8/8 (SAR): Whitney (G1); Test (G1)
 

9TH (5:14) Test S. (G1)

7 Furlongs | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Pretty Prolific Albarado R J 116 L
2 Cat Moves Velazquez J R 122 L
3 Olde Glamour Luzzi M J 116 L
4 Heart Ashley Prado E S 118 L
5 First Passage Garcia Alan 118 L
6 Flashing Migliore R 118 L
7 Reforestation Coa E M 116 L
8 All of Her Twist Maragh R 116 L



10TH (5:47) Whitney H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $750,000

1 Smooth Air Lezcano J 118 L
2 Asiatic Boy (ARG) Garcia Alan 121 L
3 Bullsbay Rose J 116 L
4 Macho Again Albarado R J 119 L
5 Tizway Maragh R 113 L
6 Dry Martini Prado E S 117 L
7 Commentator Velazquez J R 121 L

Maram is in the John Hettinger prior to the Test, has she started yet this year?

No.

NT

Thanks! :)

Tizway could hold the key to this race.

Commentator has the car! I like Tizway too.

I never said I like Tizway, but he can hurt Commentator.

If he hurts Commentator he's done too, and Macho wins another.

Commentator rated off cheap horses at Suffok last year. I dont know what JV will do, I think he has to rate him.
Commentator's last race is different from anything he has ever run. He ran slow early and finished fast. Even though he was on the lead, you can say he rated. If he can do that again, he crushes these.

I didn't mean I thought he would rate! I like Macho a lot in here. Smooth air might have something to say about that lead too.

other then the test and whitney the rest of saturday's card at Saratoga has got to be one of the worse for a Whitney day

The all stakes pick 3 is decent.

No way they let Commentator steal this one like he did last year. Race will def. set up for a closer.

Rachel would be even money in this field also.. If Jess would have elected to run her here instead of the Haskell, by some folks pretzel logic that would have made him and her connections, "Cherry Pickers" who are just managing a campaign in her best interest and not that of racing..

What does everyone think of The Test ?
My friend and I are having a huge disagreement. I like the Wolfson horse and Flashing... I think the pace could get hot, I think Cat Moves will show lots more speed with JV riding. First time out she went a 44 flat half, then was sent to Deleware to get some schooling. With her obvious natural speed I beleive she has to run with Heart Ashley. I think Heart Ashley is horrible but the track could carry her and I doubt JV lets her go. I think it sets up for Flashing sitting right off the pace and the Marty Wolfson horse coming from way out of it...

Cat Moves/Johnny V
 

This piece is obviously a player, I like the stretch out to 7 furlongs. Last race she was full of run across the wire. She was playing with Light Green.Take the short price and key in picks. Johnny V up, go the window.

I would say this is one of the worst Saturday cards at Saratoga ever. And on Whitney day no less.

Sunday's card is teriffic though.

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When Asiatic Boy scratched I decided to stay home.

I'll do the Pick 3 that starts with the 8th, singling Our Golden Dream(15-1 ml odds) with Flashing in the Test; both Commentator and Dry Martini in the Whitney

So....is Commentator done? Another subpar performance...

That was just a terrible field in the Whitney.

If that wasn't a perfect indictment of the absolute travesty that is the handicap division then I don't know what is.

NT

How subpar was it really? Sure he's not nearly the horse he was the last couple years but he set a solid contested pace again today and was the only one of those 3 around in the lane to duke it out with the closers. It's not as though he can't compete within this year's BAD handicap division evidenced by Bullsbay just winning a G1. Regardless this was the horse's main goal so he's probably done anyway.

how much the best was Macho Again? Tough ride. I like Bullsbay so i don't really mind, but MA was best.

Macho has as much natural talent and stamina as a lot of these, he just hasn't had the super-trainer effect.

Totally disagree. Much the best? If anything Rose moved early on Bullsbay.

What's fallen off worse, the older male division in racing or the heavyweight division in boxing?

LOL, cmon its boxing obviously. Its completely dead Joe.

For a one-run plodder who needs a perfect setup to be even remotely successful, I thought he got his setup and ran his race.

I have no idea what's making you think he was much the best.

NT

Many ways to see a race, but it looked like Albarado misjudged the pace badly


wish i had bet the race, but i didn't.

Agree.

^ and by misjudging the pace, I am not limiting it to the timing of the move, but more importantly here the initial positioning of the horse. Albarado started him terribly deep at 13.5 lengths. Not only was rose about 2 lengths better positioned (eyeing it says the optimum position may have been about 8.5 lengths back), Bullsbay also saved all the ground while Macho went 4 wide and slightly brushed.

I think what Bobby meant to say was he was third best.why does Wolfson even try to win races in NY?? Steve please let him know there is a D barn in these parts.

I don't know Freddy, don't you think she ran pretty well given the break and the trip to Union Avenue on the turn?

By the way, raise your hand if you thought the final time was as sharp as it was in the Test?

NT

What do the Hollywood Gold Cup, Met Mile, Donn, Foster, and Whitney have in common? They are probably five of the six biggest races we've had in this country for older male routers this year so far. All were won by a horse winning their first and only grade one race. I said five of the six. The sixth would be the Santa Anita Hcp. That race was won by Einstein, who was just seen running in the Arlington Million because he's a grass horse. This is as bad as I've ever seen this division.

I'd love to know what the average win mutuel in graded stakes for older males has been this year. I'm sure it's very high. The pretty pony people will probably disagree, but I'll take full fields and bettable races over four-horse public workouts any day.

The winners of the HGC and the Met are pretty good. I would guess Bribon and Rail Trip both will win Grade 1's in the future.

They may. Especially Rail Trip. But that won't change the fact that this is a pathetic year for the division.

I would book that regarding Bribon. I think he's phenomenally average and this year's rendition of the Met was one of the worst I've ever seen.

Think of this, since the Met Mile this is what the 2-3-4 finishers have come back to do:

Smooth Air- 2nd at 7/5 in Salvatore Mile, 7th in Whitney

Driven by Success- Pounded by Munnings in the Tom Fool, 2nd against NY breds in John Morrissey

My Pal Charlie- badly beaten 3rd in the Cornhusker at Prairie

I suppose Bribon is likely to get his next opportunity in a race that he can win in the Cigar Mile but I'd still bet against him winning a GI.

NT

I agree it looked like Commentator disrupted Macho Again just enough to throw him off. He did look like he was closing very strong. I'd keep an eye on him going into Belmonts Fall meet.