More Big Brother?
 

Um I don't think so whether it be a democratic president or republican

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10320096-38.html

Forget it. Why bother. Dissent is out now that Obama is in charge. Just roll over and let the govt take care of us.

really, that tactic is an equal one from both sides...remember 'you're either with us or against us'? if you spoke out, your patriotism was in question.

the shoe is on the other foot, but the message is pretty much the same.

I suppose.

The future Obamafied US =
"country of the mediocre who are dependant on a corrupt govt* to do anything"

*The Secretary of States description

i wonder how we'll celebrate fourth of july next year. be interesting if anyone calls it independence day.

july 5th -Dependence day

of course it is. thats why if you are a republican or a democrat, you are a moron. sure they'll let you fight about gays,guns, abortion and all the crap that doesn't amount to much. but in the end the government is the government. they'll take your money, freedom and privacy and thats a bi-partisan fact.....lol
so when i hear or read about someone talking about one side or the other. i have to laugh because both sides talk out of both sides of their mouths. hoping they say something the idiots on their side wants to hear.

lol:rolleyes: then move elsewhere

I see by your avatar you have a new hero!:D

Dellinger called dibs on him first...

Seriously though..have you ever seen such an angry looking dude?

Wait, did I miss the posts where you had used up your rational thinking quota for the day before this post?

Jeez.

Well, I guess those things don't count for much unless maybe people happen to be:

1) gay
or
2) a woman of reproductive age
or
3) a gunowner

But there are only a few million people that fall into any of those categories living in this country, so....yeah....lets get back to issues that matter.....like uninformed, unproductive government bashing.

Yeah the liberals never engaged in Govt bashing the last 8 years....

The govt not only deserves bashing, but requires it to keep it on the right path.

sub the word 'programmes' for 'bashing' and you're on to something......



uninformed, unproductive government programmes even sounds right!

Obviously there is no doubt that the people in government (of all parties) often deserve criticism, and perhaps sometimes even abuse.
But the constant harping on the idea by conservatives and libertarians that the federal government always makes things worse and hasn't ever fixed anything is.....well.....as tiresome as it is completely incorrect.

I dont think anyone says that the Federal govt is always wrong or makes things worse. Just most of the time.

boats need anchors. society's need conservatives.

that's not an insult. i think the conservative movement has historically served an important role in our country and other's.

it's also why i worry about the intellectual bankruptcy of conservative idea's at the moment. they've thrown out the whitaker chamber's and william f. buckley's and replaced them with sarah palin and joe the plumber.

liberals should worry about this as much as mainstream republican's. everyone needs a worthy adversary to keep them sharp. the chances that we go far astray are higher when the only argument against your idea's come from beauty queens and high school dropouts. you get soft.

Lol


Good to see BO take the do-nothing cons behind the wood shed with some lines in that speech earlier tonight.


Shame they always have to drag cons into the future..........

"You lie! That wasn't laugh out loud funny. Now shut the f.uck up!"

I'm against the Gov't being involved in the internet, and that's because there will always be someone wanting to get the Gov't to take away content they find objectionable. Where were these(Conservative) personal privacy proponents when Bush signed the Conservative-Sponsored internet gambling bill? They believe in limited Gov't? WTF was that? G Damn hypocrites.

There's always Joe Wilson.

:zz: No shortage of blatently, blindly stupid in this recession.

Yes because the dems have never booed a republican prez.

GFY.

1) That had nothing to do with booing - please keep up.

2) You learned a new insult phrase! Good for you! :tro:

It wasn't very classy to do what Wilson did. That being said, I do feel the best argument against the President's speech is that he did not mention any efforts to curtail illegal immigration. Even if he says they aren't going to be insured, they're still going to have to be taken care of in the E.R. of our hospitals. If we all agree that Medical care is expensive, then curtailing illegal immigration has to be a big part of any effort to improve the medical care for Americans. That's just a simple reality that progressives need to stop ignoring. Yes, we all want a better world, but Americans should not have to be punished because people of other cultures see fit to irresponsibly breed beyond their means.