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hoovesupsideyourhead 08-27-2009 07:56 AM
Wet Travers Day
 
looks like ts danny will impact the going on travers day..fn shame ..

looks like a cat 1 in the offing..

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical...y.html#a_topad

RockHardTen1985 08-27-2009 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
looks like ts danny will impact the going on travers day..fn shame ..

looks like a cat 1 in the offing..

http://www.wunderground.com/tropical...y.html#a_topad
Omg the weather has changed drasticley since I last checked. Last night at 1am, it was perfect Friday and Saturday 40% chance of showers. This is crazy.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-27-2009 08:04 AM
i hope so. you dont want any of it..

RockHardTen1985 08-27-2009 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
i hope so. you dont want any of it..
I changed my quote, lol. I just checked the weather again.

Indian Charlie 08-27-2009 10:28 AM
Maybe QR will scratch out of the Travers and go to the Woodward.

RockHardTen1985 08-27-2009 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Maybe QR will scratch out of the Travers and go to the Woodward.

Hold Me Back should really like a off track.

Gander 08-27-2009 11:55 AM
Last weekend (especially for Alabama Day) we had an even worse forecast and it ended up being okay. I wouldnt cancel your plans just yet.

Danzig 08-27-2009 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Hold Me Back should really like a off track.
why?

tector 08-27-2009 12:45 PM
The storm may have nothing to do with it.

Usually, if you are as away from the storm track as Saratoga is likely to be, you get better weather--the outflow form the storm produces fair conditions. But looks like there is some crap coming form the west.

http://www.wunderground.com/ndfdimag...sg=3&region=ne

Bummer.

RockHardTen1985 08-27-2009 12:50 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig
why?

420 tomlinson... second highest in the race behind only Charitable Man. I think a few people think he is a sneaky longshot and rain can only help him.

cakes44 08-27-2009 01:09 PM
I'd really rather go by the race he already ran in the slop at 1 1/4 miles than his Tomlinson #.

RockHardTen1985 08-27-2009 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by cakes44
I'd really rather go by the race he already ran in the slop at 1 1/4 miles than his Tomlinson #.
Cakes, how can you possibly go by that? Its a total toss, what the hell was Kent D doing? Premature move of the year.

boswd 08-27-2009 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Gander
Last weekend (especially for Alabama Day) we had an even worse forecast and it ended up being okay. I wouldnt cancel your plans just yet.

yeah, from what I've been reading Danny isn't supposed to hit the NorthEast until Saturday Evening into Sunday, Traver's should be safe from him

There is supposed to be some showers early on Saturday morning but cloudy during the afternoon. Cold too, low to mid 60's so bringa sweatshirt.

but yeah the Traver's should be ok.

randallscott35 08-27-2009 01:28 PM
LOL, Hold Me Back really liked that Off track at the Derby. Tomlinsons aren't all they are cracked up to be.

RockHardTen1985 08-27-2009 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by randallscott35
LOL, Hold Me Back really liked that Off track at the Derby. Tomlinsons aren't all they are cracked up to be.

Anyone who is using the derby to determine if Hold Me back can handle dirt/slop does not have a clue about handicapping. It was one of the biggest premature moves I HAVE EVER SAW.

randallscott35 08-27-2009 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Anyone who is using the derby to determine if Hold Me back can handle dirt/slop does not have a clue about handicapping. It was one of the biggest premature moves I HAVE EVER SAW.
Got it.

Bigsmc 08-27-2009 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Anyone who is using the derby to determine if Hold Me back can handle dirt/slop does not have a clue about handicapping. It was one of the biggest premature moves I HAVE EVER SAW.
Anyone that cites a Tomilinson number as his sole reason for moving a horse up in slop (three days before the race is run) has less of a clue about handicapping.

Gander 08-27-2009 02:01 PM
I am ashamed to admit this but I bet Hold Me Back in the Derby...never again. The horse is too slow for horses like this. Hes got no appeal whatsoever in this race. I think hes the easiest throw out of them all. By far the slowest horse in this race with not one good angle I can see to make him worthy of a stab.

cakes44 08-27-2009 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Gander
I am ashamed to admit this but I bet Hold Me Back in the Derby...never again. The horse is too slow for horses like this. Hes got no appeal whatsoever in this race. I think hes the easiest throw out of them all. By far the slowest horse in this race with not one good angle I can see to make him worthy of a stab.
YOU HAVE NO CLUE ABOUT HANDICAPPING!

RockHardTen1985 08-27-2009 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Anyone that cites a Tomilinson number as his sole reason for moving a horse up in slop (three days before the race is run) has less of a clue about handicapping.
Its not the sole reasson... I said he should like the slop, she asked why and I said why.

cakes44 08-27-2009 02:53 PM
Exactly what other reason would you have for why the horse "should really like an off track" then?

RockHardTen1985 08-27-2009 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cakes44
Exactly what other reason would you have for why the horse "should really like an off track" then?

His Derby was not nearly as bad as anyone thinks... AT LEAST HE RAN.... It was premature but he made a huge MOVE. Im not even touting him, but for people to toss him cause of the Derby is A HUGE MISTAKE.
Maybe Im totally wrong, FatMan, Im sure can comment on his Derby trip.

Gander 08-27-2009 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Its not the sole reasson... I said he should like the slop, she asked why and I said why.
I dont think he has any chance to even finish 3rd if all 7 go. But I would bet the horse if you really think you have an angle. Although I doubt very much the track will be anything close to sloppy. Do you like him at all if its fast?
Dont let what you read on a message board keep you from making a bet on a certain horse.

I think you have a much better chance of cashing a ticket on your guy Quality Road. He will at least be the prominent throughout the race.

A horse in here who I have never bet or been a fan of is very interesting and appealing to me- Charitable Man. For once, you are going to get a fair price on him and the goal all along was to win this race. From what I have heard he is doing better than ever and in my opinion at around 5/1, hes the best value in the race.

hockey2315 08-27-2009 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Gander
I dont think he has any chance to even finish 3rd if all 7 go. But I would bet the horse if you really think you have an angle. Although I doubt very much the track will be anything close to sloppy. Do you like him at all if its fast?
Dont let what you read on a message board keep you from making a bet on a certain horse.

I think you have a much better chance of cashing a ticket on your guy Quality Road. He will at least be the prominent throughout the race.

A horse in here who I have never bet or been a fan of is very interesting and appealing to me- Charitable Man. For once, you are going to get a fair price on him and the goal all along was to win this race. From what I have heard he is doing better than ever and in my opinion at around 5/1, hes the best value in the race.
five to one?!

RockHardTen1985 08-27-2009 03:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gander
I dont think he has any chance to even finish 3rd if all 7 go. But I would bet the horse if you really think you have an angle. Although I doubt very much the track will be anything close to sloppy. Do you like him at all if its fast?
Dont let what you read on a message board keep you from making a bet on a certain horse.

I think you have a much better chance of cashing a ticket on your guy Quality Road. He will at least be the prominent throughout the race.

A horse in here who I have never bet or been a fan of is very interesting and appealing to me- Charitable Man. For once, you are going to get a fair price on him and the goal all along was to win this race. From what I have heard he is doing better than ever and in my opinion at around 5/1, hes the best value in the race.
My pick 4 will mostly lean on QR, I will use WR a little, a backup very thin with the 1.
If you like CM, dont you have to like WR?

RockHardTen1985 08-27-2009 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hockey2315
five to one?!
Who are you?
Are you that famous writer?

Gander 08-27-2009 03:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockey2315
five to one?!
What do you think hes going to be? Higher? I hope so.

Gander 08-27-2009 03:15 PM
[quote=RockHardTen1985]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gander
I dont think he has any chance to even finish 3rd if all 7 go. But I would bet the horse if you really think you have an angle. Although I doubt very much the track will be anything close to sloppy. Do you like him at all if its fast?
Dont let what you read on a message board keep you from making a bet on a certain horse.

I think you have a much better chance of cashing a ticket on your guy Quality Road. He will at least be the prominent throughout the race.

A horse in here who I have never bet or been a fan of is very interesting and appealing to me- Charitable Man. For once, you are going to get a fair price on him and the goal all along was to win this race. From what I have heard he is doing better than ever and in my opinion at around 5/1, hes the best value in the race.[/QUOTE

My pick 4 will mostly lean on QR, I will use WR a little, a backup very thin with the 1.
If you like CM, dont you have to like WR?
Yup, they pretty much ran the same race last time. Wouldnt be surprised if either wins. Like CM better though.

RockHardTen1985 08-27-2009 03:17 PM
[quote=Gander]
Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Yup, they pretty much ran the same race last time. Wouldnt be surprised if either wins. Like CM better though.

I love QR and have talked him up big time. If he does not get it done, I will really need the Warrior.

parsixfarms 08-27-2009 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Cakes, how can you possibly go by that? Its a total toss, what the hell was Kent D doing? Premature move of the year.
No, that would be Kent D's ride on Bella Attrice yesterday.

letswastemoney 08-27-2009 04:42 PM
Mine That Bird would have loved this

hurricanefrank 08-27-2009 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Maybe QR will scratch out of the Travers and go to the Woodward.
yes then he can finish second as opposed to off the board

Hickory Hill Hoff 08-27-2009 08:06 PM
Kent D.....
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by parsixfarms
No, that would be Kent D's ride on Bella Attrice yesterday.
He had a wonderful ride aboard Double Domino today too! :rolleyes: in fact there's also his great rides aboard Miss Keller & Convocation......really helped me out a lot! :mad:

skippy3481 08-28-2009 09:43 AM
Kent is the guy that always beats me. If i bet him he rides like a a dumbass, if i don't bet him he wins.

Danzig 08-28-2009 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Danzig
why?

the reason i asked why on the off track is that i honestly don't know of any track that hold me back likes! he may end up being a one hit wonder, much like charitable man.
if any horse would deal with an off track, it would be summer bird-he's run well on them twice. pletcher absolutely doesn't want rain for his horse. i wouldn't be surprised if quality road scratched if the weather gets bad.

hockey2315 08-28-2009 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Gander
What do you think hes going to be? Higher? I hope so.
He'll be close to double that unless the barn (I'm assuming) goes psycho on him like they did last time.

2MinsToPost 08-28-2009 12:23 PM
How should we cap tonight for tomorrows card -

wet fast, muddy, sloppy?

Gander 08-28-2009 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
How should we cap tonight for tomorrows card -

wet fast, muddy, sloppy?
Muddy or sloppy. Suppose to get really heavy rain overnight into tomorrow morning, tailing off by about 1-2 pm, but by then the damage will be done.

2MinsToPost 08-28-2009 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Gander
Muddy or sloppy. Suppose to get really heavy rain overnight into tomorrow morning, tailing off by about 1-2 pm, but by then the damage will be done.
Thanks that really sucks for the big day at The Spa and all the people that look forward to this day. Saved up a couple hundred bucks to play some pick 4's but may back off if there are considerble scratches. I am no fan of playin the ponies when it gets crazy wet, shucks I ain't all that good when its dry:zz:

RockHardTen1985 08-28-2009 05:37 PM
Turf Saturday?
 
I am in Saratoga now and the rain has started, not hard yet though.
Working on tomorrow's card, what is likely for turf racing? Will they try keeping the 4th, 6th and 9th on? Im guessing the 1st has to come off, the forcast has been different all week, yesterday it was 80% chance of rain, now its 60%, but it has def. already started.


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