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The Indomitable DrugS 08-20-2009 02:55 PM

Mine That Bird
 
The owners said on TVG that he was leaning towards not running in the Travers.

Did anyone else see the guy? He was wearing a Cowboy hat and what looked like a Raiders offensive lineman football jersey.

VOL JACK 08-20-2009 03:00 PM

He talks like he has been kicked in the head by those quarter horses too many times.

I dont put any stock into anything the guy says.
After he said his A.P. Indy maiden had a shot to win the preakness.

RockHardTen1985 08-20-2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
The owners said on TVG that he was leaning towards not running in the Travers.

Did anyone else see the guy? He was wearing a Cowboy hat and what looked like a Raiders offensive lineman football jersey.


I hope he runs, but will he make any impact? I may be wrong, but I think Quality Road has as much talent as any top 3yr old we have had recently. I hope its a big field, and I pray Rachel runs to improve the odds on QR.

The Indomitable DrugS 08-20-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK
He talks like he has been kicked in the head by those quarter horses too many times.

I dont put any stock into anything the guy says.
After he said his A.P. Indy maiden had a shot to win the preakness.

He is one funny looking dude.

declansharbor 08-20-2009 03:12 PM

Possible to PA Derby. WHy not? Why run against QUality Road when you can collect a nice check down here against the B team?

RockHardTen1985 08-20-2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Possible to PA Derby. WHy not? Why run against QUality Road when you can collect a nice check down here against the B team?

Why not run against him? He is her only legit competition right now. I feel strong that he would defeat her. Zenyatta is more then likely not coming to race her, so why not have the big showdown next Saturday? If they both go next Saturday, when is the last time we have had a showdown like this?
Dare I say, Ten Most Wanted vs Peace Rules?

booner 08-20-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Why not run against him? He is her only legit competition right now. I feel strong that he would defeat her. Zenyatta is more then likely not coming to race her, so why not have the big showdown next Saturday? If they both go next Saturday, when is the last time we have had a showdown like this?
Dare I say, Ten Most Wanted vs Peace Rules?

Surely you are talking about Quality Road.

MTB vs. RA is not a showdown.

RockHardTen1985 08-20-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by booner
Surely you are talking about Quality Road.

MTB vs. RA is not a showdown.

Of course I am talking about Quality Road. MTB is a plodder IMO. Who had favorable set up's in his wins. He will win again, because he is a gelding and has handled poly, but he's not in QR's league.

Gander 08-20-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Why not run against him? He is her only legit competition right now. I feel strong that he would defeat her. Zenyatta is more then likely not coming to race her, so why not have the big showdown next Saturday? If they both go next Saturday, when is the last time we have had a showdown like this?
Dare I say, Ten Most Wanted vs Peace Rules?

LOL, I hope you are kidding. A showdown?

Quality Road vs Rachel would dwarf this. They're both a zip code better than either Ten Most and Peace Rules. Those 2 have already been forgotten and for the record, it was hardly a showdown.

declansharbor 08-20-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Of course I am talking about Quality Road. MTB is a plodder IMO. Who had favorable set up's in his wins. He will win again, because he is a gelding and has handled poly, but he's not in QR's league.

Who's the shim you are talking about. Guy? Girl? Which is it?

What I said was, why run against QR and other better competition in the Travers when you can cash an easier check, if he's good enough, in the PA Derby?

RockHardTen1985 08-20-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gander
LOL, I hope you are kidding. A showdown?

Quality Road vs Rachel would dwarf this. They're both a zip code better than either Ten Most and Peace Rules. Those 2 have already been forgotten and for the record, it was hardly a showdown.

omg, Gander chill out. I have to assume you are the only one who did not realize I was just messing around. LOL. Come on man....

Gander 08-20-2009 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
omg, Gander chill out. I have to assume you are the only one who did not realize I was just messing around. LOL. Come on man....

Okay, it was a joke. Good one.

I wouldnt mind seeing Rachel run in the Woodward either. Against the very freaky Cool Coal Man, when in the mood, is brilliant.

TouchOfGrey 08-20-2009 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
The owners said on TVG that he was leaning towards not running in the Travers.

Despite reports, Mine That Bird trainer says horse won't run in Pennsylvania Derby

Antitrust32 08-20-2009 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I hope he runs, but will he make any impact? I may be wrong, but I think Quality Road has as much talent as any top 3yr old we have had recently. I hope its a big field, and I pray Rachel runs to improve the odds on QR.


you better hope Rachel doesnt run or you will lose your money. IF she didnt win the race over Quality Road.. they would burn each other out and a closer would win.

booner 08-20-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Of course I am talking about Quality Road. MTB is a plodder IMO. Who had favorable set up's in his wins. He will win again, because he is a gelding and has handled poly, but he's not in QR's league.


Just wanted to check. Your post sounded a lot like you were referring to MTB.

RockHardTen1985 08-20-2009 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
you better hope Rachel doesnt run or you will lose your money. IF she didnt win the race over Quality Road.. they would burn each other out and a closer would win.


QR does not need the lead, Warriors Reward is my price play.

Monarchos1 08-20-2009 04:44 PM

I saw the interview and the amazing thing is that TVG's talking head - Mike Joyce - didn't even acknowledge the owner's comments. He wouldn't know a story if one fell on him. Allen did say that MTB would likely return to New Mexico and begin BC preparations. Since they have committed to parading him before the All American Derby, I think it's reasonable to believe that the PA Derby is not being considered.

letswastemoney 08-20-2009 04:51 PM

this is all very confusing :confused: :confused:

run him somewhere (as long as he's okay)

Bobby Fischer 08-20-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
this is all very confusing :confused: :confused:

cosign

chucklestheclown 08-20-2009 11:34 PM

What is this thread about?

RockHardTen1985 08-20-2009 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
What is this thread about?

It was about Mine that Bird, but I brought QR into it because I think he's one of the top 3 year olds in the last 3-5 years. I beleive he is as good as anything we have had.

Gander 08-21-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
It was about Mine that Bird, but I brought QR into it because I think he's one of the top 3 year olds in the last 3-5 years. I beleive he is as good as anything we have had.

I agree, with the exception of Rachel, who I think is not only more talented than QR, but obviously at this point more seasoned. I think we are very lucky to have both of these 3 year olds in training, not to mention a good possibility for a showdown in 8 days.

I know QR didnt get the chance to win races that really matter, but he still has time to win the Travers, Jockey Club and maybe a shot at the BC.
To me he is as good as any 3 year old colt since Point Given.

Rachel is in her own sport.

slotdirt 08-21-2009 08:30 AM

I thought I read Mine that Bird had some kind of minor procedure done and that was the reason he wouldn't run in the Travers? My mind could be escaping me, of course.

Gander 08-21-2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I thought I read Mine that Bird had some kind of minor procedure done and that was the reason he wouldn't run in the Travers? My mind could be escaping me, of course.

He did and it went very well. It was done earlier this week in Long Island and hes already back at Saratoga. It was an operation to correct a breathing problem due to his epiglottis getting in the way. I dont think he will resume training untl this weekend, but the last I heard he is still trying to make the Travers.

boswd 08-21-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Gander
He did and it went very well. It was done earlier this week in Long Island and hes already back at Saratoga. It was an operation to correct a breathing problem due to his epiglottis getting in the way. I dont think he will resume training untl this weekend, but the last I heard he is still trying to make the Travers.


Light gallups this morning thru the weekend and Workout on Monday or Tuesday.
Chip is just being a extra cautious, I guess he spoke with D. Wayne and Pheltcher and asked how this type of procedure plays out, and they both reassured that it is no big deal at all, so his mind is a little more at ease. Just keeping an eye to make sure no infection sink in and he should be a go.

Coach Pants 08-21-2009 11:37 AM

An off the board finish in the Travers is better than an off the board finish in the Pennsylvania Quaker Oats Challenge.

cakes44 08-21-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
What is this thread about?

This thread is about Peace Rules vs Quality Road now. I'll take Peace Rules by the way. That horse was a gamer.

Scav 08-21-2009 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cakes44
This thread is about Peace Rules vs Quality Road now. I'll take Peace Rules by the way. That horse was a gamer.

I love the internet

kgar311 08-21-2009 02:37 PM

MTB is a 100% GO for the Travers. Confirmed by Chipper

RockHardTen1985 08-21-2009 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgar311
MTB is a 100% GO for the Travers. Confirmed by Chipper

I hope both birds run and RA. Its the only way I get my price on QR.

Coach Pants 08-21-2009 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I hope both birds run and RA. Its the only way I get my price on QR.

I don't think Summer Turd will help the price of QR.

chucklestheclown 08-21-2009 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kgar311
MTB is a 100% GO for the Travers. Confirmed by Chipper

Allen said on TVG they'll decide Monday night and announce something Tuesday morning.

RockHardTen1985 08-21-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I don't think Summer Turd will help the price of QR.

LOL I agree he is more Turd then horse, but Serling was talking him up a bit the other day. Whoever he likes get's bet.

kgar311 08-21-2009 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
Allen said on TVG they'll decide Monday night and announce something Tuesday morning.

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories...storyID=833716

Absolutely a go

Travis Stone 08-21-2009 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

Decision is going to be made on Monday.

kgar311 08-21-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Decision is going to be made on Monday.


Absolutely a go

chucklestheclown 08-21-2009 03:53 PM

ROTFLMAO.
CAN YOU READ???
:zz:

johnny pinwheel 08-22-2009 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booner
Surely you are talking about Quality Road.

MTB vs. RA is not a showdown.

how fast people forget. she was life and death at the wire in the preakness. and the travers is another 1/16. it was the only race thats been close for her this year. i hope he runs, and rachel too, that procedure usually moves horses up. with quality road in there, the pace will be legit if not quick. thats all this horse needs. a mile and a quarter and targets tiring out. his last two trips were terrible, moved up prematuraly in both. if all these horses run, he will be the FORGOTTEN ONE. its got value written all over it. i figured he would lose at that bullring in west virginia(i was hoping). if he does run the price just went up. i'll be laughing all the way to the window after. his last race at this distance was an absolute laugher. if he does enter this guy talking just added a couple more points on the board. which is fine by me.

RockHardTen1985 08-22-2009 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
how fast people forget. she was life and death at the wire in the preakness. and the travers is another 1/16. it was the only race thats been close for her this year. i hope he runs, and rachel too, that procedure usually moves horses up. with quality road in there, the pace will be legit if not quick. thats all this horse needs. a mile and a quarter and targets tiring out. his last two trips were terrible, moved up prematuraly in both. if all these horses run, he will be the FORGOTTEN ONE. its got value written all over it. i figured he would lose at that bullring in west virginia(i was hoping). if he does run the price just went up. i'll be laughing all the way to the window after. his last race at this distance was an absolute laugher. if he does enter this guy talking just added a couple more points on the board. which is fine by me.


Quality Road will win with/without her. It really wont matter. He is that good. The Birds will be lucky to make the exacta. I will take Warriors Reward for second.

Bobby Fischer 08-22-2009 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Quality Road will win with/without her. It really wont matter. He is that good. The Birds will be lucky to make the exacta. I will take Warriors Reward for second.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that Quality Road needs Rachel in order to win.


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