Richard Seymour Exiled To The Raiders...
 

The Patriots once again decided that a Pro Bowl stars 15 minutes of fame were up yesterday when their best defensive lineman was asked to play the last year of his contract with Al Davis and the Raiders of the Lost.

The Pats receive the Raiders first round choice in 2011 which probably will turn out to be a top 5 pick which they undoubtedly will turn into 3 second round draft picks. The formula works and everyone is expendable.

a first round draft pick for a past his prime defensive lineman with injury problems in the last year of his contract.

Nice Al.

I read 2011 not 2010.

Who the hell cares about two years from now ... Randy Moss will be two years older by that time.

I know the whole line of thinking ... we want to sign Wilfork, we can't sign Seymour next year so he's basically got just one year left with us ... so why not give up that one year for a future first round pick instead of watching him leave and getting nothing.

Screw that. Win now. This hurts the chances of them going 19-0.

At some point the NFL has to consider stepping in and taking control of the team.

I agree but...the NFL doesnt exactly want to get into litigation with Mr. Davis again. The last few were pretty brutal. I want to know who the Patriots planted in that organization.

I think they see a sucker

it's hard to believe al davis was on sid gillman's staff in san diego many years ago. at one time he was a good football man. now he's just lost.:wf

He doesn't have much time left and he wants to win now.

The Raiders are now 2 full seasons removed from having the bed and breakfest guy as there O-coordinator and having the worst O-line in NFL history.

They should be much improved this year. Seymour can still play ... the Pats just dumped him because he only has a year left and they wanted to get something in return.

I'm picking the Raiders 2nd in the AFC West... and if enough of the Charger players are dating attention seeking celebs who want there name in the news .. maybe a big upset.

If the Raiders win more than 4 games this year there should be an investigation.

They will win six or seven games ... and they will do so playing a brutal non-confrence schedule.

That will be enough to get them an outright 2nd place finish in a very soft division.

The Chiefs have Matt friggin Cassell as a starter ... and the Broncos have a phony coach.

I doubt they will win 4.

Matt Cassell is Joe Montana compared to JaMarcus Russell.

My initial reaction to this trade was WTF. But after thinking about it, the trade was good for the Raiders. If they had the pick, they would waste it on some guy with 4.3 speed and hands of stone that couldn't catch a cold.:D

I'll bet you a case of tube sox they don't

2004 seems like centuries ago. It's over, Johnny.

Still hasnt reported yet. I bet Seymour is trying to work out some kind of extension or signing bonus.

Or he just pouting

Day 3 of waiting for Godot....Don't put it past Seymour to take a year off. The guy is wired differently than alot of these guys. I realize he could never make up the almost 4 million this would cost him to sit out but he is the only player of the "Camelot" years to get the better of the Patriots at the negotiating table. It wouldn't surprise me if he decided the Patriots were never going to see that draft choice as his response to being traded. This one isn't over yet.

If he doesnt report, the Pats still get the pick. The deal is done regardless of what he does. Players have zero control over their rights in the NFL and Seymours are now property of Oakland.

he's just been told he's going from a well managed winning team to an asylum run by a geriatric has been.

have some sympathy.

So what would happen here in 12 months or so when Seymour's contract would be up? I can't believe he would be allowed free agency, assuming there isn't a lock out next year. It seems bizarre that the Pats would get the pick if he never showed up in Oakland...

If he refuses to report, the Raiders retain his rights for another year.

Hello they play Denver & KC ...twice each year !!!!

They will split at best. Who else do they play that they can beat? Maybe the Jets? Maybe Cincy? Maybe at Cleveland? If they have 7 winnable games, they split 4-3 or 3-4 at best. I dont see them winning any more than that. They may only win 2, at home against Denver and KC.

Over 4 is looking pretty damn good regardless of how this game with San Diego comes out. It is amazing how well Seymour has played so far even though he will probably have his first practice with the Silver and Black next week. He might have had 3 sacks already in this game if credited with all of them he deserved.

A mirage

Because.....?


They played reasonably well....

If any other mediocre QB plays in that game last night, OAK wins by 10. I am a lifelong Raiders fan, and being an LSU homer, I am telling you that Russell sucked last night big time.:mad:

That was as good as it gets with him

Do I have to explain everything???

I've been saying Russell sucks for a long time but you can't place any blame on him for Monday night. Not even Peyton Manning would look good with two rookies starting at WR. Russell hit the big deep ball and did a good job of checking down to Zach Miller. He actually showed me more in that game then I thought he ever would.

Raiders will win 8 games this year and could even win 10 with some luck.

10?

Thats as crazy as Cannon thinking they might win just 2.

Look at their schedule. They have 2 games they can't win (@NYG, @Pit) and 3 games they are doubtful to win (@SD, @Dal, vs Phil). The rest of their schedule is quite winnable. To have won 10 games they really needed to win Monday night so 9-7 is probably more realistic at this point as their upside but they are not a terrible team and have a schedule that could produce a lot more wins than most people are suggesting.

you may as well put philly in the cant win category. They are every bit as good as the Giants.

State empolyees arent supposed to drink during the day

They were awful on Monday. The only reason they were in the game was SD had 5 turnovers. As it was the Raiders had 4 turnovers, their QB was 12 for 30 with 2 picks. How many NFL teams does that beat? They arent going to create 5 to's every week. SD was embarrasingly bad the other night and won on the road. Oakland will be lucky to win 4 games.

Scott,
I'll take under 8 with 8 being a push for any denomination you are comfortable with. Post it here or send me a PM.

Tom

I would like some of that action as well sniper. 50 dollars 8 is push and I will take the under.

Do we have a wager?

I would think that Russel would be in higher regard here if he didnt have GPK and I as his receivers. Zach Miller is obviously his favorite target, for good reason, but that offense will continue to be inept until they surround him with more legitmate playmakers. I think it's unfair to lump him into the 'he stinks' category just yet. Was he worth that high of a pick? Probably not, but there is no denying that he has talent. His potential would be through the roof if he had half decent receivers on the other end of his ROCKET arm.

History is littered with one dimensional Rocket armed QB's that lacked the necessary tools to be a succesful NFL QB i.e accuracy, descision making, ability to read, etc. The funny part is many have played for the raiders. Vince Evans? Jay Schroeder?

The book is certainly still out on Russell but there are things about him that just make you wonder. He certainly made a nice throw for the go ahead td the other night. At the same time, what NFL QB couldnt make that throw? I guess he gets points for not blowing it and he certainly showed a nice touch.

The question I have with Russell is...what are you hoping he turns into?

Shaq...