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dellinger63 06-03-2009 10:12 AM

Obama wrong yet again
 
Does anyone check the facts before this guy reads from his teleprompter?

It is important to note that "if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world".

So says President Barack Obama.



and the realty is

The average claim for the US Muslim population is about six million. The precise figure is difficult to get because it's not included in US census data and many put the figure at much, much less.

But even if we assume there are six million Muslims in the US, that makes it only the 34th biggest Muslim country in the world - behind Indonesia, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Turkey, Egypt, Iran, Nigeria, China, Ethiopia, Algeria, Morocco, Afghanistan, Sudan, Iraq, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, Yemen, Tanzania, Syria, Malaysia, Niger, Senegal, Ghana, Tunisia, Somalia, Guinea, Kenya, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Burkina Faso and Tajikistan.


Burkina Faso? LMAO


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/toby_ha...s_in_the_world

notyep59 06-03-2009 11:05 AM

I'm sure you"ve been asked this before, but, do you hate him more because he's democrat or because he's black?? I'm not an Obama lover or hater, but if I was a hater, it wouldn't consume me as it does you.

timmgirvan 06-03-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by notyep59
I'm sure you"ve been asked this before, but, do you hate him more because he's democrat or because he's black?? I'm not an Obama lover or hater, but if I was a hater, it wouldn't consume me as it does you.

Zero is ruining the country with his insane policies and his lies to the people
who voted for him. We've been bamboozled!.......and hoodwinked:eek: :eek:

Problem is..we saw this coming and you libs just wouldn.t listen......so have your cake now.......you won't be able to afford it soon!

Riot 06-03-2009 12:12 PM

Who's "we"? Your buddy Bill O'Reilly? The minority of Americans who didn't vote for Obama. Non-Muslims?

Yes, we have six to eight million Muslims in the US, and considering there are what, like 165 countries in the world, those 6-8 million people indeed put us ahead of most countries in the world, and ahead of several European countries.

Geesh. Worry about something that matters.

dellinger63 06-03-2009 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by notyep59
I'm sure you"ve been asked this before, but, do you hate him more because he's democrat or because he's black?? I'm not an Obama lover or hater, but if I was a hater, it wouldn't consume me as it does you.

I'd say hate is the wrong word. Fear would be more appropriate.

case in point

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez said on Tuesday that he and Cuban ally Fidel Castro risk being more conservative than U.S. President Barack Obama as Washington prepares to take control of General Motors Corp.

During one of Chavez's customary lectures on the "curse" of capitalism and the bonanzas of socialism, the Venezuelan leader made reference to GM's bankruptcy filing, which is expected to give the U.S. government a 60 percent stake in the 100-year-old former symbol of American might.

"Hey, Obama has just nationalized nothing more and nothing less than General Motors. Comrade Obama! Fidel, careful or we are going to end up to his right," Chavez joked on a live television broadcast.


http://www.reuters.com/article/Obama...dChannel=10441

Sorry but joking about becoming a socialist nation just isn't funny at all. IMO

timmgirvan 06-03-2009 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Who's "we"? Your buddy Bill O'Reilly? The minority of Americans who didn't vote for Obama. Non-Muslims?

Yes, we have six to eight million Muslims in the US, and considering there are what, like 165 countries in the world, those 6-8 million people indeed put us ahead of most countries in the world, and ahead of several European countries.

Geesh. Worry about something that matters.

If you are talking to me, Bill O is a smarmy pig, but he does have the largest viewership in TV land.........not that I ever waste the time.
The problem is that the
fraud uses a "neophyte" approach to foreign and domestic policy. He pisses off our traditional allies so he can appease one group on people and pump his ratings......Sad

Riot 06-03-2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Sorry but joking about becoming a socialist nation just isn't funny at all. IMO

C'mon, Dell - this wasn't done to become a socialist nation, and you know darn well the alternative of the government ignoring it was happening wasn't deemed as good for the country by anybody with any decent bonafides in finance, right, left or center.

What do you care what that nutjob Hugo Chavez says? Are you kidding me? You know what he said about Bush?

dellinger63 06-03-2009 12:32 PM

I don't remember him calling Bush 'comrade'. Guess those amazing caribean dancers so close to each other changed it all. Since Hummer has been sold off to the Chinese are they now going to make the Humvees for the military or are we going to downsize and transport troops by bicycle?

Riot 06-03-2009 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
If you are talking to me, Bill O is a smarmy pig, but he does have the largest viewership in TV land.........not that I ever waste the time.
The problem is that the
fraud uses a "neophyte" approach to foreign and domestic policy. He pisses off our traditional allies so he can appease one group on people and pump his ratings......Sad

What is "neophyte" about his approach? What traditional allies has he pissed off? (please don't say Saudis) What group is he trying to appease? What ratings is he conducting his foreign policy only to pump?

You should watch Bill O'Reilly, there's a good chance one of these days his head will really explode.

Riot 06-03-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I don't remember him calling Bush 'comrade'. Guess those amazing caribean dancers so close to each other changed it all. Since Hummer has been sold off to the Chinese are they now going to make the Humvees for the military or are we going to downsize and transport troops by bicycle?

I give up :D

Antitrust32 06-03-2009 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Who's "we"? Your buddy Bill O'Reilly? The minority of Americans who didn't vote for Obama. Non-Muslims?

Yes, we have six to eight million Muslims in the US, and considering there are what, like 165 countries in the world, those 6-8 million people indeed put us ahead of most countries in the world, and ahead of several European countries.

Geesh. Worry about something that matters.


:tro:

timmgirvan 06-03-2009 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
What is "neophyte" about his approach? What traditional allies has he pissed off? (please don't say Saudis) What group is he trying to appease? What ratings is he conducting his foreign policy only to pump?

You should watch Bill O'Reilly, there's a good chance one of these days his head will really explode.

I thought you were a quick study,but no worries! The time you spend on Bill you will never get back. Saudis fund many terrorists groups, but I guess Congress has decided we MUST stay forever tied to oil, so we still play the game, decade after decade. Allies that we've pissed off....Britain,Israel,Turkey' and most of Asia. Appeasal awarded to the downtrodden and oppressed Muslims, most of whom have neglectred to condemn the BS that their bretren have perpetrated on various perceived enemies. Zero is like a humminbird.....going from flower to flower to pollinate with his nonsense...none of which is new,different or sage!

Riot 06-03-2009 01:14 PM

Seriously - the anti-American rhetoric is getting old. Love it or leave it.

Antitrust32 06-03-2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan
I thought you were a quick study,but no worries! The time you spend on Bill you will never get back. Saudis fund many terrorists groups, but I guess Congress has decided we MUST stay forever tied to oil, so we still play the game, decade after decade. Allies that we've pissed off....Britain,Israel,Turkey' and most of Asia. Appeasal awarded to the downtrodden and oppressed Muslims, most of whom have neglectred to condemn the BS that their bretren have perpetrated on various perceived enemies. Zero is like a humminbird.....going from flower to flower to pollinate with his nonsense...none of which is new,different or sage!



I agree... I've never understood why we love the Saudi's so much.. Like every terrorist involved in 9/11 was was a Saudi and part of the Saudi royal family helped fund 9/11 (including the A$$ HOLE who won the derby with War Emblem).

Yet we continue to toss their salads.

Riot 06-03-2009 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I agree... I've never understood why we love the Saudi's so much.. Like every terrorist involved in 9/11 was was a Saudi and part of the Saudi royal family helped fund 9/11 (including the A$$ HOLE who won the derby with War Emblem).

Yet we continue to toss their salads.

And this is why America consistently fails to do well within the middle east - a repeated, stubborn failure to be willing to understand and acknowledge the complexities of the region.

At least the British understand when they didn't get it.

dellinger63 06-03-2009 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Seriously - the anti-American rhetoric is getting old. Love it or leave it.

Seriously when has anyone said they were anti-American? And the only people who promised to leave, Babs Streisand, Alec Baldwin and the petri dish known as Cher never did. The fact I'm so concerned with the obvious path this President has taken makes me American. IMO and a Capitolist.

PS I also don't like a kids soccer game with no score but that's just me!!!
Maybe Mine That Bird should skip the Belmont to give those less fortunate colts a better chance. Or even better let him run and if he wins force him to split the winnings with the down-trodden.

Antitrust32 06-03-2009 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
And this is why America consistently fails to do well within the middle east - a repeated, stubborn failure to be willing to understand and acknowledge the complexities of the region.

At least the British understand when they didn't get it.


Are you saying that what I typed is false? Or that we should just forgive them because its complex.

Riot 06-03-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Are you saying that what I typed is false? Or that we should just forgive them because its complex.

No. I said what I said.

Antitrust32 06-03-2009 01:47 PM

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...480226,00.html

This is an interesting read. I'm not one to jump on conspiracy theories, but when 3 members of a ROYAL Saudi family die within one week of each other, and its not like they were old men... right after they were exposed by a very high profile terrorist, it makes you wonder.

Riot 06-03-2009 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Seriously when has anyone said they were anti-American? And the only people who promised to leave, Babs Streisand, Alec Baldwin and the petri dish known as Cher never did. The fact I'm so concerned with the obvious path this President has taken makes me American. IMO and a Capitolist.

PS I also don't like a kids soccer game with no score but that's just me!!!
Maybe Mine That Bird should skip the Belmont to give those less fortunate colts a better chance. Or even better let him run and if he wins force him to split the winnings with the down-trodden.

When Hugo Chavez' words are quoted to me as valid argument against the US President - yes, I view that as not on the side of America.

Riot 06-03-2009 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...480226,00.html

This is an interesting read. I'm not one to jump on conspiracy theories, but when 3 members of a ROYAL Saudi family die within one week of each other, and its not like they were old men... right after they were exposed by a very high profile terrorist, it makes you wonder.

Some conspiracy theories are very interesting. My point is that there are deep and convoluted complexities in the middle east, centuries old, including tribal ties, that we as Americans have a very difficult time understanding. Carter got it.

brianwspencer 06-03-2009 02:26 PM

Well I'm caught up.

dalakhani 06-03-2009 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I don't remember him calling Bush 'comrade'. Guess those amazing caribean dancers so close to each other changed it all. Since Hummer has been sold off to the Chinese are they now going to make the Humvees for the military or are we going to downsize and transport troops by bicycle?

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNe...49F0K720081016

miraja2 06-03-2009 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
But even if we assume there are six million Muslims in the US, that makes it only the 34th biggest Muslim country in the world

Just out of curiosity, how many countries are there in the world?

Cannon Shell 06-03-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot
Some conspiracy theories are very interesting. My point is that there are deep and convoluted complexities in the middle east, centuries old, including tribal ties, that we as Americans have a very difficult time understanding. Carter got it.

He did????

Coach Pants 06-03-2009 05:30 PM

F.uck yeah we have more muslims than Luxembourg. Take that up your ass sideways, Luxembourgistanis!

miraja2 06-03-2009 07:15 PM

I guess I just don't understand why this is a thread-worthy issue.
He said it would be "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world."
Well, using dellinger's numbers, there are 33 nations in the world with a larger Muslim population than the United States, and 160 nations in the world with a smaller Muslim population. Does that make it "one of the largest?" Well, it is in the top 20th percentile. Does that make him so terribly wrong in the statement he made that he is unquestionably "wrong again." I guess it does for some, but it seems to me that it all depends on each person's relative definition of "largest."
I think the bigger question is.....who gives a crap?

Coach Pants 06-03-2009 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I think the bigger question is.....who gives a crap?

scared white men

geeker2 06-03-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He did????


I think he meant

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dellinger63 06-03-2009 08:13 PM

why didn't he say we're the largest Christian Country in the world #1

and by the way in Judeo-Christian terms #2


so we're right behind Burkina Fasoin terms of muslims? Get a clue!! fast please

Guess we need to debate the definition of what is means again?

Coach Pants 06-03-2009 08:17 PM

Americans haven't had a clue in over 40 years. What makes you think that's going to change now?

dellinger63 06-03-2009 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I guess I just don't understand why this is a thread-worthy issue.
He said it would be "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world."
Well, using dellinger's numbers, there are 33 nations in the world with a larger Muslim population than the United States, and 160 nations in the world with a smaller Muslim population. Does that make it "one of the largest?" Well, it is in the top 20th percentile. Does that make him so terribly wrong in the statement he made that he is unquestionably "wrong again." I guess it does for some, but it seems to me that it all depends on each person's relative definition of "largest."
I think the bigger question is.....who gives a crap?

you're just in plain terms an idiot. Less than 1% of our population is muslim. We qualify like China because of population. Kind of like we're the most violent country based on murders when no one is buying vacation properties in Mexico, Iraq, Iran, etc etc

dellinger63 06-03-2009 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Americans haven't had a clue in over 40 years. What makes you think that's going to change now?

Dancing With The Stars and American Idol run and owned by a British nutjob. All is good and improving!!!!!

miraja2 06-03-2009 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
you're just in plain terms an idiot.

Glad we could keep this civil.
Although, this is obviously such an important issue, that I guess I get why your decision to resort to name-calling might be understandable.
Obviously the United States would qualify only because of the overall size of the population. It is nowhere near the top in terms of the percentage of the population. That is obvious. It also has nothing at all to do with my point.
Perhaps he should have said, "the United States has a larger number of Muslim residents than the vast majority of nations on the planet." Would that have been acceptable to you?

dellinger63 06-04-2009 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
Glad we could keep this civil.
Although, this is obviously such an important issue, that I guess I get why your decision to resort to name-calling might be understandable.
Obviously the United States would qualify only because of the overall size of the population. It is nowhere near the top in terms of the percentage of the population. That is obvious. It also has nothing at all to do with my point.
Perhaps he should have said, "the United States has a larger number of Muslim residents than the vast majority of nations on the planet." Would that have been acceptable to you?

No he should have said less than 1% of our country is Muslim but despite that the 99% plus who are not Muslim elected a President with a Muslim father and a Muslim background. He should have also explained why he was raised Christian. I'm sure with the great tollerance the Muslim people have shown lately he would have been applauded or beheaded.

notyep59 06-04-2009 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I guess I just don't understand why this is a thread-worthy issue.
He said it would be "one of the largest Muslim countries in the world."
Well, using dellinger's numbers, there are 33 nations in the world with a larger Muslim population than the United States, and 160 nations in the world with a smaller Muslim population. Does that make it "one of the largest?" Well, it is in the top 20th percentile. Does that make him so terribly wrong in the statement he made that he is unquestionably "wrong again." I guess it does for some, but it seems to me that it all depends on each person's relative definition of "largest."
I think the bigger question is.....who gives a crap?


This was my point, also. The only ones who care about this are the ones looking for a reason for this president to fail. All hail Rush Limbaugh! Or bow to him, or whatever it is you do to him. I think I know what you would do to him, if you got the chance!

dellinger63 06-04-2009 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by notyep59
This was my point, also. The only ones who care about this are the ones looking for a reason for this president to fail. All hail Rush Limbaugh! Or bow to him, or whatever it is you do to him. I think I know what you would do to him, if you got the chance!

If the subject was not thread worthy why all the responses? and more to the point why are YOU responding?

بارك الله فيكم الأمريكية

notyep59 06-04-2009 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
If the subject was not thread worthy why all the responses? and more to the point why are YOU responding?

بارك الله فيكم الأمريكية


Why not ME??? I voice my opinion here when i need to, and this time I needed to. it's my opinion that you hate the president, or democrats, or blacks and I'm just wondering why??

GBBob 06-04-2009 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by notyep59
Why not ME??? I voice my opinion here when i need to, and this time I needed to. it's my opinion that you hate the president, or democrats, or blacks and I'm just wondering why??

Two out of three

dellinger63 06-04-2009 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by notyep59
Why not ME??? I voice my opinion here when i need to, and this time I needed to. it's my opinion that you hate the president, or democrats, or blacks and I'm just wondering why??

Then I guess the thread was worthy. And as I said I don't hate the Pres. I fear him!


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