Synthetic surface Beyers tweaked
 

Tuesday on 'At the Races', Andy Beyer at 4:15. He will be elaborating on the changes to the Figures for synthetic surfaces. Andy will talk about the impetus for the change and methodology involved and take listeners respectful and intelligent calls...

This is a bad idea.....

You shouldn't "tweak" figures to make them look closer to dirt, when the surface isn't dirt!!! This is a 3rd surface. Can't people just accept the figures are different?

As soon as I heard about this I began waiting with baited breath for the inane comments I would read on the internet concerning this.

^^cheap speed.

I knew POTN should have won the Preakness....

They ripped CJ's cool converter box thingy off.

The keep-them-in-the-game hall of fame: Beyer for speed and CJ for pace/speed.

DrugS for breathtaking good looks.

and modest too.....

;)

It's not immodesty if you're delusional.

lol


c'mon now andy, everyone has seen indian charlies avatar by now...they know drugs is




oh, i get your point now. :D

Nicely done.

At least Linda Watson knows what's up.

What is this bridge?
Nicely done?

How bout a big ole fkn A?
Coach pants style, and find a way
to add douche in there.

That wouldn't be necessary, he's not the douche.

Nicely done ( including, but not exclusive to, not quoting him ).

mixed feelings ive made my own adjustments sence the start.but i guess its good for all

Honestly I thought this was due, but I have mixed feelings since I drew my own conclusions with the synth numbers. This in my opinion gives the novice speed handicapper an easy way out, whereas for myself and others that take the time to watch video and make educated guesses, harder to gain an advantage, I don't know if that makes sense but the best illustration is I thought The Pampelmousse's number was low to begin with and now the rest of the world knows...and seemingly agrees.

Does a poly number mean anything if track temp is not part of the equation?

it does to me and im more interested in the current track moisture level

Line drive over the head of an
innocent Bystander.

my bad.
short history.

Are you two finished yet?

Perhaps you guys never got the memo, but ...

One half year ago the proudest boast was 'At least I'm not Morty'. Today, in the world of freedom, the proudest boast is Ich bin ein Douchebag.

Nice Avatar.

You should hook up Pat Day as his Jock agent...You could hand out Track Chaplain bulletins while booking his mounts. ;)

File this one under 'Who gives a fuc|<'.

Beyers
 

:zz: - I would like to see all synthetic horse Beyers updated. From Pioneerof the Nile to Giacomo (not just going back to January).

- I think that it is great for Andy Beyer to recognize a mistake and change it. Unlike Secretariat’s final time in the Preakness.... where I am still to hear that there was a timer malfunction.;)

There's not enough time in the day for Beyer to update Giacomo's synthetic Beyers.

NT

I assume you think he should lower Pioneer of the Nile's numbers.

Zenyatta must look like a super monster in her PPs now that the beyers have been tweaked.

How surprising that many that commented in this thread clearly don't even seem to have taken the time to read the article.

just like the changes will be impreceptible to most...

How will you arrange that?

Rammstein?

??? I'm not a big Beyer's person to begin with, but the synth tracks, like Keeneland, have been providing numbers on their own. The Beyer people have no choice but to respond or go the way of General Motors.

I was referring to the part I bolded.

:D

Hey! Dusty Rhodes is a scholar!

Beyer is admitting that the assumptions upon which he previously relied in making speed figures for synthetic races were flawed. Why should we think that the new assumptions are any more accurate. He staes that he is essentially tweaking the figures to fit the following conclusory proposition:

"But the general rule is: The fastest races produce higher figures, the slowest races produce lower figures."

In many respects, it appears that Beyer is now treating synthetic races in much the same way that he has treated turf races. And my sense about their turf figures is that, given the manner in which those races are run, the turf figures rarely deviate significantly from the pars for a given class. With the above statement, is that what we are likely to get from Beyer figures for synthetic races? If so, why not just assign a class rating for non-dirt races and don't worry about calculating a "speed" figure.

No...

This dude ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7drzQ...eature=related

...well, she is a super monster al......