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golfer 07-11-2009 07:06 PM

Most Impressive Horse of the day
 
My vote goes to Atomic Rain

cmorioles 07-11-2009 07:22 PM

Hard to be more impressive than Gio Ponti was winning the Man O' War.

the_fat_man 07-11-2009 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles
Hard to be more impressive than Gio Ponti was winning the Man O' War.

Is that from watching the race or from your figs?

SOREHOOF 07-11-2009 07:27 PM

Allicansayiswow.

Bobby Fischer 07-11-2009 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfer
My vote goes to Atomic Rain

get serious

randallscott35 07-11-2009 07:52 PM

I was there today and Atomic Rain looked great but he may have left his Haskell on the track.

freddymo 07-11-2009 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Is that from watching the race or from your figs?

Your out of your league chubby

golfer 07-11-2009 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by randallscott35
I was there today and Atomic Rain looked great but he may have left his Haskell on the track.

He didn't save an inch of ground, wide all the way around, in hand until the top of the stretch, and when asked, EXPLODED, at least that's the way it appeared. Very push-button performance.

the_fat_man 07-11-2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Your out of your league chubby

The only thing YOU know is that I'm out of YOUR league.

NTamm1215 07-11-2009 08:11 PM

Atomic Rain ran well and obviously loves Monmouth but that field was a joke and Papa Clem, the only horse with any quality besides potentially the winner, probably needed a race.

Perhaps this is coming to fruition (three months later):

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
While Atomic Rain doesn't necessarily need to go in the Derby and probably won't get in, he's Alydar compared to Mine That Bird.

NT

MISTERGEE 07-11-2009 09:37 PM

remember this name --Dashing Debby==
winner of 2yo stake at crc

my miss storm cat 07-11-2009 09:50 PM

My vote goes to Takeover Target for surviving his surgery today.

brianwspencer 07-11-2009 10:17 PM

Oh jeez I'll bite and take the Arlington horse.

Reb was awesome today.

He obviously didn't beat much...and I think Gio Ponti was awesome today...but he was open lengths the best in that race given his trouble.

The Secretariat could be interesting.

hockey2315 07-11-2009 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Oh jeez I'll bite and take the Arlington horse.

Reb was awesome today.

He obviously didn't beat much...and I think Gio Ponti was awesome today...but he was open lengths the best in that race given his trouble.

The Secretariat could be interesting.

I have to think any decent Euros that come over will be tough to beat considering the three year old turfers we've seen so far this year. Reb's the U.S.'s best hope I guess. . .

cmorioles 07-11-2009 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Is that from watching the race or from your figs?

I watched the race and saw his trip. I also know the competition he was in against. He destroyed that field, much more dominant than the margin of victory indicates.

For the record, I haven't done the figs yet.

Scav 07-11-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315
I have to think any decent Euros that come over will be tough to beat considering the three year old turfers we've seen so far this year. Reb's the U.S.'s best hope I guess. . .

Reb was essentially the only horse that didn't run into the trouble down the lane, besides Albarado's horse who just couldn't last. He has run two good races in a row, might plateau. I won't be playing him back, but that should mean that everyone run to the window on him :)

Another note, Razo should only be bet on cadillac's from now on. He has really fallen off lately, might have a little to do with Rene Douglas going down but while Giant Oak wasn't his best today, he still gave this horse zero chance, pressed the panic button, if he is where the 2 is, I think he runs 2nd.

Rupert Pupkin 07-12-2009 12:07 AM

I would have to go with Rail Trip. He ran huge. Not only did he win by 3 lengths, but the 2nd horse (Tres Borachos) beat the rest of the field by an additional 5 lengths. Rail Trip really stepped it up today. He really surprised me. I thought he'd have a hard time getting 1 1/4 miles, but he handled it with no problem.

Sightseek 07-12-2009 12:20 AM

Gio Ponti

freddymo 07-12-2009 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
The only thing YOU know is that I'm out of YOUR league.


I never profess to be a pro capper.Mostly because I am to lazy to do the work not because it is so difficult to do well if I committed myself to the regiment. I spend enough time speaking with people who do it for a living that I know the difference between a sharp wanna be, and a true professional.

I know you miss a good part of the game..Trust me you expose yourself plenty. When you do we all recognize it and have a good laugh. If you were half as good as you think you wouldn't be so close minded from embracing the parts of the game which continue to escape you..

BTW never mess with CJ what he does you can only hope to do. CJ is an innovator not a wanna be

Bogey 07-12-2009 12:26 AM

Pure Clan showed her class in big way.

Kasept 07-12-2009 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE
remember this name --Dashing Debby==
winner of 2yo stake at crc

GEE,

You should elaborate for everyone on this effort: DEBUTED winning a 2yo stake! Was VERY impressive.

I was at the evolving CRC Saturday, and Game Face was quite dominant winning off by herself effortlessly. Thought Gio Ponti was super good and that Atomic Rain looked sharp.

Looking forward to watching the Gold Cup and Royal Heroine as we were driving back to Boynton from Miami when they ran...

freddymo 07-12-2009 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
GEE,

You should elaborate for everyone on this effort: DEBUTED winning a 2yo stake! Was VERY impressive.

I was at the evolving CRC Saturday, and Game Face was quite dominant winning off by herself effortlessly. Thought Gio Ponti was super good and that Atomic Rain looked sharp.

Looking forward to watching the Gold Cup and Royal Heroine as we were driving back to Boynton from Miami when they ran...

You stopping at Two Jay's for a Corn Beef sandwich?

brianwspencer 07-12-2009 07:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Reb was essentially the only horse that didn't run into the trouble down the lane, besides Albarado's horse who just couldn't last. He has run two good races in a row, might plateau. I won't be playing him back, but that should mean that everyone run to the window on him :)

Another note, Razo should only be bet on cadillac's from now on. He has really fallen off lately, might have a little to do with Rene Douglas going down but while Giant Oak wasn't his best today, he still gave this horse zero chance, pressed the panic button, if he is where the 2 is, I think he runs 2nd.

Where is that? Blocked behind a wall of horses, looking hopelessly beaten an eighth of a mile out?

Marcus was beside himself a quarter of a mile in with the ride Razo was giving Oak...and it didn't get any better from there.

Kasept 07-12-2009 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
You stopping at Two Jay's for a Corn Beef sandwich?

We went to Anthony's for pizza/wings. There's very good Corned Beef around Boynton at Flakowitz.

cakes44 07-12-2009 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Is that from watching the race or from your figs?

Wide all the way around, uncovered, and still finishing like that has to make Gio Ponti the most impressive horse of the day IMO.

the_fat_man 07-12-2009 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo
I never profess to be a pro capper.Mostly because I am to lazy to do the work not because it is so difficult to do well if I committed myself to the regiment. I spend enough time speaking with people who do it for a living that I know the difference between a sharp wanna be, and a true professional.

I know you miss a good part of the game..Trust me you expose yourself plenty. When you do we all recognize it and have a good laugh. If you were half as good as you think you wouldn't be so close minded from embracing the parts of the game which continue to escape you..

BTW never mess with CJ what he does you can only hope to do. CJ is an innovator not a wanna be

Really? Do I expose myself as much as some of the in-the-know types here? And I certainly have a very good laugh as some of the **** they offer. You included, of course, When was the last time you had an opinion?
I got a good laugh out of Rail Trip being a MILER, for example. Or Imperial Council being a Derby horse. etc.

I don't mess with CJ. CJ is the preeminent pace handicapper presently. I respect his opinion more that anyone's on this board (excluding trips, of course). In my own way, I'm also very good at pace. I'm certainly much better at it than those not at CJ's level. I 'probe' CJ, to see how what I do fits in with his stuff. And, like it or not, I'm a better trip handicapper than CJ, AND, just about everyone else here or on any other board. I know that sucks, BRO, that I can just look at a race and have a strong opinion, while all you other ****ers are using SOMEONE ELSE'S figures and statistics, and all the other bs. You just have to deal with it.

P.S. you're getting fixated on me like all the other ****ers that I have on ignore. I know you want attention but sooner or later offer an opinion.

the_fat_man 07-12-2009 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles
I watched the race and saw his trip. I also know the competition he was in against. He destroyed that field, much more dominant than the margin of victory indicates.

For the record, I haven't done the figs yet.

I agree, 100%. He showed another dimension yesterday.

johnny pinwheel 07-12-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles
Hard to be more impressive than Gio Ponti was winning the Man O' War.

i agree, he is a winning machine. stretching out and getting it done each time.

cowgirlintexas 07-12-2009 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
My vote goes to Takeover Target for surviving his surgery today.

awww... Colic?

Pedigree Ann 07-12-2009 11:23 AM

Not colic. From Racing Post:

TAKEOVER TARGET'S future is in the balance after he cracked a cannon bone in the Darley July Cup at Newmarket on Friday.

Screws put in, taking him home to recover, and, one hopes, a happy retirement.

mclem0822 07-12-2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
GEE,

You should elaborate for everyone on this effort: DEBUTED winning a 2yo stake! Was VERY impressive.

I was at the evolving CRC Saturday, and Game Face was quite dominant winning off by herself effortlessly. Thought Gio Ponti was super good and that Atomic Rain looked sharp.

Looking forward to watching the Gold Cup and Royal Heroine as we were driving back to Boynton from Miami when they ran...

Edgar was like a statue on Game Face, he just blew them a way much the best.

MISTERGEE 07-12-2009 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
GEE,

You should elaborate for everyone on this effort: DEBUTED winning a 2yo stake! Was VERY impressive.

I was at the evolving CRC Saturday, and Game Face was quite dominant winning off by herself effortlessly. Thought Gio Ponti was super good and that Atomic Rain looked sharp.

Looking forward to watching the Gold Cup and Royal Heroine as we were driving back to Boynton from Miami when they ran...

Yes, A 2yo by medaglia d oro made debut in $100,000 stake race and won very very easily after posting monster early fractions. Maybe see you at flakowitz Steve thats in my neck of the woods. If not soon at the spa

CSC 07-12-2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
i agree, he is a winning machine. stretching out and getting it done each time.

I agree with everyone regarding Gio Ponti, there are not too many horses that can overcome that type of trip and still win rather comfortably, the only blemish if one were to be picky is the quality of horses he beat. The second and third place finishers have a penchant of not winning races recently excluding the Italian Derby. No disrespect, but that isn't a key race from my perspective.

stonegossard 07-12-2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
We went to Anthony's for pizza/wings. There's very good Corned Beef around Boynton at Flakowitz.


I actually went to Toujay's in Boynton a few weeks ago. Right by the new Muvico theater there. Great food.

I dont think Freddy would like it though.....no Saphire.

Indian Charlie 07-13-2009 12:24 AM

Royal Punisher won pretty decently. He was one of the more obvious likely winners for a FTS I've seen for awhile and stopped the clock in 115.23 Saturday at HP. Got a 98 BSF for those that care.

Round Pen 07-13-2009 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
GEE,

You should elaborate for everyone on this effort: DEBUTED winning a 2yo stake! Was VERY impressive.
I was at the evolving CRC Saturday, and Game Face was quite dominant winning off by herself effortlessly. Thought Gio Ponti was super good and that Atomic Rain looked sharp.

Looking forward to watching the Gold Cup and Royal Heroine as we were driving back to Boynton from Miami when they ran...


Steve Maybe You can Find Out for Sure But I have Already HEard that she has been Sold. I am hearing 1.2 mill

Kasept 07-13-2009 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Round Pen
Steve Maybe You can Find Out for Sure But I have Already HEard that she has been Sold. I am hearing 1.2 mill

Apparently a guy named Jess Jackson bought her. And add another $300,000 to the already ridiculous price.

Sightseek 07-13-2009 07:54 AM

Ridiculous? Buyers pay more than that for an unraced yearling...

freddymo 07-13-2009 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sightseek
Ridiculous? Buyers pay more than that for an unraced yearling...

I couldn't agree more. 3 mil for a filly who hasn't raced or produced is a lot more insane than a 1.5 for a filly who you know can run fast. Plus Stevie A. will move her forward in a hurry. lol

Better then Godolphin at least will see her race and race often if she is healthy enough. I have a feeling Jess can take the hit if she turns into a frog so 1.5 mil sounds about right. Especially if I was on the sell side.

brianwspencer 07-13-2009 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddymo
I couldn't agree more. 3 mil for a filly who hasn't raced or produced is a lot more insane than a 1.5 for a filly who you know can run fast. Plus Stevie A. will move her forward in a hurry. lol

Better then Godolphin at least will see her race and race often if she is healthy enough. I have a feeling Jess can take the hit if she turns into a frog so 1.5 mil sounds about right. Especially if I was on the sell side.

Considering that with one try under her belt she's already won more races than that one wonderful horse who cost more than 6x her price.....

Doesn't seem so ridiculous at all.


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