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Kasept 06-22-2009 05:13 AM

6/24- $155k Belmont C/O Contest/Discussion
 
$154,891 Carry to Belmont Wednesday..

Let's discuss the races leading up... Looks like a fun and challenging sequence...

Contest the usual $2,000 budget for fabulous DT prizes...



BELMONT PARK


4th (2:36)

6 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Claiming ($12,500) | Purse: $14,000

1 Karakormsweetheart Fuentes R D 118 $12,500 L
2 Buea Walnut Rodriguez R R 118 $12,500
3 Previous Pleasure Garcia Alan 123 $12,500 FTL
4 Driven Woman Rivera J L Jr 123 $12,500 L
5 Saint Midas Morales S 118 $12,500 L
6 Scholarly Pursuit Lopez P 118 $12,500 FTL
7 Esquivalience Chavez J F 123 $12,500 L
8 Dancetothetune Casey A J 116 $12,500 L



5th (3:08)

6 Furlongs (OFF THE TURF) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($25,000) | Purse: $22,000

1 Sinister Deance Rodriguez R R 121 $25,000 L
2 Tutti Va Bene Dominguez R A 119 $25,000 L
3 Fiona Freud Velasquez C 121 $25,000 L
4 Ocala Jorge Chavez J F 121 $25,000 L
5 Justinline Samyn J L 121 $25,000 L
6 Bella Blu Lopez P 121 $25,000 L
7 Ed's Princess Morales S 121 $25,000 L
8 Dear Contender Fuentes R D 121 $25,000
9 No Rhyme Or Reason Maragh R 117 $25,000 L
10 Donna's Sandee Castellano J J 121 $25,000 L
MTO Green Harbor Luzzi M J 117 $25,000 L
MTO Kanwicat Casey A J 114 $25,000 L
MTO Quonata Luzzi M J 117 $25,000 L



6th (3:40)

1 1/8 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Special Weight | Purse: $42,000

2 Storm Hope Castellano J J 118 L
1 W. C. Jones Maragh R 123 L
3 J L Bernstein Lezcano J 118 L
4 Dontstealmyland Coa E M 118
5 Pernice Samyn J L 118 L
6 Mind Boggling Lopez P 118 L
7 John Wyatt Velazquez J R 118 L
1A Quiet On the Tee Dominguez R A 118 FTL
8 Cough Drop Velasquez C 123 L
9 Don't You Linger Espinoza J L 118
10 Cops Fever Luzzi M J 123 L
11 Playful Majesty Casey A J 111 L

A-Coupled: W. C. Jones and Quiet On the Tee



7th (4:12)

6 Furlongs | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Claiming ($10,000) | Purse: $19,000

1 Charming Mandate Rodriguez R R 120 $10,000 L
2 Decorated Court Velasquez C 120 $10,000 L
3 Sweet Nobility Castellano J J 120 $10,000 L
4 Smokin Sarah Maragh R 121 $10,000 L
5 Crazy Thing Espinoza J L 120 $10,000 L
6 Carolina Fuego Chavez J F 120 $10,000 L
7 Stephen's Rhythm's Lezcano J 120 $10,000 L
8 Pu Dew Luzzi M J 120 $10,000 L



8th (4:45)

7 Furlongs (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Allowance Optional Claiming ($50,000) | Purse: $45,000

2 Baroness Castellano J J 120 $50,000 L
3 Nedjma Maragh R 120 $50,000 L
4 Princess Maura Prado E S 119 L
5 Brockly Rob Lezcano J 116 L
6 Sweet Madness Garcia Alan 120 L
1 Offhand Remark Velazquez J R 120 L
7 Madam Commander Fuentes R D 120 $50,000 L
8 Speed Dating Coa E M 116 L
9 Mine Or Who's Dominguez R A 120 L
10 Silvercup Baby Velasquez C 120 $50,000 L
11 AE Acquired Cat Coa E M 123 $50,000 L
12 AE Crazy Catlady Prado E S 120 L
13 AE Mesa Girl Samyn J L 120 L
14 MTO Jovanna Velasquez C 120 L
15 MTO Summer Palace Castellano J J 120 $50,000 L
1A MTO Olde Glamour Luzzi M J 116 L

A-Coupled: Offhand Remark and Olde Glamour



9th (5:17)

6 Furlongs (Inner turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Maiden Claiming ($25,000) | Purse: $19,000

1 Sarah's Sally Velasquez C 123 $25,000 L
2 Quantifier Luzzi M J 123 $25,000 L
3 Carmen's Kiss Castellano J J 119 $25,000 L
4 Miss Saul Prado E S 123 $25,000 FTL
5 Cat Grace Chavez J F 119 $25,000 L
6 Flashy and Fast Morales S 119 $25,000 L
7 Rnbs Blackwateroll Dominguez R A 119 $25,000 L
8 Cottage Industry Espinoza J L 119 $25,000 Blk-On L
9 World Express Lezcano J 119 $25,000 L
10 Crafty Gem Samyn J L 123 $25,000 L
11 Jackpot Julie Lopez P 119 $25,000 L
MTO Super Child Dominguez R A 119 $25,000 L

herkhorse 06-23-2009 08:41 PM

Ticket 1
R1: 1 5 6
R2: 10 13
R3: 2 5 6 8
R4: 4 5
R5: 1 3 8
R6: 1 7
Cost: $576.00
Ticket 2
R1: 1 5 6
R2: 10 13
R3: 1 11
R4: 4 5
R5: 1 3 8
R6: 1 7
Cost: $288.00
Ticket 3
R1: 1 5 6
R2: 10 13
R3: 2 5 6 8
R4: 4 5
R5: 7 12 13
R6: 1 7
Cost: $576.00
Ticket 4
R1: 1 5 6
R2: 10 13
R3: 2 5 6 8
R4: 4 5
R5: 1 3 8
R6: 10
Cost: $288.00
Total Cost of Spread Tickets: $1,728.00

NoLuvForPletch 06-23-2009 09:57 PM

4th race: 7 - most likely as chavez/gullo on fire...6 - 1ster works out as fast as the others have run...

5th race: 2 - sciacca's italian charge should win here, ramon a plus...3 - fiona fraud, how many chances?
EDIT:OFF THE TURF - 13 beat nobody but did it easily...130k purchase probably outclasses these as well...plus he's a byk single and he's on fire right now...

6th race: 1POE - if not for the tagg next door would be the lock of the day...2 - tagg next door only one that can beat the favorite
EDIT: Race got a whole lot more difficult (or saved me from peril according to Andy) with the scratch of WC Jones...add Dutrow's colt as a replacement...looks best of those with a recent race under his belt...

7th race: 4 of them can win (4,5,6,7), 4 of them can't (the others)...don't really care for the 7 all that much and like the 6 the best of the remaining 3

8th race: 6 - surprise package at 15-1...throw out last (ugly incident) and her times from last year are the fastest even though her figs aren't

9th race: in order of preference...9,3,1,7...9 cuts back and drops, winner...3 - weaver due...1 and 7 logical out of same race...

6-7/13/1-2/4-5-6/6/1-3-7-9

EDIT: PK6 after scratches 6-7/13/2-4/4-5-6/6/1-3-7

the_fat_man 06-23-2009 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch

5th race: 2 - sciacca's italian charge should win here, ramon a plus...3 - fiona fraud, how many chances?

The frauds are the connections, who always seem to put Fiona in a situation where she has to do all the running. Look at her races, she's always in the mix -- at the wrong time, given the setups -- running her heart out. I suppose, sooner or later, she just might get a patient trip.

blackthroatedwind 06-23-2009 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
4th race: 7 - most likely as chavez/gullo on fire...6 - 1ster works out as fast as the others have run...

5th race: 2 - sciacca's italian charge should win here, ramon a plus...3 - fiona fraud, how many chances?

6th race: 1POE - if not for the tagg next door would be the lock of the day...2 - tagg next door only one that can beat the favorite

7th race: 4 of them can win (4,5,6,7), 4 of them can't (the others)...don't really care for the 7 all that much and like the 6 the best of the remaining 3

8th race: 6 - surprise package at 15-1...throw out last (ugly incident) and her times from last year are the fastest even though her figs aren't

9th race: in order of preference...9,3,1,7...9 cuts back and drops, winner...3 - weaver due...1 and 7 logical out of same race...

6-7/2-3/1-2/4-5-6/6/1-3-7-9


Save perhaps the 8th race, please don't bet tomorrow.

dylbert 06-23-2009 11:04 PM

Paging Captain Caveman...
 
R4: 1,5,7
R5: 2
R6: 1,2,3,4,7
R7: 4,5,7,8
R8: 3,4,6,8
R9: 1,2,7,12

$1,920

I am taking stand in Race 5 by singling #2 Tutti Va Bene. Single allows me to go deeper in Races 6-9. I had stronger opinion about my "B" horses and abandoned "C" horses in favor of caveman ticket approach throughout sequence.

Limited time makes this do-or-die, stay-on-the-turf ticket. Good luck to all... I will get results after work tomorrow evening.

the_fat_man 06-23-2009 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Save perhaps the 8th race, please don't bet tomorrow.

You think she really wants 7F?

docicu3 06-23-2009 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Save perhaps the 8th race, please don't bet tomorrow.


The chances they will be running turf races on both courses tomorrow would be?

Handicappy 06-24-2009 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
The frauds are the connections, who always seem to put Fiona in a situation where she has to do all the running. Look at her races, she's always in the mix -- at the wrong time, given the setups -- running her heart out. I suppose, sooner or later, she just might get a patient trip.

You are right. Horse has received some bad rides/early moves certainly in her last 3. But I do wonder how can the same horse be ridden so poorly by so many different jocks? Hard to bet her to win. Especially at 2/1! And Corny showed in the last race that he didn't learn much from his mount on her in early May. I like the Sciacca horse on the drop if they stay on the turf but the 8, Dear Contender, is interesting at 10/1. If it comes off, Donna's Sandee, Green Harbor and Quonata look interesting. When am I ever gonna be able to handicap a NY race without so many considerations for the weather!?!?!

Handicappy 06-24-2009 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docicu3
The chances they will be running turf races on both courses tomorrow would be?

lol, do they have a turf course at Belmont? Had more moisture over-night. But I'll be checking.

blackthroatedwind 06-24-2009 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_fat_man
You think she really wants 7F?

Probably not, but she's a big price, and obviously her last was better than it looks. I would use her defensively.

The 5th is off the turf......good news for everyone that seems so enamored with Sciacca's horse.

ironprospect 06-24-2009 08:09 AM

belmont
 
#1

5 6 7
13
1 7 10 11
4 5 6 7
1 3 4 6 8 9 10 11 12
7 10 ..............................$1728

#2

5 6
11
1 7 10
5 6
1 3 4 6 8 9 10 11 12
7...................................$216

#3

5 6
11
11
5 6
6 8
7 10...............................$32....total$1976

CSC 06-24-2009 08:46 AM

Mask And Wig may be a horse worth taking on today in the first, perfect trip last time, will be overbet...

Gaelic Storm 06-24-2009 08:47 AM

I just watched the race from 5/20/09 with WC Jones and Mind Boggling. Mind Boggling looked like he had a good rail trip but was a little hesitant to go inside a horse in the stretch and ran on well when he got free. WC Jones ha a good trip but was wide and was passed by a horse to his inside. Mind Boggling will be a better price today WC has more upside but if you like 1 I think you have to play both. Didn't anyone see that race differently? Cough Drop looked like he deserves another chance.

blackthroatedwind 06-24-2009 08:48 AM

Personally, and maybe he will be bailed out by the other half of the entry, I don't see how anyone could take a short price on WC Jones. I thought he was absolutely brutal last time.

gales0678 06-24-2009 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CSC
Mask And Wig may be a horse worth taking on today in the first, perfect trip last time, will be overbet...


Eltish Star could be worth a shot at a price

NoLuvForPletch 06-24-2009 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Personally, and maybe he will be bailed out by the other half of the entry, I don't see how anyone could take a short price on WC Jones. I thought he was absolutely brutal last time.

i thought maragh's ride was pretty poor last time and off of an 11 month layoff the effort was pretty good. in his race before the layoff he ran his last 5/16ths in 28.4...a repeat of that effort is good for the win here, no?

EDIT:NEVERMIND he is scratched

blackthroatedwind 06-24-2009 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
EDIT:NEVERMIND he is scratched


Bad opinions bailed out again!

pmacdaddy 06-24-2009 10:36 AM

Was going to single Super Child in finale if it was Off Turf. May stick to pk4 with real $$

Contest tix:

R4 - 5,6,7
R5 - 10,13
R6 - 5,7
R7 - 4,5,7,8
R8 - 3,8,10,13
R9 - 1,3,7,10
$1,536

R4 - 5,6,7
R5* - 4
R6 - 5,7
R7 - 4,5,7,8
R8 - 8,13
R9 - 1,3,7,10
$384

GL!

CSC 06-24-2009 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gales0678
Eltish Star could be worth a shot at a price

I'm perplexed by The Sidney Dutrow horse, will he run a better race 2nd off the layoff...or was his last race a true indication of his ability... it looks like Day Dee will get early pressure from Blue Bullet.

cassie 06-24-2009 11:15 AM

4th 1,5,6,7
5th2,6,10,13
6th5,7
7th5,8
8th3,10,13
9th1,2,3,7,10

$1960

swedejxn 06-24-2009 11:31 AM

3-7
4-6-10
1-2-7
3-4-5-7
1-6-8-9
3-7-11

pointman 06-24-2009 12:14 PM

$1,920

4- 5,6
5- 10,13
6- 1,2,5,7,10
7- 4,5,7
8- 3,6,8,13
9- 1,3,7,10

Good Luck!

Borntorun 06-24-2009 12:23 PM

R4 7,5
R5 13
R6 2,1
R7 4
R8 9,8,6
R9 3,1,10

stonecutter 06-24-2009 12:59 PM

Lets try these today........

1-5-6-7 with 7-10-13 with 1-2-7-10 with 4 with 1-3-8-9-10 with 1-3-5-7
7 with 13 with 7 with 4 with 8 with 2
6 with 10 with 2 with 4 with 3 with 3
1 with 13 with 10 with 4 with 3 with 7

MaTH716 06-24-2009 01:06 PM

6,7
12,13
1,6,8,10
4,5,7
1,6,8,10,15
1,3,5,10
$1920
Good Luck!

peetsa 06-24-2009 01:12 PM

3,5,6
13
1,11
3,7
2,6,10,12
1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9,10,11

1920

declansharbor 06-24-2009 01:30 PM

3,5,7/ 13/ 2,6,7,10/ 4,5,7,8/ 1,6,8,13/ 3,4,7,10

$1536

5,7/ 13/ 1,2,6,8/ 5,8/ 6,8,10,13/ 3,7,10

$384

$1920 total....GL all!!!

NTamm1215 06-24-2009 01:32 PM

1,6,7
7,10,12,13
1,6,7,8
4,7
13
All

$1920

Nt

DJARUM 06-24-2009 01:36 PM

5-6-7
13
2-5-7-10
4-5-7-8
8-13
1-3-7-10

pmacdaddy 06-24-2009 01:48 PM

Split these 'fo real with Pointman. GL!

Ticket #1
R4 - 5,6
R5 - 10,13
R6 - 5,7
R7 - 4,5,7,8
R8 - 3,8,13
R9 - 3
$192

Ticket #2
R4 - 5,6
R5 - 13
R6 - 1,2,10
R7 - 4,5,7,8
R8 - 3,8,13
R9 - 3
$148

Ticket #3
R4 - 5,6
R5 - 13
R6 - 1,5,7,10
R7 - 4,5,7,8
R8 - 3,8,13
R9 - 1,7
$384

herkhorse 06-24-2009 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmacdaddy
Split these 'fo real with Pointman. GL!

Ticket #1
R4 - 5,6
R5 - 10,13
R6 - 5,7
R7 - 4,5,7,8
R8 - 3,8,13
R9 - 3
$192

Ticket #2
R4 - 5,6
R5 - 13
R6 - 1,2,10
R7 - 4,5,7,8
R8 - 3,8,13
R9 - 3
$148

Ticket #3
R4 - 5,6
R5 - 13
R6 - 1,5,7,10
R7 - 4,5,7,8
R8 - 3,8,13
R9 - 1,7
$384


Keep it going guys!, Byk just said he didn't get his bet in:zz: so I'm rootin' for you!

pmacdaddy 06-24-2009 03:33 PM

Thanks Herk. Covered 6,10 in the pk4 here in 8th.

See what happens...

pointman 06-24-2009 04:09 PM

Crazy Cat Lady? F*ck me! :mad:

declansharbor 06-24-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman
Crazy Cat Lady? F*ck me! :mad:

Tough horse to include there, and this is coming from someone that usually backs whatever T.A. Hill trots out there.

Nice run, and keep plugging along.

pmacdaddy 06-24-2009 04:35 PM

Freakin Catlady... Didn't X her, but couldn't work on ticket. Mainly pissed I didn't cover her in pk4 as that paid very nicely and would have cost little.

Trio of consos help ease some pain.

gales0678 06-25-2009 07:56 AM

does anyone know how many tickets hit yesterday at $33k?

Kasept 06-25-2009 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gales0678
does anyone know how many tickets hit yesterday at $33k?

Seems like it should be about 10-12..

NTamm1215 06-25-2009 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gales0678
does anyone know how many tickets hit yesterday at $33k?

16

http://drf.com/news/article/104937.html

NT

Kasept 06-25-2009 10:08 AM

Wow... I saw the listed pool size from results yesterday and thought it was the WHOLE pool. It was ONLY what went in Wednesday. Yowza. The total pool reached nearly $850,000 (!).


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