6/13-14 (BEL): Ogden Phipps (G1); Poker (G3)
 

4th (2:36) Ogden Phipps H. (G1)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

2 My Dinah Espinoza J L 113 L
3 Seattle Smooth Dominguez R A 121 L
1 Seventh Street Maragh R 119 L
4 Color Me Up Velasquez C 114 L
5 Nicksappealinglady Prado E S 113 L
1A Music Note Castellano J J 122 L
1X Sea Chanter Velazquez J R 114 L

A-Coupled: Seventh Street and Music Note and Sea Chanter

Nice to see that she made it back.

Against Rick Mettee's better judgment Godolphin is actually going to RUN Seventh Street and Music Note. It's an amazing idea.

NT

Wow, that's actually a really nice race!

I don't see Music Note beating either her stablemate or Seattle Smooth at this point.

5 entries?

Maybe this should lose it's graded status for this running?

Saying "5 entries" is a little unfair. I do wish, however, that the three 1's could be offered as separate betting interests.

It may be 5 entries, but at least they are all quality

Seattle Smooth was dreadful in the Shuvee and Seventh Street set an absolutely crawling pace in the Apple Blossom on a track that was pretty kind to speed.

If Music Note runs even close to last year she will drown these horses.

I think Music Note is pretty good. Maybe people bet the race like this thread.

I wouldn't use the word dreadful to describe Seattle Smooth's win last time out, since she was bottled up most of the race. Granted it wasn't exactly pretty, but she did get the job done.

I'm thinking Music Note is using this race as a prep. Or, more precisely, her connections are. This distance seems short and it is off the layoff.

As for her running even close to last year, Seattle Smooth whipped Proud Spell last year, and I'm sure you recall Proud Spell's races with Music Note.

I don't really care about Seventh Street getting an easy lead last time either. I think she's a better horse than anything else in this race.

I think Seattle Smooth is a mirage, but given the others in the field, she will probably be third. I do agree that this isn't Music Note's best distance, but she is potentially so much better than these that it probably won't matter. And, you're right, Seventh Street is better than the others.

Some field

8th (4:44) Poker S. (G3)

1 Mile (Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Sailor's Cap Garcia Alan 116 L
2 Yield Bogey Samyn J L 116 L
3 Tam Lin (GB) Castellano J J 118 L
4 Thou Swell Coa E M 116 L
5 Operation Red Dawn Dominguez R A 116 L
6 Kip Deville Velasquez C 123 L

it's going to take hours to break down these fields

This running of the Phipps will knock your socks off!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqUXrC_4tjw

LOL. Maybe Sheikh "I should be bankrupt" Mo will enter 6 next year.

I don't get it. The efforts and 3/8's to go run for the lead moves by his other two cost Seventh Street the race in my opinion. And Seattle Move the beneficiary.

Maragh and Dutrow saw it the same way:
http://drf.com/news/article/104642.html

Possibly the best use of an entry ever... to set up another horse:zz:

that was a very strange race

Why? Cause Music Note got exposed as the mirage that she is?

I think it had more to do with her jockey making a woefully premature move and not only ruining his filly's chances but also his entrymate's. Coa was just along for the idiotic ride on Sea Chanter, who was hopeless to begin with.

Seattle Smooth was able to enjoy another absolutely perfect trip and I would bet a large sum that the result will be different the next time her and Seventh Street face each other.

The Beyer for the Ogden Phipps was a 97 by the way.

NT

I wouldn't be so quick to say that. He was solid in the Gulfstream race in February. He also had absolutely no chance in Dubai.

Yesterday he was forced into a very strong pace for the course conditions and he came up short. He struggled over similar footing in the Woodbine Mile last year and while his BC win was earned on soft ground, he was making the third start of his form cycle that afternoon and benefited from a perfect trip.

I think once they get Kip back on firm footing he'll be back to himself. Though, I will say time may be catching up to him.

NT

And Castellano followed this scintillating effort with an equally fine ride on Tam Lin. Anyone who wants to learn how to trip turf races at something above the basic level should watch the headon of this race and note how many times Tam Lin is forced to change leads because Castellano has put him in a bad spot.

I told someone that is a Godolphin fan that if Castellano ever puts on the blue silks again it is a travesty. Those were two laughably bad rides.

NT

At least he gave Invasor a perfect ride in the BC Classic.

Didn't Jara ride Invasor in the BC?

For the most I like Castellano on the turf though I agree he does make some bad decisions at times, I never liked Tam Lin. IMO he's nothing special.

He was being sarcastic for Castellano moving too soon on Bernardini.

Oh, belated LOL...I thought Blackthroatedwind was too sharp for that faux pas...

Obviously your not a Music Note fan, thats fine, don't you think you look rather foolish by not acknowledging that the race was strange the way it unfolded.

To each his own I guess.

It's not that I'm not a fan of Music Note. It's more that I think she is overrated. I think the three year old fillies were dramatically overrated last year, mostly because of how much better they looked than the abysmal colts from the same crop.

She did have some exciting races with Proud Spell, but heck, I'm not even sure Proud Spell was a deserving winner of the Eclipse last year. I definitely don't think she was the best filly in the crop either.

And yeah, the race was run strangely. That move, however, shouldn't account for her losing by ten lengths.

One more thing. Her connections suck, especially her trainer. He seems like an incompetent buffoon from what I've seen of him.

why the low beyer?

the track must have been a speedway?
I didn't play the card, but the raw time for the Phipps was great

What exactly do you think those horses are capable of running?

All things considered, it was Seventh Street's best race by far. She got a 100 for the Apple Blossom after crawling on the lead on a speed track. Saturday, she actually had to earn her number.

There were three 8.5 furlong races on the card, the Phipps being the 1st

Phipps: 23.45 / 46.36 / 1:09.96 / 1:35.4 / 1:42.13

N2L Alw: 22.82 / 45.43 / 1:09.88 / 1:35.48 / 1:42.37

NYB Alw: 23.24 / 46.41 / 1:11.00 / 1:36.97 1:44.18

NT

I have no idea on a beyer scale.

just looking at a final time for 1 1/16th on dirt 142.13 is very good. They also came home pretty well for fast paced 1:42 race, but I'm not considering that in the beyer.

Looking at the full chart, the 9th race allowance shows similar fractions, so I am no longer impressed by the raw time. The only thing interesting now is a little bit of a track condition change from "good" to "fast". I am going to assume that the Beyer was accurate, and that with the way the track was playing, 1:42.13 wasn't anything special.