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dellinger63 07-24-2009 10:49 AM

Obama's New Strategy
 
This will make the libs feel all warm inside I'm sure.

Obama Prays 'All the Time' for Guidance


WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama says he's gone from praying nightly before going to bed to praying all the time because he has a "lot of stuff" on his plate and needs "guidance all the time."


Obama made the comments in an interview to air Thursday on ABC's "Nightline."


Obama says he thinks every president has been humbled by the number of issues they have had to deal with. He says he thinks they are quickly cured of the illusion that one person can solve all those problems.





© 2009 Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.

dalakhani 07-24-2009 11:51 AM

Okay, you are criticizing this guy for praying when you just voted for a guy...twice...that made this statement:

"God speaks through me"



Nice.:)

dellinger63 07-24-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Okay, you are criticizing this guy for praying when you just voted for a guy...twice...that made this statement:

"God speaks through me"



Nice.:)

I've never criticized ANYONE for praying. I think it's a good thing. Not sure the Obama supporters feel the same way.

dellinger63 07-24-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Okay, you are criticizing this guy for praying when you just voted for a guy...twice...that made this statement:

"God speaks through me"



Nice.:)

to be fair he never said it but why let facts get in the way of Bush bashing?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101301688.html

dalakhani 07-24-2009 12:31 PM

Actually, dell, it depends on who you ask.

A quote from the same link you just posted:

surely not going to justify the war based on God . . . Nevertheless . . . I pray I be as good a messenger of his will as possible."



What is the difference really???????????

Bush's quote implies that he is a messenger of God's will.

LOL

The Indomitable DrugS 07-25-2009 02:49 AM

If Obama really is doing as he says ... I think he has offically confirmed that Cannon Shell is smarter and more qualified to hold his office than he is.

Coach Pants 07-27-2009 11:12 PM

That's all bs. Obama was a fan of X-Clan ffs.

SCUDSBROTHER 07-28-2009 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
If Obama really is doing as he says ... I think he has offically confirmed that Cannon Shell is smarter and more qualified to hold his office than he is.

After he wins a Grade 1.

Riot 07-28-2009 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I've never criticized ANYONE for praying. I think it's a good thing. Not sure the Obama supporters feel the same way.

My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom of religion for other people far more readily than the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd.

dellinger63 07-28-2009 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot
My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom of religion for other people far more readily than the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd.

OMG have you heard Obama's former minister and his love for mandkind sermons? Louis Farakan now that's a supporter of religious freedom you speak of?

Cannon Shell 07-28-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
If Obama really is doing as he says ... I think he has offically confirmed that Cannon Shell is smarter and more qualified to hold his office than he is.

I may not be smarter but am more qualified having had a job and all.

The Indomitable DrugS 07-28-2009 02:11 PM

Don't sell yourself short.

Riot 07-28-2009 03:12 PM

:D
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Originally Posted by dellinger63
OMG have you heard Obama's former minister and his love for mandkind sermons? Louis Farakan now that's a supporter of religious freedom you speak of?

So are you saying Obama's former minister or Lois Farakan is entirely representative of the people who voted Obama into office?

Or are you just completely segueing into something else entirely, as you often do? Is it time for you to demand I get involved in a debate over Obama's former minister and Louis Farakan! :D

Because that has so much to do - LOL - with Obama saying he prays, and you thinking that people that support him may not think that's a good thing.

Coach Pants 07-28-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot

Because that has so much to do - LOL - with Obama saying he prays, and you thinking that people that support him may not think that's a good thing.

One would have to be naive to not believe a significant number of his minions look down on praying.

Riot 07-28-2009 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
One would have to be naive to not believe a significant number of his minions look down on praying.

Actually, no, in my experience. Everyone I know who voted for Obama believes in freedom of religion, and didn't require proof of atheism from Obama before they voted for him.

Antitrust32 07-28-2009 03:38 PM

I dont care if our president prays.. (just dont waste too much time)

Now if he hears voices back then that's a problem...

Coach Pants 07-28-2009 03:39 PM

Steve please dart me. PLEASE.

Riot 07-28-2009 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I dont care if our president prays.. (just dont waste too much time)

Now if he hears voices back then that's a problem...

I'll bet you don't care what particular god he chooses to pray to, either ;)

Antitrust32 07-28-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
I'll bet you don't care what particular god he chooses to pray to, either ;)


I dont care if he prays to Pamela Andersons boobs.

dellinger63 07-28-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
:D

So are you saying Obama's former minister or Lois Farakan is entirely representative of the people who voted Obama into office?

Or are you just completely segueing into something else entirely, as you often do? Is it time for you to demand I get involved in a debate over Obama's former minister and Louis Farakan! :D

Because that has so much to do - LOL - with Obama saying he prays, and you thinking that people that support him may not think that's a good thing.

not represented at all just Obama supporters which is what you originally asked for. Remember "My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom" You somehow segued into religious intolerance of the few who think Obama is muslim and certainly they represent the Republicans?

dellinger63 07-28-2009 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Actually, no, in my experience. Everyone I know who voted for Obama believes in freedom of religion, and didn't require proof of atheism from Obama before they voted for him.

I know a tall guy who owns horses that is the exception to your everyone and it's tough for me to think he's alone.

Riot 07-28-2009 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I know a tall guy who owns horses that is the exception to your everyone and it's tough for me to think he's alone.

He's mad Obama prays? What doesn't he like, that Obama is religious?

Obama has always been open about being Christian since he's been in the public eye, it's not new news. So why anybody should be surprised he prays is puzzling to me.

Riot 07-28-2009 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
not represented at all just Obama supporters which is what you originally asked for. Remember "My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom" You somehow segued into religious intolerance of the few who think Obama is muslim and certainly they represent the Republicans?

I never asked for anything.

You've misquoted me. My statement was, "My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom of religion for other people far more readily than the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd."

And nowhere did I say or imply that the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd had anything at all to do with a political party.

Antitrust32 07-28-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
He's mad Obama prays? What doesn't he like, that Obama is religious?

Obama has always been open about being Christian since he's been in the public eye, it's not new news. So why anybody should be surprised he prays is puzzling to me.


I wouldnt doubt it if Obama isnt religious. Along with 50% or more of politicians.. including Repubs. The thing is.. if you let anyone believe you arent religious you have no hope of getting elected to any office.

dellinger63 07-28-2009 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
I never asked for anything.

You've misquoted me. My statement was, "My experience has been that the Obama supporters tolerate freedom of religion for other people far more readily than the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd."

And nowhere did I say or imply that the "He's a Muslim!" hate crowd had anything at all to do with a political party.

Ok then I should have said it's "My experience that the Bush and for that matter Palin supporters, dogs, babies and horses tolerate freedom of religion far more than the "Death to America" Muslim crowd.

dellinger63 07-28-2009 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
He's mad Obama prays? What doesn't he like, that Obama is religious?

Obama has always been open about being Christian since he's been in the public eye, it's not new news. So why anybody should be surprised he prays is puzzling to me.

Prayer. I think it was the the "praying all the time" not the standard before you go to bed prayers. And I think he's more disgusted than mad. LOL

Antitrust32 07-28-2009 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Ok then I should have said it's "My experience Bush and for that matter Palin supporters, dogs, babies and horses tolerate freedom of religion far more than the "Death to America" Muslim crowd.


come on del... its been pretty obvious lately that the republican loudmouths (palin, rush, and basically all their fans) are not very tolerant of freedom of religion. Riot makes a good example using the "Obama is a secret muslim" crowd.

Antitrust32 07-28-2009 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Prayer. I think it was the the "praying all the time" not the standard before you go to bed prayers. And I think he's more disgusted than mad. LOL


its because its political BullCrap. Obama will say ANYTHING as long as it makes his numbers at the polls look better.

I've never seen someone backtrack so much in my life. He's like Clinton (bill) but way more liberal.

"Unemployment will not go above 8% if we pass the stimulus"
"Oh... well... umm... Bush left me with the problem"

"equality for gays"
"oh...well.. umm.. equality for gays gotta wait"
"oh.. wait.. the gays are mad at me now.. well I'll get right on this"

"i'm against mccain's idea to tax employee benefits to fund health care"
"oh.. well.. maybe its a good idea, what do the polls suggest?"

he even backtracked on the gates racism thing.

its becoming way too predictable.

dellinger63 07-28-2009 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
come on del... its been pretty obvious lately that the republican loudmouths (palin, rush, and basically all their fans) are not very tolerant of freedom of religion. Riot makes a good example using the "Obama is a secret muslim" crowd.

She takes a very small minority and they're somehow indicative of Rush fans (by the way I'm not one). It wasn't a good example IMO although everyone I know who supports the conservative platform believes Obama is Christian though most are from his hometown. The majority of them also feel he left his racist minister for nothing but political reasons.

Antitrust32 07-28-2009 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
She takes a very small minority and they're somehow indicative of Rush fans (by the way I'm not one). It wasn't a good example IMO although everyone I know who supports the conservative platform believes Obama is Christian though most are from his hometown. The majority of them also feel he left his racist minister for nothing but political reasons.


of course. see post #28.

everything he does is for political reasons. its so obvious, and not different than any other elected official.

except Palin of course. She only does things for Jesus reasons.

Riot 07-28-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Ok then I should have said it's "My experience that the Bush and for that matter Palin supporters, dogs, babies and horses tolerate freedom of religion far more than the "Death to America" Muslim crowd.

Only if you wanted to try and put words in my mouth, that I came nowhere near to saying.

Riot 07-28-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
She takes a very small minority and they're somehow indicative of Rush fans (by the way I'm not one). It wasn't a good example IMO although everyone I know who supports the conservative platform believes Obama is Christian though most are from his hometown. The majority of them also feel he left his racist minister for nothing but political reasons.

??? I hope you are not talking about me. I didn't say that.

brianwspencer 07-28-2009 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
come on del... its been pretty obvious lately that the republican loudmouths (palin, rush, and basically all their fans) are not very tolerant of anything they're not.

FTFY

dellinger63 07-28-2009 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
??? I hope you are not talking about me. I didn't say that.

"He's a Muslim!" hate crowd.? a majority or minority ?

Riot 07-28-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
"He's a Muslim!" hate crowd.? a majority or minority ?

I have no idea if they are a majority or minority (of what?) They certainly are vocally intolerant of Muslims. Last time I looked, freedom of religion is allowed in America.

Here is a link to a video of the original Obama interview prayer portion that Dell references. It's a few minutes long.

http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/...ace-in-Prayer/

Riot 07-28-2009 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I know a tall guy who owns horses that is the exception to your everyone and it's tough for me to think he's alone.

BTW, my "everyone" was only "everyone I know who voted for Obama".

dellinger63 07-28-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
I have no idea if they are a majority or minority (of what?) They certainly are vocally intolerant of Muslims. Last time I looked, freedom of religion is allowed in America.



It is and it's a shame that the same doesn't exist in the vast majority of Muslim countries.

Some in those countries aren't just vocally intolerant but will cut your head off kind of intolerant.

Antitrust32 07-28-2009 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
FTFY


basically... and they wonder why congress and the WH is full of dems..

dellinger63 07-28-2009 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
BTW, my "everyone" was only "everyone I know who voted for Obama".

He voted for Obama I'm sure of that. LOL

Riot 07-28-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
It is and it's a shame that the same doesn't exist in the vast majority of Muslim countries.

Some in those countries aren't just vocally intolerant but will cut your head off kind of intolerant.

Can you name those, "vast majority of Muslim countries" for us? Which countries do you think are particularly offensive in that regard?


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