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deltagulf 08-13-2009 08:28 PM

vick in philly
 
signed two year deal thursday night.

MaTH716 08-13-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by deltagulf
signed two year deal thursday night.

Personally I don't think it makes any sense. They were a defensive stop away from going to the Super Bowl last year. I just don't understand how he makes that team better.
It's absolutely amazing the lack of respect that McNabb gets down there.

declansharbor 08-13-2009 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Personally I don't think it makes any sense. They were a defensive stop away from going to the Super Bowl last year. I just don't understand how he makes that team better.
It's absolutely amazing the lack of respect that McNabb gets down there.

Kevin Kolb might be hurt more than they are letting on. If thats the case, it makes sense. He'll throw in some new wrinkles into the offense, even if it's as a decoy. What defense in the league would be able to cover this package, McNabb in shotgun formation flanked on both sides by Westbrook and Vick. D-Jack and Maclin as the wideouts, with any one of these guys as the other wideout. (Curtis, Avant, Lesean Mccoy spread wide, or Reggie Brown). Put 36 West in motion and watch in awe. Fake handoff to Vick or let em go with it?!?!?!?!?!? Spags sure picked a good year to get out of the East. :tro:

dellinger63 08-13-2009 09:42 PM

was w/a NY Giant fan tonight and he couldn't speak

declansharbor 08-13-2009 09:43 PM

Oh, and the Don haters will rue the day when he moves his tack elsewhere. I brush these crumbcakes off every day of my life, EVERY day. Now a days, its laughable at some of these people's alternative routes.


sidenote:: Please do not quote Booth Operator when it chimes in, PLEASE.

declansharbor 08-13-2009 09:48 PM

Here comes a real gem from a Cowgirls fan. :rolleyes:




*yawns*

Coach Pants 08-13-2009 09:51 PM

I don't see how one could think this is a bad move by the Eagles. $1.6 mil for a star player? Come on now.

dylbert 08-13-2009 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Here comes a real gem from a Cowgirls fan. :rolleyes:




*yawns*

Disappointed? No comment from me. This signing speaks for itself.

Oh, and the Cowboys still have FIVE more Super Bowl victories than your beloved Beagles. Guess I should retire Beagles label in light of Vick's addition to team... NOT!

declansharbor 08-13-2009 10:26 PM

30 minutes of replying and THAT is what you throw out?!? Almost as pathetic as the 44-6 drubbing in week 17 with the SEASON ON THE LINE!!! bahahahah


Keep on pumping that stale a$$ line out when your girls are on the bottom looking up this year. Whatever keeps you from trying that spider roll move on your pets that Coach posted some time ago.

ps. It's COMICAL that a DAL fan is speechless when another team signs a guy in trouble with the law. Unchartered territory for you guys, huh? Refrain from being Nate Newton's drug mule, would ya?

King Glorious 08-13-2009 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Personally I don't think it makes any sense. They were a defensive stop away from going to the Super Bowl last year. I just don't understand how he makes that team better.
It's absolutely amazing the lack of respect that McNabb gets down there.

You don't see how adding a player like him makes the team better? He's led a team to the NFC championship game before. He's the best running quarterback in the history of the game. I could see if they were bringing him in to take over for McNabb but they aren't. If Vick is only 50% of what he was before, how many backup quarterbacks in the league are better than him? You may use round numbers to answer that.

Bigsmc 08-14-2009 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dylbert
Disappointed? No comment from me. This signing speaks for itself.

Oh, and the Cowboys still have FIVE more Super Bowl victories than your beloved Beagles. Guess I should retire Beagles label in light of Vick's addition to team... NOT!

You have an excellent history, but as long as you have your current head coach, you have no future.

Bigsmc 08-14-2009 04:27 AM

The addition of Vick is a very good thing.

I was stunned that teams were actually worried about the negative impact of signing him. Who gives a crap if PETA is protesting outside your stadium? Corral those losers over to a remote corner of your property and let them scream. Who cares if your local rag has a "columnist" or op/ed complaining of the signing of the devil? Are they afraid of losing season tickets? I would think that number would be in the low hundreds.

The NFL is a business, you win, you make money. Negative publicity about a players past will blow over in a very short period of time.

There is zero downside in signing this guy, esp. at the price the Eagles got him for.

ddthetide 08-14-2009 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
You don't see how adding a player like him makes the team better? He's led a team to the NFC championship game before. He's the best running quarterback in the history of the game. I could see if they were bringing him in to take over for McNabb but they aren't. If Vick is only 50% of what he was before, how many backup quarterbacks in the league are better than him? You may use round numbers to answer that.

the only thing that sets him apart are his legs. he's only about 50% passer. most back ups are that good. he had a VERY poor reputation for film study before he did jail time. why should that be be any better. i give him 2years at best and he'll be in trouble again......... for something.

South Beach Luv 08-14-2009 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
The addition of Vick is a very good thing.

I was stunned that teams were actually worried about the negative impact of signing him. Who gives a crap if PETA is protesting outside your stadium? Corral those losers over to a remote corner of your property and let them scream. Who cares if your local rag has a "columnist" or op/ed complaining of the signing of the devil? Are they afraid of losing season tickets? I would think that number would be in the low hundreds.
The NFL is a business, you win, you make money. Negative publicity about a players past will blow over in a very short period of time.

There is zero downside in signing this guy, esp. at the price the Eagles got him for.

This is a non-issue, I've been on their waiting list for 8 years now.

I'm just sort of sad the Eagles don't travel to Cleveland this year, I was hoping whoever he landed with would go visit the dog pound.

Antitrust32 08-14-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I don't see how one could think this is a bad move by the Eagles. $1.6 mil for a star player? Come on now.


as a pure football standpoint it was not a bad move for the eagles. I just think the man is a scumbag piece of ****.. electrocute, hang, beat dogs to death? Thats what serial killers do when they are kids...

I'm sure I'll accept him as an Eagle if he does a good job.. I'll never except him as a person though.

MaTH716 08-14-2009 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
You don't see how adding a player like him makes the team better? He's led a team to the NFC championship game before. He's the best running quarterback in the history of the game. I could see if they were bringing him in to take over for McNabb but they aren't. If Vick is only 50% of what he was before, how many backup quarterbacks in the league are better than him? You may use round numbers to answer that.

I think Michael Vick is a very talented player and I have no problem with coming back to the league. My thinking is more about the kind of abuse/treatment that Donovan takes from the fans/media in Philadelphia. I personally think the guy is a warrior and I have seen him kill the Giants many many times. Personally I hope that they take the ball out of Mcnabb's hands and even take him off the field a couple of times a game. I'll take my chance with Michael Vick. But we have all seen McNabb go into those slumps now and then and the Eagle nation call for the likes of A.J. Feeley and Kevin Kolb. Now you will have Michael Vick in the bullpen and you would think that every crappy pass/interception that Donovan throws people would be looking for a pitching change. Maybe it will turn out to be a good move. But I think ithas the potential to do more damage by undermining their franchise QB is has been a warrior his whole career.

Antitrust32 08-14-2009 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I think Michael Vick is a very talented player and I have no problem with coming back to the league. My thinking is more about the kind of abuse/treatment that Donovan takes from the fans/media in Philadelphia. I personally think the guy is a warrior and I have seen him kill the Giants many many times. Personally I hope that they take the ball out of Mcnabb's hands and even take him off the field a couple of times a game. I'll take my chance with Michael Vick. But we have all seen McNabb go into those slumps now and then and the Eagle nation call for the likes of A.J. Feeley and Kevin Kolb. Now you will have Michael Vick in the bullpen and you would think that every crappy pass/interception that Donovan throws people would be looking for a pitching change. Maybe it will turn out to be a good move. But I think ithas the potential to do more damage by undermining their franchise QB is has been a warrior his whole career.

as inconsistant of a passer that Donovan is... Vick is like 10 times more inconsistent.

Getting Vick makes me :{>: McNabb now.

dalakhani 08-14-2009 09:44 AM

Apparently, Mcnabb and Vick are very close friends and Mcnabb completely endorsed the move. Remember also...Mcnabb just got paid so he was finally given his love.

This is a home run for the eagles. You have a back up quarterback that could start for a number of teams in the league. Not only that, unlike most backups, he won't just hold a clipboard. You can actually devise ways to use him in specialty situations and not just the wildcat. Remember the way the steelers used kordell? Vick throws and runs better than kordell and I remember slash being highly effective.

For 1.6 million and an option at 5.2 million? There will be a number of teams that will be sorry they didnt take the chance.

GBBob 08-14-2009 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Apparently, Mcnabb and Vick are very close friends and Mcnabb completely endorsed the move. Remember also...Mcnabb just got paid so he was finally given his love.

This is a home run for the eagles. You have a back up quarterback that could start for a number of teams in the league. Not only that, unlike most backups, he won't just hold a clipboard. You can actually devise ways to use him in specialty situations and not just the wildcat. Remember the way the steelers used kordell? Vick throws and runs better than kordell and I remember slash being highly effective.

For 1.6 million and an option at 5.2 million? There will be a number of teams that will be sorry they didnt take the chance.

Yup:tro:

notyep59 08-14-2009 10:09 AM

any one else notice they held the press conference with "CON-WAY" on the board behind them?? just thought it was kind of ironic.

Crown@club 08-14-2009 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Apparently, Mcnabb and Vick are very close friends and Mcnabb completely endorsed the move. Remember also...Mcnabb just got paid so he was finally given his love.

This is a home run for the eagles. You have a back up quarterback that could start for a number of teams in the league. Not only that, unlike most backups, he won't just hold a clipboard. You can actually devise ways to use him in specialty situations and not just the wildcat. Remember the way the steelers used kordell? Vick throws and runs better than kordell and I remember slash being highly effective.

For 1.6 million and an option at 5.2 million? There will be a number of teams that will be sorry they didnt take the chance.

This just pretty much says that Kolb doesn't look like he is ready yet, and of course injury doesn't help. Trust in Feeley is very low.

Its just a one year deal, unless something majorly bad happens to McNabb. No way the Eagles will pay Vick's Option in any other case.

I think its more Andy Reid championing for Vick, and handling him in the same matter of him handling his family when the boys were in trouble.

Smooth Operator 08-14-2009 12:00 PM

Well, this is interesting.


Guy's clearly a great athlete.

Will likely make some big-time contributions to the offense



That said, it's time for Reid-McNabb to seal the deal.



Real Birds fans are running out of patience, Mr. Lurie...

Antitrust32 08-14-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
This just pretty much says that Kolb is doesn't look like he is ready yet, and of course injury doesn't help. Trust in Feeley is very low.

Its just a one year deal, unless something majorly bad happens to McNabb. No way the Eagles will pay Vick's Option in any other case.

I think its more Andy Reid championing for Vick, and handling him in the same matter of him handling his family when the boys were in trouble.


i was wondering who they are going to cut on the roster to keep vick.. my dad thinks Feeley... doubt they will keep 4 qb's

Mike 08-14-2009 01:00 PM

Any great child molester QB's out there still unsigned? As long as the pedophile is a good athlete, hell, sign him up and it's a home run for the team. Apparently no one in the franchise has a problem hanging out with scum for the better part of the year, be it a dog torturer or a child rapist. No moral compass on the Eagles, I guess:confused:

King Glorious 08-14-2009 01:05 PM

I'm now an Eagles fan. Big time.

Mike 08-14-2009 01:07 PM

I know, I know! He was only torturing, strangling, drowning, electrocuting dogs;)

Who cares about dogs? Heck, Vick's apologized a couple of times now

Maybe the Eagle shave something similar to hazing in their locker room. Sure would be fun to watch a few lineman torture Vick in the locker room, maybe drown him in a filthy toilet. Might as well sodomize him while they're at it.

Can always apologize later:D

Coach Pants 08-14-2009 01:14 PM

Gotta love feigned outrage.

King Glorious 08-14-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike
I know, I know! He was only torturing, strangling, drowning, electrocuting dogs;)

Who cares about dogs? Heck, Vick's apologized a couple of times now

Maybe the Eagle shave something similar to hazing in their locker room. Sure would be fun to watch a few lineman torture Vick in the locker room, maybe drown him in a filthy toilet. Might as well sodomize him while they're at it.

Can always apologize later:D

While realizing that there are millions out there that do, I don't. May put me in the minority but it just never was that big a deal to me. The part that was the biggest deal to me was that whether or not I think it's bad, it's against the law. I think you have to abide by the laws even though you may not agreee with them. But as for the crime itself, it didn't bother me.

Crown@club 08-14-2009 04:24 PM

Local company hires felon after serving 2 years in prison for dog fighting.

Letter sent says,
"How dare you hire a felon that was imprisoned for cruelty to dogs. You just lost one customer from using your products ever again."

Company replies, "We're sorry you feel this way. With regards of using are plastics product, we hope that you won't suffer from starvation, since are plastics are used for food that you consume."

2 Dollar Bill 08-14-2009 04:36 PM

I think its a good thing the Beagles took Vick... Just think when they get ready to come out of the Tunnel (the music blasts)...""Who let the Dogs out "" !!!!!

Btw..the frontpage headline in the Philly Daily news..was something like
""hey philly, hide your dogs ""

South Beach Luv 08-14-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 2 Dollar Bill
I think its a good thing the Beagles took Vick... Just think when they get ready to come out of the Tunnel (the music blasts)...""Who let the Dogs out "" !!!!!

Btw..the frontpage headline in the Philly Daily news..was something like
""hey philly, hide your dogs ""

Stay classy Daily News


ddthetide 08-14-2009 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by King Glorious
While realizing that there are millions out there that do, I don't. May put me in the minority but it just never was that big a deal to me. The part that was the biggest deal to me was that whether or not I think it's bad, it's against the law. I think you have to abide by the laws even though you may not agreee with them. But as for the crime itself, it didn't bother me.

How can torturing, drowning and electrocuting animals not bother!? you must be as sick as vick.:wf :wf :wf

King Glorious 08-14-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide
How can torturing, drowning and electrocuting animals not bother!? you must be as sick as vick.:wf :wf :wf

Maybe I am. Or maybe, to me, they are just dogs. What bothered me was the stupidity on his part.

dylbert 08-14-2009 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by South Beach Luv
Stay classy Daily News


First, I didn't know that people in Philadelphia could READ. Second, looks like love-hate relationship is starting on "hate". Third, $1.6 million for player who might play in 10 games. Guess McNabb should start looking over his shoulder. Fourth, Vick was dome quarterback in NFC South. Nine indoor games every year made him look better than he was. Last, can I get a copy of this to wrap my fish in?

hi_im_god 08-14-2009 08:04 PM

does anyone know if the $1.6 million figure is for 16 games or 10 if the suspension goes that long?

i assume that's a salary for the full year in which case the iggles might actually only pay $1 million for the games he's available.

i'm no expert on nfl contracts but i'm pretty sure suspensions mean no payment for games missed. anyone know?

deltagulf 08-14-2009 08:28 PM

for that price it is good to take change. to see what he can offer the team. just another t.o for philly.

declansharbor 08-14-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by deltagulf
for that price it is good to take change. to see what he can offer the team. just another t.o for philly.

T.O. was a locker room dividing headcase. Vick is not. He's just a OG, triple OG. EVERYONE will rally around him. I still feel that the TO/Donovan incident is what made the Eagles grow apart from Lito Sheppard. He (lito) hated how they dealt with his boy Terrell, and im sure he voiced his displeasure. The organization then showed him that they could succeed without him and put him in the doghouse by playing Hansen more.

This won't be the case with Vick. He'll be used in different looks and be greeted with open arms here. i'm guessing he toe's the company line as he knows the Eagles won't tolerate another unfortunate setback.

Danzig 08-14-2009 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
does anyone know if the $1.6 million figure is for 16 games or 10 if the suspension goes that long?

i assume that's a salary for the full year in which case the iggles might actually only pay $1 million for the games he's available.

i'm no expert on nfl contracts but i'm pretty sure suspensions mean no payment for games missed. anyone know?

was always my understanding that suspension meant no pay, like with stallworth.

Danzig 08-14-2009 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
T.O. was a locker room dividing headcase. Vick is not. He's just a OG, triple OG. EVERYONE will rally around him. I still feel that the TO/Donovan incident is what made the Eagles grow apart from Lito Sheppard. He (lito) hated how they dealt with his boy Terrell, and im sure he voiced his displeasure. The organization then showed him that they could succeed without him and put him in the doghouse by playing Hansen more.

This won't be the case with Vick. He'll be used in different looks and be greeted with open arms here. i'm guessing he toe's the company line as he knows the Eagles won't tolerate another unfortunate setback.


micheal vick had plenty of issues before the dogfighting came to light. maybe he's learned after the last few years, or maybe ron mexico will be in the press again?

Mike 08-16-2009 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Gotta love feigned outrage.


Good pickup, Coach. I was laying it on a bit thick


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