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Merlinsky 06-02-2009 06:00 PM

ESPN & Belmont Day: Come for Kenny, stay for honest to God racing
 
http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...lmont-coverage

5 whole hours after nada on Preakness Day. I was promised Kenny Mayne per the press release, and since I doubt they can go that long without showing an undercard race, this should be good times. (ETA: Comparatively, I mean no coverage vs. typical coverage. I do want to be more specific on that point given our past discussions. Kenny makes me feel like a little bit of the show Sports Night from the late 90s is come to life for a few moments and that makes me happy so I'll go right on enjoying him.)

dagolfer33 06-02-2009 06:24 PM

Here hoping Mayne does at least 2 of his typical quirky/crazy spots for the Belmont like he normally does for the weekend sportscenters.

ddthetide 06-02-2009 07:16 PM

hard to believe musberger isn't taking over at 5pm on abc. thank god he's not!

Monarchos1 06-02-2009 09:26 PM

Good Lord. I just read that they will have 38 cameras for their coverage. I will place the over/under on the number of camera cuts during the race at 18.

chucklestheclown 06-02-2009 09:39 PM

Joe Tessitore will host the programming with analysts Jerry Bailey and Randy Moss, reporters Jeannine Edwards, Rece Davis, Jay Privman, Steve Cyphers, Tom Rinaldi, and Caton Bredar, and handicappers Kenny Mayne and Hank Goldberg. Rick Reilly will provide commentaries.ABC Sports will use 38 cameras to cover the race, including a super slo-mo camera and a helicopter camera.Features on The Belmont telecast on ABC and ESPN will include: Calvin Borel on life after the Derby; Chip Woolley on training Mine That Bird; Kenny Mayne on riding with Woolley from his home in New Mexico to Belmont Park; Trainer Nick Zito on his love for the Belmont; and what makes a longshot.

I can't stand Tessitore (if he posts here, sorry). I'm glad they are not calling Randy Moss a handicapper and look forward to the Mayne/Woolley stuff:D .

-BT- 06-03-2009 06:10 AM

wow, from nothing to everything.

they basically have the entire under card, what did they show for the 2 previous triple crown races? the race before (i don't know b/c i was there)? i think its awesome idea, but at the same time don't think it means horse racing more mainstream. What other sports are really playing saturday? but something is better then nothing

i imagine i'll be sick of kenny mayne about 30 min into the show and go for the mute button. side note, what are the adw's gonna do with their video feeds? i know sometimes on big days when they broadcast the undercards places like youbet and twinspires blackout the video feed

-bt-

herkhorse 06-03-2009 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by -BT-
wow, from nothing to everything.



i imagine i'll be sick of kenny mayne about 30 min into the show and go for the mute button. side note, what are the adw's gonna do with their video feeds? i know sometimes on big days when they broadcast the undercards places like youbet and twinspires blackout the video feed

-bt-

Not sure about youbet, but twinspires never has the NYRA video

Monarchos1 06-03-2009 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse
Not sure about youbet, but twinspires never has the NYRA video

I watch NYRA on TwinSpires.com every day they run in NY.

Thunder Gulch 06-03-2009 09:24 AM

You guys are a tough crowd. I really like Kenny Mayne's dry humor and think it really adds a lot to a typical horse racing broadcast. It's certainly better than hearing Hank Goldberg bumble through some analysis before talking about how he's taking a chalkeating 4 horse exacta box.

As for Bailey and Moss. Whatever you think of them, they know their stuff. Moss worked on the Beyer team making figures forever, so saying he isn't a competent handicapper is nonsense.

herkhorse 06-03-2009 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Monarchos1
I watch NYRA on TwinSpires.com every day they run in NY.

So is it just me, or do they not show NYRA if you have a NY address?

-BT- 06-03-2009 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
You guys are a tough crowd. I really like Kenny Mayne's dry humor and think it really adds a lot to a typical horse racing broadcast. It's certainly better than hearing Hank Goldberg bumble through some analysis before talking about how he's taking a chalkeating 4 horse exacta box.

As for Bailey and Moss. Whatever you think of them, they know their stuff. Moss worked on the Beyer team making figures forever, so saying he isn't a competent handicapper is nonsense.


if by that you mean his awful comments about people wagering real money and being johnny obvious about everything with a weird comment at the end, if thats your cup of tea, have at it.

dare i say i would rather have mike watchmaker on the air before kenny mayne. Or you, i would rather have you on the air dave then listen to that f'n guy say N-VAS-OOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRR one more time

-bt-

pgiaco 06-03-2009 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse
So is it just me, or do they not show NYRA if you have a NY address?

That's the reason. Can't get NYRA or Finger Lakes if you have a NY address.

Oaklawnfan 06-03-2009 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
Joe Tessitore will host the programming with analysts Jerry Bailey and Randy Moss, reporters Jeannine Edwards, Rece Davis, Jay Privman, Steve Cyphers, Tom Rinaldi, and Caton Bredar, and handicappers Kenny Mayne and Hank Goldberg. Rick Reilly will provide commentaries.ABC Sports will use 38 cameras to cover the race, including a super slo-mo camera and a helicopter camera.Features on The Belmont telecast on ABC and ESPN will include: Calvin Borel on life after the Derby; Chip Woolley on training Mine That Bird; Kenny Mayne on riding with Woolley from his home in New Mexico to Belmont Park; Trainer Nick Zito on his love for the Belmont; and what makes a longshot.

I can't stand Tessitore (if he posts here, sorry). I'm glad they are not calling Randy Moss a handicapper and look forward to the Mayne/Woolley stuff:D .

You've already read the script. No fair! Kenny can be quite entertaining however.;)

chucklestheclown 06-03-2009 09:03 PM

I respected Moss til his pace figure schilling. Dam, Koko Taylor died today. RIP.

sumitas 06-04-2009 03:40 AM

There really needs to be an apologee for lack of leadersip from the NYRA. Horse racing needs a lot more than what they have offered. Their status quo is lacking to put it lightly. As Mr Post in his his insightful article in tbred times stated, integrity .

They do a nice job over all so I apologize for sounding too harsh .

herkhorse 06-04-2009 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumitas
There really needs to be an apologee for lack of leadersip from the NYRA. Horse racing needs a lot more than what they have offered. Their status quo is lacking to put it lightly. As Mr Post in his his insightful article in tbred times stated, integrity .

bitch bitch bitch, ever since the baby come, "want to go steady, want to go steady"

Stickhorse 06-04-2009 07:48 AM

Glad to see the races on HD this weekend
 
Kenny Mayne, for my taste, is one of the better talents on ESPN.

The networks really dropped the ball this year. The public was really captivated by the whole Rachel - Mine That Bird scene. They were ready for some extra racing action after the Derby.

I think this year's Belmont viewership will be better than last but will fall short of the Preakness increased ratings.

I hope I'm wrong.

It will be great though to see so many races in HD on ESPN and ABC. I hope we might even get to pick up on some horse body language. But we may see a little too much of the talking heads and not enough of the real stars.

Really looking forward to the race.

SniperSB23 06-04-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse
Not sure about youbet, but twinspires never has the NYRA video

Can't you just watch it on the OTB channel?

SOREHOOF 06-04-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herkhorse
Not sure about youbet, but twinspires never has the NYRA video

Not on youbet for me either. I think nyra doesn't allow it for NY residents.

SOREHOOF 06-04-2009 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Can't you just watch it on the OTB channel?

What is that?

sumitas 06-05-2009 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgiaco
That's the reason. Can't get NYRA or Finger Lakes if you have a NY address.

The FLakes posts their replays minutes after the completion of the race. ANd they keep a long archive up for viewing too.
http://www.uptilt.com/content/16298/...ngArchive.html

SlewsMyHero 06-05-2009 03:50 PM

I'll be watching HRTV. No need to turn on a garbage channel like ESPN for Belmont coverage.

Merlinsky 06-06-2009 11:08 AM

It only took'em 3 minutes to gimme some Kenny Mayne action and 7 to get me a 7f allowance. Who are these people and what have they done with ESPN on a non-Derby or BC day? :)

SundayStar 06-06-2009 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlewsMyHero
I'll be watching HRTV. No need to turn on a garbage channel like ESPN for Belmont coverage.

one big reason: high definition

Merlinsky 06-06-2009 12:10 PM

I take it this 1 1/16 turf race coming up is the one Nicanor didn't draw into. Did those 4 scratches enter hoping for either a harder surface than it ended up being or even a switch to main track? How close was Nic to making it? If that is it, I would love to know who was supposed to have the mount as Edgar is riding in it.

Sightseek 06-06-2009 04:14 PM

How many times are they going to play the same thing?

:zz:

TheSpyder 06-06-2009 04:42 PM

Where the hell is the Mahattan? ESPN did a nice job then this crap? And Twin Spires pulls the plug on live feed for this crap..

CRAP

cowgirlintexas 06-06-2009 05:05 PM

I'm wondering what happened to Calvin's eyebrows :rolleyes:

Coach Pants 06-06-2009 06:51 PM

Boy that segment with Woolley was comedy gold. :rolleyes:

Merlinsky 06-06-2009 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Boy that segment with Woolley was comedy gold. :rolleyes:

Hey they had the sense to get a blurb from Steve Haskin for one of those rerun segments they did. Made my day right there.

Bobby Fischer 06-06-2009 11:38 PM

Why is the only Belmont Stakes Video on ESPN , a condensed top of the stretch version?

ABC/ESPN ... Where are the high quality videos? Unique camera angles?? ANYTHING WORTH MY DOWNLOAD? The short stretch only view isn't even better than what youtube has up. kind of pathetic considering the technology at their fingertips.

Thankfully Youtube has some nice videos up from users. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mwG-zvPOlA

Alan07 06-07-2009 01:23 AM

The word is that the Belmont rating isn't going to be good

SniperSB23 06-07-2009 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07
The word is that the Belmont rating isn't going to be good

No chance for horse racing with that amazing NHL game tonight.

Danzig 06-07-2009 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07
The word is that the Belmont rating isn't going to be good

i did see that attendence for the race was over 50k-certainly higher than what was projected by some on here...
but i'm not surprised tv is down.

herkhorse 06-07-2009 06:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
No chance for horse racing with that amazing NHL game tonight.

yea, that was riveting

ddthetide 06-07-2009 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07
The word is that the Belmont rating isn't going to be good

i listen to espn radio all day monday through friday 8am-4pm and they didn't run promos for the belmont until this week. And they did Not run the heck out of the promo like they do everything else.:wf

Stickhorse 06-07-2009 07:49 AM

No doubt NBC did a much better job with their promotion of the first two jewels.

ABC/ESPN is too busy pushing the NBA playoffs.

Too bad because it was a hell of a race.

Antitrust32 06-08-2009 08:22 AM

Was anyone else highly annoyed by that scroll thing they had on the left hand side of the TV with the results of the previous races (eventhough they left OFF the turf race?) There was like 4 race results that just kept being shown over and over and over... I would imagine a lot of the people watching didnt even know what it was. And they had it up til the horses broke from the gate in the Belmont Stakes. It cut off a lot of view and just looked stupid. Its one thing if there was 100 results to go through, but showing 4 results OVer and Over and Over annoyed the hell outta me.

SniperSB23 06-08-2009 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Was anyone else highly annoyed by that scroll thing they had on the left hand side of the TV with the results of the previous races (eventhough they left OFF the turf race?) There was like 4 race results that just kept being shown over and over and over... I would imagine a lot of the people watching didnt even know what it was. And they had it up til the horses broke from the gate in the Belmont Stakes. It cut off a lot of view and just looked stupid. Its one thing if there was 100 results to go through, but showing 4 results OVer and Over and Over annoyed the hell outta me.

I never checked the standard feed but since it was off to the side I just assumed it was for the HD feed. Networks don't seem to know what to do with that added area since they can't put anything too important that the viewers on the standard feed won't be able to see. In most cases just putting nothing there would be preferable.


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