Do you have betting loyalty?
 

I thought of this when I read GPK say that he was betting EC in the Million no matter what the odds were. Although this might not make sense financially, it obviously makes sense for him because he is a huge fan of the horse, so he certainly isn't going to bet against his boy!! I assume Buffy won't be betting against Perfect Drift anytime soon either.

So that brings up the question about betting loyalty. How loyal are you guys? Does loyalty only matter for G1 type horses like EC and PD, or do you guys have $10,000 claimers that you would bet every time because you are a fan, or just because they have been good to you in the past? If EC was in a race against Deep Impact and Hurricane Run, should GPK still bet him to win? What do you guys think?

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In betting there is no loyalty, RULE #1 NEVER bet woth your heart, just like in sports wagering.

I would never bet against Butterface. Never. Shes as game as they come. hard knocker, game old campaigner.

He is the ONLY horse I do that for only because he hasn't faced the likes of Deep Impact and Hurricane Run. Im smart enough to realize when I think he can and can not win. The Arlington Million, not a doubt in my mind he is capable of winning that race, and that is the only reason I bet him. If he was in a race against the likes of DI or HR, I would maybe put a very small wager on him, but not the normal $100 bet that I normally place on him.

Loyalty is a funny thing... Some people only bet grey horses, some people only bet "certain name"" horses, and some stay loyal to a horse. Its fun to follow a certain horse, and doesnt it seem that when you give up betting him or her the horse will win ? I remember my brother -in-law.. bet DaHoss in his first BC win..and the next year doesnt play him...(reason.. NO races between the BC's ) ...so what happens... You know WHO won...LOL
If you like a horse forget the odds and just play.. I wonder How many played Cigar , when he kept winning each race ? How many said... Ohhh he cant win 5 in a row, 6 in a row.....ect ? Sometimes we put too much information in the brain and tell ourselfs that the horse Cant win, when we should just throw a few bucks down and enjoy the race !

I have a tough time separating one from the other. For instance, if I see Longfield Spud running at Charles Town, you can bet your heinie I'll be throwing some coin at him.

You are correct! I will bet Drifty in any race because 99% of the time he is going to show up! He may not win, but that is what WPS bets are for!

I admit, I am guilty as sin for betting with my heart sometimes. But that is who I am. I can't change myself. Loyalty is a good thing, but not always in racing and handicapping. But like I said, I can't change who I am.

I dont know if its "loyalty" but I always put something on certain sires in a race, especially maidens. For instance, Capote or Sillver Deputy fillies. If there's a Capote or Silver Deputy filly in a race 8 furlongs or shorter and the filly has shown ANY type of class, I will put 2 bucks on her. Just learned that those two stallions often have great prices on the board with daughters who seems to win at a great clip in maiden races. So, maybe a "learned loyalty".

I will play Major Rhythm small in the Million as a friend owns the horse. Not sure if I'm loyal to the horse or the owner but the $70 some dollars he payed to win in the Stars and Stripes will keep me going for a while with future bets on him.

Oh, I'll bet Pleasant Colonies as well, but they're few and far between these days.

I agree with this completely. I'll bet my favorites no matter what. But if the race is tough....I'll get real conservative.

Always bet on Tagg on the grass. Easy money.

If I own them, I bet them no matter what. We had a first time starter at the fairgrounds that the trainer said our horse could swim for miles ,but she couldn't run very fast. She payed $17.20 wire to wire. You should of seen the look on his face.

Unraced Maidens I will always put a small bet on a Gulch or Hadif baby.

9 times out of 10
I'll bet on a KY bred horse

Angles not loyalty
 

seems to be what i'm hearing minus, GPK's love affection to EC.

I'm loyal...

I always bet Silverfoot, The White Fox and Nolan's Cat. LOL

I always seem to get suckered into betting Sacred Light. Oh, and I'm definitely a sucker for Funny Cide. That's the worst kind of sucker bet.

I always do, and that has caused some problems for me.

Loyalty
 

Growing up at The Big T I once bet on a 60/1 shot Powerdette who finished last. I decided that day I would bet $2 on that horse everytime it ran thinking one day it would wake up and win at tremendous odds. This carried on for two years. Each time the odds seam to get larger and the results never changed.

Then one day I picked up the Cleveland Plain Dealer and read where a horse has electocuted itself on the walking ring...yep it was Powerdette.

The moral of the story is you will be more loyal than the horse.

I do bet Roberto firsters though with some really good success, especialy on the grass.

The only loyalty I have is to myself, and that is DO NOT BET SHANE LAVIOLETTE...

Shane baby has to sit around all day on Saturday and watch the events until the FINAL Race, race 12, where he finally gets a ride..Could he be the dagger in the 250k guaranteed pick four? I THINK NOT

Oh, if we're talking jockey loyalty or trainer loyalty, I definitely have a lot of that. For instance, disclude Travis Dunkleberger at Charles Town at your own peril.

Kev is a slightly delusional to play English Channel on the merit of I HEART HIM...He should try and look at it from both perspectives, handicapping and heart. As in, I do it this way...I look at every race from a handicapping perspective, if I don't think the horse I like has a shot, I will either go 5 deep in the the pick three including him, or I will just sit the race out and cheer for him

No.
And it hurts. I will probably never get the opportunity to bet on Perfect Drift. Mostly because I dont think he can win unless a very specific race is run.

Some of you guys that go to the track and sit with owners... Do you feel obligated to bet on their horse? I dont unless I think they can win at a price. I will root for them.

Tom...if I didn't think he had a shot, I would bet a very small amount on him. I think he is the best in this field on Sat and he has done just about everything right to proof that this year. Obviously, there are some great horses in this race, but I still think he is the one to beat, but I am not gonna bet a bundle at short odds.

The pick three from races 9-10-11 is going to pay a BUNDLE, even with the 250k guaranteed pick four starting in that race. you single Showing up in the last leg and go 4x5 and you will have your winner, there is also some other pick threes that I am scouting so far that I know are going to pay huge.

Juice up the bankrolls because they will be handing out free money at Arlington. When the pools swell like they do at Arlington, the newbies and rookies have no idea what is going on

more to come tomorrow

Ooh I see my boys are on. I think Kev looks at EC like I do Balletto. In my opinion, she has a shot in any race she's entered in... whether its 6f or 12 and whether its again goats or the Handicap Division. Some love is just blind!

Until you get license plates that say 'Balletto' for your car, Kevs got ya beat just a little ;)

As for loyalty, it always kicks me in the ass. I've followed Cherokee's Boy for years, never had the opportunity to bet him, and then he's finally at Mountaineer on WV Derby Day. Do I unload on him? Hell no. Does he win? Hell yes.

I forgot Preachinatthebar... I LOVE that horse. Loved his Daddy too. :cool:

ditto...but I'm loyal to my money...root for him but don't bet his races. Although my love is probably lower case...

...probably could have stopped there:eek:

Panties trump license plates! :D

I bet him last time out to win... he finished 2nd. :o

I always get suckered into Sun King as well, and Shaconage. She's retired though, so I won't make that mistake again.

Shaconage - Either ran huge at Churchill or didnt pass anyone. Total coin flip. Think she won the Distaff Turf Mile at a nice price in maybe 04? I think she just missed in that race in 05...

you aint had one in a while...GFY

Loyalty at the window is a money loser. Depending on a price, any horse can be a bad bet. It doesn't mean you root any less, you just don't bet a horse everytime b/c you like them.

This made me laugh. Same here.....

I kept Come Back Ronnie in my stable mail. I would show up evertime he ran.
keyed him 1st & 3rd in the trifecta. He was the kind that if the race set up for him. He won. if not he would get up for 3rd. Huge late kik

that was on the east coast
they switched him to Cali and he ran 2nd
messed me up totally

took him out of my stable mail

he was getting old

I could never bring myself to bet against Cigar
he was always too short to bet flat. I was always trying to figure out who would run 2nd and third.

This is a long time ago. You usd to be able to pick different tracks and get different pools with different odds.

This guy looked around saw Dare and Go had he best odds at Louisiana Downs
asked the teller for the simulcast at Loser Dwns and we all know what happened.

The whole place was disappointed that Cigar had lost. All but him
when he stuck the ticket in my face, I said "Wrong track - it's not a winner"
he argued with me and I simply said "go get your money then"

I alwas thought it was unAmerican to bet against an American hero like Cigar. Glad he lost his bet.