Relaxed Gesture
 

If anyone saw the terrible ride that Kent D gave him, you'd think he's been taking riding lessons from GG. Another memorable ride by Kent D...:mad:

I was wondering-- so, he took the lead, then brought him back to fourth and then what happened? (I'm very much a novice in watching the jockeys' performances in the races... would love to hear analysis...)

I think something is wrong with him anyway. 3/5 is just plain crazy for a horse who doesn't like to win. But I think he'll be layed up for a long time.

Took him to the front, ahead of the pace setter, choked him back, took him inside, got boxed in fourth. Now if that doesn't confuse a horse, not much else will. The horse is thinking, "Do you want me to be ahead? Do you want me to go? Where do I go?"..."What are you asking me to do?"
Bad, Bad Ride!

Still
 

he was not worth 3/5 and the two other horses that actually figured from a sheet standpoint ran 1 and 2.

PSH

Exactly, used 3 in the Pick 4. Gesture, Go Deputy and Silver Whistle, would've liked to have seen Silver take it, but as long as the favorite was out its good enough.

The stewards need to call him in for that ride. It was beyond bizarre. It doesn't really matter what price you thought he should be or whether you liked him, fact is after setting a moderate first half mile he stood up in the irons and strangled him back to 4th. That was definitely awful.

Very stupid ride. He had absolutely no clue what was going on.

When clueless Hank Goldberg is calling you out on your ride, you have hit rock bottom.

Congrats
 

Same here. Used the same three in the late double with the 1 and 3.
Nice double payout....

PSH:)

kent desormeaux looked like a rank amateur today with that ride. one of the worst i've ever seen by a jock, especially when kent is considered to be in the upper echelon of the sport. i can't remember the last time i've seen such an atrocious display of 'riding'!!!

Gomez on Milwaukee in the 9th race at the Spa yesterday. It was even worse, it has to be seen to be believed. You want a real laugh Zieg? Look up the chart call of that horse on equibase and Drf. It will make you laugh your ass off.

worse?!?! i don't see how any ride could be worse...all the same, off to check out the chart.

You won't believe it. Keep in mind that the chart caller only has so much room to work with and can't state everything that occurred. The chart call is funny enough but he left out lots of stuff!!!!!! One of the top ten worst rides I ever saw in my life.

wow....just read it. shame i missed the ride itself, i guess it was something to see. unless of course you were the owner/trainer or someone with him in the exacta!

Or if you had a 5 dollar pik-4 that you would have had. You really have to see this ride to get the full effect. It was even worse than the chart call. Funny thing is that noone else who ever rode her had a problem with her, horses usually don't get "rank" at that age after that many starts.
I watched it with a group of guys and many had the horse going in the pik-4. The profanity started early on, got steadily worse, and by the time they hit the stretch I was hearing words that even I don't use. You really need to see the replay to understand just how awful it was.

just now at nyra dot com to watch

some horse to come back and try at the end like that after that ride. yikes.

I disagree with you guys about Desmormeaux's ride. He probably did not particularly want to be on the lead to begin with but the pace was very slow and he ended up on the lead as they passed the stands the first time. Then when Ramazutti decided that he was going to challenge RG, Desormeaux took back and let Ramazutti go. That's exactly what he should have done. He didn't want to be head and head with Ramazutti. The clubhouse turn is certainly not too late in the race to take back.

I actually became somewhat of a Jose Valdivia fan for doing that exact thing. He was on a horse that I bet in a 1 1/2 mile race at Santa Anita. He was on the lead going into the clubhouse turn when another horse challenged him. The last thing I wanted him to do was go haed and head with that horse. Anyway, Jose knew it was a long race and he was smart enough to take back and let the other horse go. Jose ended up winning the race. The thing that won the race for him was taking back when that other horse challenged him. I think he would have been dead if he went head and head with that horse.

Anyway, it obviously was not good when Kent got in a little tight at the 3/8 pole, but what can you do. That happens sometimes when you're in traffic. I don't think he had much horse any way. I don't think he would have won the race no matter what he would have done.

i think he waited too long to pull him back, going by the finish line the first time round and then pulls him back?? hell, the horse probably thought the race was over and then wondered why they went all the way around again instead of pulling up on the back side!

Rup you can't tell a horse to go, then tell him don't go, then tell him go again unless he or she has a superior mind and lots of heart. Very few horses meet those parameters.

i thought that relaxed gesture was going along pretty well, and didn't feel that ramazutti was really pushing him.
i bet if kent had to do it all over again, he'd do it completely differently. he botched it.

Its real simple Zieg. Some riders are "feel riders". Gomez is one of those, and for a feel rider he is outstanding. Chavez has always been like that, and he was awesome at one time. Feel riders just kinda make things up as they go along. They have great instincts and some have superior reflexes and strength. They often get home horses who don't look the best but screw up a lot of rides, especially when asked to think. Kent is one of those guys.

I wasn't sure who was on him all day but that was probably the worst ride I have ever seen on a horse. I didn't bet the race, first off...

I asked the guy next to me if that was Laviolette on him. You didn't see Cornhelio JERK back Showing Up in the Secretariat, just let the friggin horse run. Guy should lose his license, or approval to ride, whatever it is

It was a horror show Scav. On pure stupidity he gets an A plus.
They should show that ride and Gomez' in the 9th race yesterday to all aspiring riders under the "don't let this happen to you" part of course instruction.

Not his first time
 

This is not the first ride Kent has screwed up her at the Spa. Did it on a Carlos Martin horse taking it to the front when it just had scored from off the pace.

That said if you watch things as closely as some do, you are going to be disappointed by everyone, it is just a matter of time. When i was at Saratoga last week even Johnny V. screwed up a couple of time once on a pletcher first time riding the rail when the rail was obviously dead and then gave a horrendous ride on the turf on another Pletcher horse on Whitney day. Obviously, Johnny V. screws up less than almost anyone else but it still happens. That said if you got bucks on a horse and the rider screws up it bugs the hell out of you, especially if you believe that horse would have won with a normal ride.

Jockey are human and make mistakes. It is obvious that some riders make much less of these mistakes (PRADO, JOHNNY V., JULIAN L.) than others do.

Imagine watching these jocks on a day to day basis at a minor league track... it makes you appreciate the top ones even more.

PSH

Exactly how I felt.

I dont see how anyone can defend the way that moron rode Relaxed Gesture. He rode him like a harness horse. You cant send a horse to the front, be able to go slow fractions and reign him back off a slow pace. Did he really think the horses in front of him were going to back up and he was going to go by?

Not going to say he was worth 3/5 and its not like it cost me any kind of score, but its a frustrating way to be out of pick and double tickets.

I was appalled that Kent D, for the 2nd Saturday in a row, took a heavy favorite that I keyed in many picks and doubles off the board.

If Swirling Solomon had won the last race at Saratoga, theres no telling what I would have done. I was rooting so hard for anybody to beat this horse, you would have actually thought I had money on the race.

worst ride of the day...only had Go Deputy in that race as part of my pick 4 only to lose with EC singled in the last leg. Salty about not having win $$ on Go Deputy...absolute gift at 6-1.

Any idea what your pick 4 was coming back with EC?

I took a huge shot with Rich in Spirit in the Bev D, had she won I would have been debt free. Used her over and under Film Maker in the exacta. Those are the only 2 I played in there.

it's was like 548 or something like that.

would have been nice...especially with only $12 in the ticket...

My phone went dead yesterday bro...

Kev- Have to get cleaned up and heading down to my Moms for a visit, then making what will be real entertainment....my first golf outing of the year, with my brother who is playing to a 2 handicap right now. I'll call you on the way down.

no big deal...one sore pup this morning. Life of a tree trimmer I guess. I was so tired I almost forgot to watch the races....lol

F that job...did that crap when Isabel came through in 2003 and took out 750+ trees at my golf course....if I NEVER have a chainsaw in my hand again, it will be just fine.