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The Indomitable DrugS 08-31-2009 06:34 PM

Mountaineer tonight highlights
 
Race #4 feature a field of nine horses. Eight of which have run before. The top last out Beyer in the field is a 5. The first timer won't have to be much.


Race #7 features 12-year-old Coconut Willy and his trainer who is 0-for-82 over the last 3 years.

A son of Kingmambo, Coconut Willy debuted in a MSW at Santa Anita in April of 2000 for Ron Ellis. He was bet to 2/1 odds. Tiznow also debuted in that same race. He was 13/1 and finished behind Coconut Willy.


Race #8 features a 2/5 morning line favorite in Brave Nation. He's a West Virgina bred son of Indian Charlie trying WV breds for the first time. With the show minimum at $2.20 in the state of WV .. expect the bridgejumpers.


Race #9 features Deadly Dealer first off of the claim for the shady Scooter Davis. Deadly Dealer was once 2/1 second choice to Curlin in the Arkansas Derby. And 9/5 favorite in the Grade 2 Woody Stephens.

Scooter Davis is 47% first off the claim and maybe his sauce is strong enough to wake him up. He claimed him for 5K last time out.

tector 08-31-2009 06:50 PM

Great post. Seriously--some interesting stuff.

steve 08-31-2009 07:04 PM

the show must go on....

Indian Charlie 08-31-2009 07:25 PM

There is a Ky bred and a Fl bred in the race. The rest are Wva.

That's the 8th race.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-31-2009 07:40 PM

The Fla bred and KY bred are somehow accredited WVA breds.

Maybe Cannon Shell can gives us an explanation on how that works.

philcski 08-31-2009 09:00 PM

Mountaineer
8
Pool: $19,162
Win Odds Win Pool Place Pool Show Pool
1 30 444 212 728
2 35 399 257 583
3 30 509 291 767
4 14 1,007 497 1,055
5 9 1,519 604 1,528
6 1/9 14,191 5,216 201,504
7 60 223 75 321
8 17 866 547 911

last time there was a negative show pool this big in WV they unfairly DQ'd the horse so they wouldn't have to pay it off... MNR just lost about $15k on the race.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-31-2009 09:10 PM

yeah, the horse paid $2.20 to win $2.20 to place and $2.20 to show.

Obviously a gigantic mismatch on paper.

Normally I would root for the bridgejump horse to lose ... but I'd rather see Mountaineer have to take it in the shorts than see a bunch of hundred dollar show payoffs.

philcski 08-31-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
yeah, the horse paid $2.20 to win $2.20 to place and $2.20 to show.

Obviously a gigantic mismatch on paper.

Normally I would root for the bridgejump horse to lose ... but I'd rather see Mountaineer have to take it in the shorts than see a bunch of hundred dollar show payoffs.

I like Deadly Dealer in the next race, even though I haven't even looked at the form. I could never bet a horse at even money named John's Burger. Seriously... the Jockey Club let that one through???

VOL JACK 08-31-2009 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I like Deadly Dealer in the next race, even though I haven't even looked at the form. I could never bet a horse at even money named John's Burger. Seriously... the Jockey Club let that one through???

THey let Emirates to Dubai slide.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-31-2009 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I like Deadly Dealer in the next race, even though I haven't even looked at the form. I could never bet a horse at even money named John's Burger. Seriously... the Jockey Club let that one through???

John's Burger is dropping from just missing a length in an open stake to 5K starter.

philcski 08-31-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
John's Burger is dropping from just missing a length in an open stake to 5K starter.

He was tasty tonight.

They brought the cheese on that one tonight.

He had some mustard out there tonight.

If he doesn't run well they'll ship him to Turkey and he'll end up as John's Burger.

Etc Etc Etc

The Indomitable DrugS 08-31-2009 09:28 PM

Yeah .. not a great name

How about Deadly Dealer? That was a great 2nd at 6/1. That 47% first off of the claim stat will drop - but Scooter's chemicals are really good.

GPK 08-31-2009 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
He was tasty tonight.

They brought the cheese on that one tonight.

He had some mustard out there tonight.

If he doesn't run well they'll ship him to Turkey and he'll end up as John's Burger.

Etc Etc Etc

In the words of Scavs...stop it.

VOL JACK 08-31-2009 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
He was tasty tonight.

They brought the cheese on that one tonight.

He had some mustard out there tonight.

If he doesn't run well they'll ship him to Turkey and he'll end up as John's Burger.

Etc Etc Etc

I was missing the Horse as food reference... I was thinking along the Advertising angle.:zz:

Scav 08-31-2009 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
yeah, the horse paid $2.20 to win $2.20 to place and $2.20 to show.

Obviously a gigantic mismatch on paper.

Normally I would root for the bridgejump horse to lose ... but I'd rather see Mountaineer have to take it in the shorts than see a bunch of hundred dollar show payoffs.

Because of Nicole's Dream ridiculous DQ or other reasons?

The Indomitable DrugS 08-31-2009 09:50 PM

Both.

philcski 08-31-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
In the words of Scavs...stop it.

I hit 3 balls out of bounds and 3 in the water yesterday and shot 74. Hit one out of bounds off the tee on par 5's and made par (so eagles if I didn't) TWICE!! My shoulder is finally almost healed and I've been playing a lot.

Cannon Shell 08-31-2009 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
The Fla bred and KY bred are somehow accredited WVA breds.

Maybe Cannon Shell can gives us an explanation on how that works.

Some states like Delaware make you accredited if you spend 90 consecutive days there before Jan of your two year old year. I dont know about WV but they may have a similar program.

freddymo 09-01-2009 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I hit 3 balls out of bounds and 3 in the water yesterday and shot 74. Hit one out of bounds off the tee on par 5's and made par (so eagles if I didn't) TWICE!! My shoulder is finally almost healed and I've been playing a lot.


3 for 5 on the par 5 very nice. that is a super round of golf.. Was it an executive course .. Just kidding.

GPK 09-01-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
I hit 3 balls out of bounds and 3 in the water yesterday and shot 74. Hit one out of bounds off the tee on par 5's and made par (so eagles if I didn't) TWICE!! My shoulder is finally almost healed and I've been playing a lot.

Thats pretty strong bro. I played in a pro-am a few weeks ago and did something I have never done in my life. I had more putts than shots. 40 putts and 39 shots. I hit 14 out of 18 greens and 11 out of 12 fairways. I had back to back 4 putts:eek: Nothing more fun in golf than having a 20 footer for eagle on a par 5 and walking off the green with a bogey:o

freddymo 09-01-2009 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Thats pretty strong bro. I played in a pro-am a few weeks ago and did something I have never done in my life. I had more putts than shots. 40 putts and 39 shots. I hit 14 out of 18 greens and 11 out of 12 fairways. I had back to back 4 putts:eek: Nothing more fun in golf than having a 20 footer for eagle on a par 5 and walking off the green with a bogey:o

That windmill can be a bitch to time

philcski 09-01-2009 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
3 for 5 on the par 5 very nice. that is a super round of golf.. Was it an executive course .. Just kidding.

LOL, Marriott Griffin Gate in Lex which is pretty easy but has a ton of out of bounds and I couldn't keep my driver in the fairway. 3 of the par 5's are kind of a joke. First hole is 440 yards downwind so a par 5 in name only.

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Originally Posted by GPK
Thats pretty strong bro. I played in a pro-am a few weeks ago and did something I have never done in my life. I had more putts than shots. 40 putts and 39 shots. I hit 14 out of 18 greens and 11 out of 12 fairways. I had back to back 4 putts:eek: Nothing more fun in golf than having a 20 footer for eagle on a par 5 and walking off the green with a bogey:o

What course? That's some excellent ballstriking.

Cannon Shell 09-01-2009 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
That windmill can be a bitch to time

:tro:

GPK 09-01-2009 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski
LOL, Marriott Griffin Gate in Lex which is pretty easy but has a ton of out of bounds and I couldn't keep my driver in the fairway. 3 of the par 5's are kind of a joke. First hole is 440 yards downwind so a par 5 in name only.



What course? That's some excellent ballstriking.

Hanging Rock in Salem, VA. Greens are an absolute b*tch. 6 par 3's, I won 3 of the closest to the pins...and the birdie putts never sniffed the hole.:wf

docicu3 09-01-2009 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Thats pretty strong bro. I played in a pro-am a few weeks ago and did something I have never done in my life. I had more putts than shots. 40 putts and 39 shots. I hit 14 out of 18 greens and 11 out of 12 fairways. I had back to back 4 putts:eek: Nothing more fun in golf than having a 20 footer for eagle on a par 5 and walking off the green with a bogey:o


:zz: you have to kidding. Greens running 15 on the meter?

Just shows you how evil this game is......

GPK 09-01-2009 09:24 AM

Not kidding at all doc..just very grainy greens. Very very slow uphill and incredibly fast downhill.


Phil, go to www.frenchlickresort.com and check out the Pete Dye Course. A buddy of mine qualified for the PGA National Club Pro Championship next July that is gonna be held at this course. Look at the yardage and slope from the back tees:zz: :zz: Look at the scorecard...300 yard par 3:wf :wf

philcski 09-01-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Not kidding at all doc..just very grainy greens. Very very slow uphill and incredibly fast downhill.


Phil, go to www.frenchlickresort.com and check out the Pete Dye Course. A buddy of mine qualified for the PGA National Club Pro Championship next July that is gonna be held at this course. Look at the yardage and slope from the back tees:zz: :zz: Look at the scoredcard...300 yard par 3:wf :wf

What a joke, that isn't golf. I've been meaning to play the Donald Ross course there for a while. It's about 2 hours from here...

docicu3 09-01-2009 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Not kidding at all doc..just very grainy greens. Very very slow uphill and incredibly fast downhill.


Phil, go to www.frenchlickresort.com and check out the Pete Dye Course. A buddy of mine qualified for the PGA National Club Pro Championship next July that is gonna be held at this course. Look at the yardage and slope from the back tees:zz: :zz: Look at the scoredcard...300 yard par 3:wf :wf

But doesn't a 300 yd par 3 officially eliminate the "long iron" from the game. So if your not hitting a wood off the tee your not getting 2 putts for par. When the PGA starts playing 300 yd Par 3's it will be a dark day for the game.

Antitrust32 09-01-2009 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
Not kidding at all doc..just very grainy greens. Very very slow uphill and incredibly fast downhill.


Phil, go to www.frenchlickresort.com and check out the Pete Dye Course. A buddy of mine qualified for the PGA National Club Pro Championship next July that is gonna be held at this course. Look at the yardage and slope from the back tees:zz: :zz: Look at the scorecard...300 yard par 3:wf :wf


I would LOVE to play that course and wouldnt even care if it took me 118 strokes from white tees to finish.. so beautiful!

rpncaine 09-01-2009 02:23 PM

The Donald Ross course is incredible. Played there on Nov. 1st about 3 years ago. Weather was 70 degrees and perfect. Maybe 10 people on the course so we played at our own pace and just savored the moment. One of the highlights of my golf career (I'm a hacker happy to break 95). Couldn't tell you what I shot that day, really didn't care.


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