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brockguy 06-08-2009 03:43 PM

Royal Ascot Contest
 
A little early I know, but I am excited about it. Hopefully there will be a bit of interest in Royal Ascot this year with Cannonball and the handful of juveniles coming over from the States.

Here's the format I propose:

-2 picks per race, (plus alternates if you want)

-£40 on first pick, £25 on second pick

-£5 reverse exacta on first 2 picks

-you can select a bet of the day or nap which doubles the amount on your main bet to £80

any questions, please ask..

Royal Ascot is on from Tuesday 16th - Saturday 20th June.

Stickhorse 06-11-2009 11:50 AM

Hello Brock,

Any chance for PPs and maybe a suggested site or two we might look at for additional info?

And last can you tell about the term "nap?"

Being in the States I'm only familiar with the eyes closed variety.

NoChanceToDance 06-11-2009 12:00 PM

Stickhorse, I'm not Brock but hope I can answer your questions.

The best two websites to find PPs and general info are:

www.racingpost.com
www.attheraces.com

Both of them require you to be a member, but signing up is easy and completely free.

Attheraces is a great website, packed full of facts and figures and free videos of past performances, and a lot of good people giving their thoughts. During Royal Ascot, I imagine there will be a micro site (might already be up).

The term 'NAP' I believe is a very old term and has something to do with Napoleon. Anyway, a 'NAP' is your best bet. The same as a 'Lock' which is what I gather the Americans call their best bet, am I correct?

Bigsmc 06-11-2009 12:24 PM

I am all over this.

Kev, I hope you are mentally prepared to take a beating from a Yank in your own backyard.

Stickhorse 06-11-2009 01:51 PM

Yes NC you are correct about the lock.

Thanks for the info.

NoChanceToDance 06-11-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
I am all over this.

Kev, I hope you are mentally prepared to take a beating from a Yank in your own backyard.

Us euros will be too good, a bit like it was at the BC :D

brockguy 06-11-2009 03:21 PM

Bigs, good to see you on board.. The more the merrier. Hopefully, we can get into double figures.. Myself and No Chance will be tough local opposition to grind down..

NoChanceToDance 06-11-2009 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
Bigs, good to see you on board.. The more the merrier. Hopefully, we can get into double figures.. Myself and No Chance will be tough local opposition to grind down..

We should reverse an exatca on ourselves mate!

I'll be studying hard for this, and hopefully I'll get another massive exacta like I did a couple of years ago. A horse of Paul Webber's and Juniper Girl if I remember rightly

brockguy 06-11-2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
We should reverse an exatca on ourselves mate!

I'll be studying hard for this, and hopefully I'll get another massive exacta like I did a couple of years ago. A horse of Paul Webber's and Juniper Girl if I remember rightly

Full House I think..

EDIT.. link to 07 Contest http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14295

brockguy 06-15-2009 11:00 AM

Bump- just a reminder that Royal Ascot starts tomorrow with 3 G1 races. First race is at 2.30pm local time which is 9.30am eastern time.

NoChanceToDance 06-15-2009 01:30 PM

2.30 Queen Anne (Gr1)
Cesare (alt Aqlaam), Gladiatorus (alt Paco Boy)

3.05 Kings Stand (Gr1)
Fleeting Spirit (alt Amour Propre), Scenic Blast (alt Tax Free)

3.45 St James's Palace (Gr1)
Delegator (alt Soul City), Lord Shanakill (alt Intense Focus)

4.20 Coventry (Gr2)
Canford Cliffs (NAP) (alt No Hubris), Air Chief Marshal (alt, Alrasm)

4.55 Ascot Stakes
Judgethemoment (alt Sesenta), Kayf Aramis (alt Liberate)

5.30 Windsor Castle (listed)
Angel's Pursuit (alt Strike The Tiger), The Hermitage (alt Mister Manannan)

brockguy 06-15-2009 01:37 PM

Might as well make my picks now, Im on the plane waiting to depart Dublin! It'll be another hour before we leave our gate, johnny murtagh + wife are 2 rows ahead of me and one of my savage friends from school is the flight attendent- happy days. Anyway here goes nothing (subject to editing alternates)

Race 1 - paco boy, alexandros alt cesare

Race 2 - scenic blast NAP, mythical flight alt equiano

Race 3 - lord shanakil, soul city alt intense focus

Race 4 - Moran Gra, red jazz alt canford cliffs

Race 5 - sesenta, valentino rossi alt Missoula

Race 6 - Stand and Fight, George baker (trained by George Baker and ridden by George Baker :) ) alt Russian rock
Anyway, best of luck all

NoChanceToDance 06-15-2009 01:44 PM

Safe trip, mate.

Interesting to see neither me or you have included Mastercraftsman at all. Maybe you should tell Johnny that the two best handicappers either side of the Irish Sea don't fancy him.

brockguy 06-15-2009 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Safe trip, mate.

Interesting to see neither me or you have included Mastercraftsman at all. Maybe you should tell Johnny that the two best handicappers either side of the Irish Sea don't fancy him.

Yeah, he deserves to be favourite but defo not odds on! Imo, he hasn't run well when it's been quick ground so he has a bit to prove. I opposed henry in this last year and will be doing the same with master! Btw, plane still hasn't moved an inch!

NoChanceToDance 06-15-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
Yeah, he deserves to be favourite but defo not odds on! Imo, he hasn't run well when it's been quick ground so he has a bit to prove. I opposed henry in this last year and will be doing the same with master! Btw, plane still hasn't moved an inch!

I'll start a book:

1-5 plane delayed because they are having to get more alcohol on board
6-4 waiting for pilot to sober up
5-1 they can't decide whether it's a very short and wide runway or if they're facing the wrong way (I hope you laugh at that one!)
12-1 Johnny Murtagh kicking off after another passenger told him Mastercraftaman had no chance.

blackthroatedwind 06-15-2009 02:23 PM

How about the Over/Under on total finish by the six Wesley Ward horses?

73 1/2 sounds about right to me.

cakes44 06-15-2009 02:59 PM

Is Ward really doing the 2 races in 5 days thing again with Cannonball?

brockguy 06-15-2009 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
How about the Over/Under on total finish by the six Wesley Ward horses?

73 1/2 sounds about right to me.


Andy, would you give a sqeak of a chance to any of them? If honor in peace lines up in the chesham over 7f on the Saturday, he'd be of interest simply because that race tends to be quite poor!

blackthroatedwind 06-15-2009 06:30 PM

Other than Cannonball, who would need the rest of the field to fall down, I know very little about his horses. However, to expect some early season 2YO winners from the US, from a trainer not exactly known for getting his 2YOs to move forward, to go to Ascot and make even a reasonable showing seems like quite a longshot.

Look, I credit him for taking a shot and having some fun, but the odds seem slim. I'm still, however, jealous.....and wish I was there.

Stickhorse 06-15-2009 06:40 PM

Tuesday Royal Ascot
 
I will list only one alternate. If my top pick should scratch please move my second selection to the first spot and my alternate will then become the second selection. Should my second selection scratch then move my alternate to the second spot. Should two of my horses scratch tough luck for me; I’ll be left with only one horse as top pick.

Race 1 - gladiatorus, main aim…… alternate: cesare

Race 2 - fleeting spirit, tax free……….alternate: amour propre

Race 3 - master craftsman, evasive………..alternate: intense focus

Race 4 - cansford cliffs, red jazz…………..alternate: xtension

Race 5 - keenes day,always bold…………..alternate: som tala

Race 6 - NAP mister manannan, the hermitage………alternate: star rover

Bigsmc 06-15-2009 07:45 PM

Race 1 - Main Aim, Alexandros alt Paco Boy

Race 2 - Scenic Blast, Fleeting Spirit alt Hoh Hoh Hoh

Race 3 - Mastercraftsman NAP, Soul City alt Evasive

Race 4 - Marsh Warbler, Flying Statesman alt Alrasm

Race 5 - Kayaf Aramis, Clopf alt Gala Evening

Race 6 - Strike the Tiger, The Hermitage alt Mister Mananinan

Good luck all.

viscount26 06-16-2009 07:24 AM

1. Alexandros / Main Aim

2. Scenic Blast Nap / Tax Free

3, Mastercraftsman / Soul City

4. Red Jazz / Canford Cliffs

5. Judgethemoment / Woolfall Treasure

6. The Hermitage / Strike The Tiger

g/l all

Bigsmc 06-16-2009 08:45 AM

Is there a free streaming video anywhere? No Youbet or Twinspires. TVG has it, but I don't have an account with them.

ARyan 06-16-2009 08:46 AM

Can I still get in? I missed the 1st...

2. Fleeting Spirit, Tax Free

3. Mastercraftsman, Evasive

4. No Hubris, Raine's Cross

5. Kayaf Aramis, Woolfall Treasure

6. Mister Nanannan, Angel's Persuit

viscount26 06-16-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Is there a free streaming video anywhere? No Youbet or Twinspires. TVG has it, but I don't have an account with them.

Mike,
Racing post is streaming I believe

Bigsmc 06-16-2009 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viscount26
Mike,
Racing post is streaming I believe


If they are, I can't find it. Busiest damn site ever.

Quote:

RUK Live Stream available to subscribers only...

fantini33 06-16-2009 11:53 AM

Striking Tiger wins for Wesley Ward at a huge number...whoops.

Bigsmc 06-16-2009 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Race 6 - Strike the Tiger, The Hermitage alt Mister Mananinan

:$: :$:

NoChanceToDance 06-16-2009 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
:$: :$:

Very well done there! I had him as my alternative (doh). Hughesy was probably unlucky not to get another winner with Angel's Pursuit, just got no luck in running.

Well, it seems like it's been a good day for many of us in the contest. Looks like it could be a real close one this year.

viscount26 06-16-2009 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viscount26
1. Alexandros / Main Aim

2. Scenic Blast Nap / Tax Free

3, Mastercraftsman / Soul City

4. Red Jazz / Canford Cliffs

5. Judgethemoment / Woolfall Treasure

6. The Hermitage / Strike The Tiger

g/l all

I'm not going to complain with 5 winners

NoChanceToDance 06-16-2009 03:33 PM

Day two looks almost impossible to sort out...... but here goes nothing.

2.30 Jersey (Gr3)
Ashram (alt Gallagher), Infiraad (alt Loch Linnhe)

3.05 Windsor Forest (Gr2)
Spacious (alt Eva's Request), Lush Lashes (alt Heaven Sent)

3.45 Prince Of Wales's (Gr1)
Tartan Bearer (alt Twice Over), Vision D'etat (alt Never On Sunday)

4.20 Royal Hunt Cup
Roaring Forte (alt Dunn'o), Forgotten Voice (alt Cadre)

4.55 Queen Mary (Gr2)
Rose Blossom (alt Don't Tell Mary), Jealous Again (alt Capercaille)

5.30 Sandringham (listed handicap)
Photographic (NAP) (alt Golden Stream), Please Sing (alt Good Again)

brockguy 06-16-2009 05:04 PM

Strike The Tiger - Oh My Bleeding God. After a stride I thought he'd win. Johnny V timed it absolutely spot on.. was too busy drinking Pimms to place a sneaky fiver on him.

Anyway, I'll try to see if I can the scores from day 1 up this evening..

Stickhorse 06-16-2009 05:27 PM

Day two of Roal Ascot
 
Jolly good show Count!

Here's Wednesday.

I will list only one alternate. If my top pick should scratch please move my second selection to the first spot and my alternate will then become the second selection. Should my second selection scratch then move my alternate to the second spot. Should two of my horses scratch tough luck for me; I’ll be left with only one horse as top pick.

Race 1 - gallagher, loch linne…… alternate: infiraad

Race 2 - heaven sent, lush lashes……….alternate: spacious

Race 3 - tartan bearer, twice over………..alternate: tazeez

Race 4 - NAP cadre, philario…………..alternate: lovelace

Race 5 - capercaillie, crown……..alternate: misheer

Race 6 - photographic, wajaha………alternate: golden stream

brockguy 06-16-2009 05:38 PM

Results after Day 1

First of all, there were some brilliant winners and even one exacta scored (Bigs in the Kings Stand). Just remember that there is still 4 more days to go and it could just be that Bigs is cheap speed!! :) At least Viscount is an ex pat, he is allowed to win.

just a word on the scoring, Ive basically taken it to be 75 for each race with the Nap being a bonus if you score but not counted as a minus if it loses.


Position / Username / Score Today / Total Score
1. Bigs +1283.67 +1283.67
2. Viscount +1142.67 +1142.67
3. No Chance +163.75 +163.75
4. Irish:) +23.33 +23.33
5. Stickhorse -266.67 -266.67
6. ARyan -301.67 -301.67

Again, if anyone wants to join in, by all means do.. sure what else would ya want to be doing during the week other than watching top class horsies run in front of the Queen.

brockguy 06-16-2009 05:56 PM

Day 2 Picks, not a day Im feeling very confident about to be honest.

1 - Loche Linnhe, Aranel alt Ouqba

2 - Proviso, Heaven Sent alt Lush Lashes

3 - Vision D'Etat, Twice Over alt Never On Sunday

4 - Roaring Forte, Axiom alt Kavachi

5 - Dont Tell Mary NAP, Jealous Again alt Misheer

6 - Please Sing, Good Again alt Photographic

Bigsmc 06-16-2009 06:16 PM

Wednesday
 
Race 1 - Gallagher, Patrician's Glory alt Awinnersgame

Race 2 - Spacious, Provisio alt Heaven Sent

Race 3 - Tartan Bearer NAP, Never On Sunday alt Vision D'Etat

Race 4 - Forgotten Voice, Axiom alt Cadre

Race 5 - Jealous Again, Capercaillie alt Chantilly Creme

Race 6 - Golden Stream, Damaniyat Girl alt Photographic

Good luck all.

viscount26 06-17-2009 06:54 AM

Day 2

1. Infiraad / Loch Linnhe alt Ashram

2. Heaven Sent / Eva's Request alt Lush Lashes

3. Vision D'Etat Nap / Trincot alt Tartan Bearer

4. Roaring Forte / Forgotten Voice alt Dunn'O

5. Capercaille / Jealous Again alt Rose Blossom

6. Moonlife / Photographic alt Say No Now

Good Luck today

NoChanceToDance 06-17-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
Results after Day 1

First of all, there were some brilliant winners and even one exacta scored (Bigs in the Kings Stand). Just remember that there is still 4 more days to go and it could just be that Bigs is cheap speed!! :) At least Viscount is an ex pat, he is allowed to win.

just a word on the scoring, Ive basically taken it to be 75 for each race with the Nap being a bonus if you score but not counted as a minus if it loses.


Position / Username / Score Today / Total Score
1. Bigs +1283.67 +1283.67
2. Viscount +1142.67 +1142.67
3. No Chance +163.75 +163.75
4. Irish:) +23.33 +23.33
5. Stickhorse -266.67 -266.67
6. ARyan -301.67 -301.67

Again, if anyone wants to join in, by all means do.. sure what else would ya want to be doing during the week other than watching top class horsies run in front of the Queen.

I hope you didn't forget my exacta yesterday, brock. They are reversed, right? I need all of the points I can get to catch the first two, but had a good day today.

brockguy 06-17-2009 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
I hope you didn't forget my exacta yesterday, brock. They are reversed, right? I need all of the points I can get to catch the first two, but had a good day today.

Sorry no chance, that slipped by the brockguy audit system! Will be updated with todays results!

NoChanceToDance 06-17-2009 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
Sorry no chance, that slipped by the brockguy audit system! Will be updated with todays results!

Cheers fella. I take this very seriously (maybe a little too seriously) especially when there is a yank sitting on top of the tree :p


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