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Ronnie 08-17-2009 10:19 AM

Jockey Norberto Arroyo Jr. was arrested Sunday
 
I wondered what happened to him yesterday! He must have had a couple of bucks on Prince Dubai on Saturday!

Agent confirms jockey's arrest

By Claire Novak, Special to the Times Union
Last updated: 11:11 a.m., Monday, August 17, 2009

SARATOGA SPRINGS -- Jockey Norberto Arroyo Jr. was arrested Sunday morning in Saratoga Springs for possession of an illegal substance, his agent confirmed Monday.

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories...storyID=831889

Hickory Hill Hoff 08-17-2009 10:28 AM

First Kurt Angle, now him!

johnny pinwheel 08-17-2009 10:45 AM

its an epidemic that celebrities and althletes fall into daily. i can almost understand people getting into alcohol and drugs when theres no hope. but these people are blessed with talent and careers that most of us can just dream about. heres a guy that COULD be at the top of his game, hes a pretty damn good rider. the only thing thats been standing in his way, IS HIMSELF!

freddymo 08-17-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
its an epidemic that celebrities and althletes fall into daily. i can almost understand people getting into alcohol and drugs when theres no hope. but these people are blessed with talent and careers that most of us can just dream about. heres a guy that COULD be at the top of his game, hes a pretty damn good rider. the only thing thats been standing in his way, IS HIMSELF!

He was selling drugs not using. The guy was alledgely earning not using

Gander 08-17-2009 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
He was selling drugs not using. The guy was alledgely earning not using

LOL, thats sure to lighten his sentence! Good to see him off the streets.

chucklestheclown 08-17-2009 03:15 PM

He should have told the cop his usual rides don't come with seat belts.

SCUDSBROTHER 08-17-2009 03:28 PM

Look at the head-on view of the last race of the Oak Tree Meet he rode out here. I mean he's out to do damage to another jock right there. Maybe he was trying to knock down Nakatani's horse. When someone simply ignores the presence of another horse n' jockey, you have to really take a hard look at what could possibly make them act that way. In that case, he just left town. I think it was probably his last race out here.

SOREHOOF 08-17-2009 03:36 PM

That is bad news. I hoped he was getting it back together. He was getting decent rides, and making the most of them. I find it hard to believe he wasn't using also. That stuff gets a vise grip on people, and takes over. Sucks. N.Y.S. is a bad place to get caught with that much toot with intent to sell. Not that there's a good place. If Gomez can come back there's hope for anyone. Valenzuela still riding in LA.?

Gander 08-17-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SOREHOOF
That is bad news. I hoped he was getting it back together. He was getting decent rides, and making the most of them. I find it hard to believe he wasn't using also. That stuff gets a vise grip on people, and takes over. Sucks. N.Y.S. is a bad place to get caught with that much toot with intent to sell. Not that there's a good place. If Gomez can come back there's hope for anyone. Valenzuela still riding in LA.?

With the mounts he was getting, wouldnt you think he could make more money riding than pitching hooch? I've never heard of a drug dealer who wasnt using. Thats like baking choc chip cookies without eating the batter.

postpicker 08-17-2009 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
He was selling drugs not using. The guy was alledgely earning not using

When you are arrested for having a certain amount of an illegal substance, you automatically get charged for distribution

Left Bank 08-17-2009 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronnie
I wondered what happened to him yesterday! He must have had a couple of bucks on Prince Dubai on Saturday!

Agent confirms jockey's arrest

By Claire Novak, Special to the Times Union
Last updated: 11:11 a.m., Monday, August 17, 2009

SARATOGA SPRINGS -- Jockey Norberto Arroyo Jr. was arrested Sunday morning in Saratoga Springs for possession of an illegal substance, his agent confirmed Monday.

http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories...storyID=831889

He's done then.He was on his last chance in NY.They won't be lenient at all with him now.His career is probably over as a jockey.

Coach Pants 08-17-2009 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Left Bank
He's done then.He was on his last chance in NY.They won't be lenient at all with him now.His career is probably over as a jockey.

He'll be in Louisiana.

Left Bank 08-17-2009 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
He'll be in Louisiana.

With his best client???

postpicker 08-17-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
He'll be in Louisiana.

No way he will be in Louisiana. NY State isn't gonna give him a chance to plea down these charges with his past. He is facing jail time for quite a while.

Coach Pants 08-17-2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by postpicker
No way he will be in Louisiana. NY State isn't gonna give him a chance to plea down these charges with his past. He is facing jail time for quite a while.

BS. It was only 11.9 grams and these are preliminary charges and there is absolutely no way he'll be convicted of dealing.

freddymo 08-17-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
BS. It was only 11.9 grams and these are preliminary charges and there is absolutely no way he'll be convicted of dealing.

agreed it 500 bucks of drugs..If he does time its a joke

Gander 08-17-2009 06:00 PM

Thats more than enough for it to be intent to distribute. I think under 5 grams is called simple possession, and anything over is intent to distribute. He'd have to have one crazy good lawyer not to do time. NY state is not the place you want this to happen. Especially if you have a prior record. I think hes got more to worry about than not being a jockey anymore.

jballscalls 08-17-2009 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
BS. It was only 11.9 grams and these are preliminary charges and there is absolutely no way he'll be convicted of dealing.

ironic your talking about coke and your avatar. ok that was mean, but still

rontheman1964 08-17-2009 07:59 PM

Kurt Angle??? What did I miss??? You got a link??? :confused:

Antitrust32 08-18-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
BS. It was only 11.9 grams and these are preliminary charges and there is absolutely no way he'll be convicted of dealing.


i agree with you but it also depends on how many times he's been arrested in the past.. if this is a multiple time he's been arrested, he may get some time.

kgar311 08-18-2009 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
BS. It was only 11.9 grams and these are preliminary charges and there is absolutely no way he'll be convicted of dealing.

15 years ago a buddy of mine got caught with 2 half grams of coke packaged separately, they charged him with possession with intent to sell and got 1 1/2 to 3 years in maximum security prison in NY. At one point he was a couple cells down from Colin Fergusen the LI RR killer. He complained to his lawyer and they moved him to the gay cell block(not an upgrade at all). NY is zero tolerance when it comes to Coke. He's f*cked.

dagolfer33 08-18-2009 09:09 AM

Send him on down here......he could be shoulder to shoulder in the gate with some of the finest..PVal, Kirk Leblanc, and last but certainly not least the electrician Billy Patin.

johnny pinwheel 08-18-2009 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by postpicker
When you are arrested for having a certain amount of an illegal substance, you automatically get charged for distribution

exactly, in new york if its separate packages, its intent to distribute. of course he was using too. 9 out of ten people that sell are hooked, thats why they are selling !

HaloWishingwell 08-18-2009 06:11 PM

He'll be doing time if the prosecutors present evidence of his riding.

freddymo 08-18-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
15 years ago a buddy of mine got caught with 2 half grams of coke packaged separately, they charged him with possession with intent to sell and got 1 1/2 to 3 years in maximum security prison in NY. At one point he was a couple cells down from Colin Fergusen the LI RR killer. He complained to his lawyer and they moved him to the gay cell block(not an upgrade at all). NY is zero tolerance when it comes to Coke. He's f*cked.

I have a believe it was your friends 3rd or 4th run in with the law and drugs. Correct?

parsixfarms 08-18-2009 09:09 PM

I heard that he was stopped at 8 AM on Sunday morning for a seat belt violation. Sounds like the police may have been tipped.

hoovesupsideyourhead 08-18-2009 09:13 PM

or he was just stupid and had it out..doing a blast before work..

chucklestheclown 08-18-2009 09:14 PM

You heard it or read the article posted 2 days ago?:rolleyes:

parsixfarms 08-18-2009 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
You heard it or read the article posted 2 days ago?:rolleyes:

Yes, I heard from talking to someone in town earlier today (didn't read the TU story). In these circumstances, there's a big difference between 2 AM and 8 AM.

chucklestheclown 08-19-2009 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms
Yes, I heard from talking to someone in town earlier today (didn't read the TU story). In these circumstances, there's a big difference between 2 AM and 8 AM.

Obviously you've never done coke.

johnny pinwheel 08-19-2009 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
Obviously you've never done coke.

unfortunately i have. i used to be young and stupid. if hes selling ,hes most likely using. almost every small time coke dealer is a junky. if hes not at the track by 8 am. he was probably up all night snorting. if youv'e ever done it, you know exactly how the game goes with that crap. people don't make much money off a losy 12 grams.

kgar311 08-19-2009 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
I have a believe it was your friends 3rd or 4th run in with the law and drugs. Correct?

Incorrect, first time serious offender. Zero Tollerence law in NY, automatic 1-3 for possession with intent.

freddymo 08-19-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
Incorrect, first time serious offender. Zero Tollerence law in NY, automatic 1-3 for possession with intent.

I find this very hard to phathom.. Plus 9 out of 10 times the DA will plee this down at least one or two levels. Now if the person(not your buddy) was a armed robber or 3 time loser things change significantly.. 3 years for 500 bucks of coke, first time offender?

dalakhani 08-19-2009 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
Incorrect, first time serious offender. Zero Tollerence law in NY, automatic 1-3 for possession with intent.

It wouldnt have taken Perry Mason to have that charge reduced...

kgar311 08-19-2009 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
I find this very hard to phathom.. Plus 9 out of 10 times the DA will plee this down at least one or two levels. Now if the person(not your buddy) was a armed robber or 3 time loser things change significantly.. 3 years for 500 bucks of coke, first time offender?

No pleading down, ZERO TOLLERANCE and it was $80 worth of **** on the street, packaged separately so it was intent to distribute along with possesion.

Coke is automatic jail time in NY, of course if your father is a State Trooper or the d.a.r.e. officer in town for 20years, you get your name in the paper one time and it is never heard about again.

chucklestheclown 08-19-2009 01:05 PM

Is that why you moved?

kgar311 08-19-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
Is that why you moved?

Winter too cold

chucklestheclown 08-19-2009 01:20 PM

I'm in Chicago; hate the cold but snow is pretty (no pun intended). GRL today, I'm off.

kgar311 08-19-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
I'm in Chicago; hate the cold but snow is pretty (no pun intended). GRL today, I'm off.

Freudian slip, I think you like that white stuff there chuckles


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