It took 20 nobel prize winners...
 

to come up with this
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ear...ite-roofs.html

forgive me for finding this hard to believe


"If you look at all the buildings and if you make the roofs white and if you make the pavement more of a concrete type of colour rather than a black type of colour and if you do that uniformally, that would be the equivalent of... reducing the carbon emissions due to all the cars in the world by 11 years – just taking them off the road for 11 years," he said.

LOL that is too much.
On a related note, I was behind a car in traffic this afternoon with a bumper sticker "Let's Go Green"...seconds later the driver flicked a cigarette butt out the window.

sounds like a Jets fan

00000000!!

Whatever happen to acid rain?

Always wear light colors when I'm cruisin' the So Cal coast in the convertible. :cool:

its not even debatable that black absorbs heat where as white reflects heat.

interesting proposal but dont know if there is any way to have all the people in the world paint their roof's white. and basically all the roads in the world would have to be re-done. would create a ton of jobs, would also cost a TON of money and doesnt seem possible really.

It doesnt really matter what the US does about climate change. It has to be a world wide change. Nothing that one country does is going to affect the world unless everyone goes along.

i'm not painting my roof. i don't even know that it's possible. actually, i thought it sounded overly simplistic. but what do i know, i've never won a Nobel. :rolleyes:

Farakhan called today and wants to know why the roofs have to be painted...white?????

Try the veal...we'll be here till thursday.:p

Sure it does, because we are one of the biggest contributors. Nobody may care what Ruwanda does, but the US? Yes, as "the" industrialized nation, we matter.

I don't know if you've ever re-roofed your house, but choice in roof color is influenced greatly by where you live - light colors often chosen in southern areas to reflect the heat and keep the attic cooler (thus the house), dark in the north (helps heat the house in winter, etc)

Most city roofs have flat, black, asphalted roofs. Trouble is, there's not a good substitute for black roofing asphalt. So another "thing" becoming very popular is roof gardens - even things like planting a whole acre of roof in short wildflowers. Stops the heat reflectivity of the black roofs. Keeps the building insulated all seasons. Helps with rain runoff/flooding locally, too

way back when, when i was in high school, i used to do construction work, including roofing. we just had ours redone last year, it's a lighter brown color. can't answer for everyone, but my roof color was based on the color of the brick exterior. my point was that i don't think you can paint shingles. :D
we installed attic fans to help keep the attic a bit cooler, and help ventilate it. also had a top of the line heating/air unit installed when the compressor went tits up a few months back.

as for whether our country matters as far as helping with emissions....there are a lot of other countries who spew a lot more pollution than we do, since a lot of other countries can be as populated or moreso, without all the epa regulations that we face. i think as a country we're doing our part, but some others (cough, cough China, india, etc) may not be doing theirs. but they still point at us since we're such a popular target.

a million comedians out of work.....:)

okay....i have a serious question...and i am not going to argue im just curious.

How many people believe that global warming is a problem? Or not a problem?

Reading the article, they weren't talking about single family dwellings <g> (and this isn't "what 20 Nobel prizewinners" came up with, either, it's just what the US guy said)

You're right, we are light-years ahead of China on industrial emissions, but we don't do that much extra in the overall world scheme, really. We are not only a popular target, we are a valid target. We Americans are tied very tightly to our freedom to do whatever we want, consequences to others be damned.

But what other countries do doesn't matter to me. What we do, does.

i guess i don't take it very seriously. i remember when i was a teen that all the talk was about the impending ice age...now it's the impending global warming and resultant flooding. like politics, it seems our weather goes from one extreme to the other. some scientists say it's real, others that it isn't. how do you know who to believe?
i know one scientist i wouldn't believe- that scientist from russia that says a ufo saved us from a meteor. :zz:

thing is....and i know some don't want to consider it, or choose not to....but this planet is doomed eventually regardless. the sun isn't going to be around in its current state forever you know.

as for us being a 'valid' target...i don't agree with that. sometimes yes, but not on everything. i think we're way ahead of the curve on a lot of stuff. but it's easy for someone elsewhere to just say 'boooo evil u.s.a' and have no one argue.

I don't think global warming is a "belief". It's proven beyond doubt that it's occuring. And faster than predicted 30 years ago. Man's contribution is also clearly measurable. Yes, the earth goes through cycles of warmth and cooling. Industrialization has definitely fanned the flames.

Is it a problem? Yes, one thinks it's sad polar bears will be gone in most of the wild in 20-30 years. If you realize more species have gone extinct in the last 100 years (due to population, industrialization, etc - humans) than in the last 10,000.

It's sad many beaches will be gone in 50 years, and tons of landmass lost, due to rising ocean waters. It's sad agricultural areas will be devastated by climate change and unrecoverable for use, as we have so many people in the world to feed.

The other side is there will be new species that will evolve to the new climate , there will also be new beaches , it doesnt take that long for things to break down and make new sand . We as humans will adapt and improvise to our new climate , we will evolve just like the rest of nature.

Brilliant analysis Galileo. Unless we all instantaneously grow gills and become impervious to UV rays, we're not going to "adapt" to a climate shift. We'll be dead. But hey, there'll be more beaches! Everybody loves sand!

Danzig, which scientists say global warming isn't happening?

More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
December 11, 2008
Scientists Continue to Debunk "Consensus" in 2008
Over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations Intergovernemntal Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore. This new 231-page U.S. Senate Minority Report report -- updated from 2007's groundbreaking report of over 400 scientists who voiced skepticism about the so-called global warming "consensus" -- features the skeptical voices of over 650 prominent international scientists, including many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN IPCC. This updated report includes an additional 250 (and growing) scientists and climate researchers since the initial release in December 2007. The over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.

The chorus of skeptical scientific voices grow louder in 2008 as a steady stream of peer-reviewed studies, analyses, real world data and inconvenient developments challenged the UN and former Vice President Al Gore's claims that the "science is settled" and there is a "consensus." On a range of issues, 2008 proved to be challenging for the promoters of man-made climate fears. Promoters of anthropogenic warming fears endured the following: Global temperatures failing to warm; Peer-reviwed studies predicting a continued lack of warming; a failed attempt to revive the discredited "Hockey Stick"; inconvenient developments and studies regarding CO2; the Sun; Clouds; Antarctica; the Arctic; Greenland; Mount Kilimanjaro; Hurricanes; Extreme Storms; Floods; Ocean Acidification; Polar Bears; lack of atmosphieric dust; the failure of oceans to warm and rise as predicted.




~~~then there are the scientists who say it's not man made global warming.

http://www.enterstageright.com/archi...gwpetition.htm

that one is on the 31k u.s. scientists who say that.


that's just a couple examples. if you do a search, a lot of results come up.

Very Good,Ziggy! Just imagine the outrage if I'd posted this piece.
Global Warming is a nice little cottage industry spawned by yokels like
Gore. It boggles my mind about the numbers of people buying this line. Conservation is great, but this going green crap will bankrupt economies....with no appreciable advantage!

Well if your dead then you wont have to worry about it now will ya.

Global warming hysteria is the closest thing to a State sanctioned religion this country has ever seen. This planet has been warming and cooling in cycles since the dawn of time. It will do what it's gonna do regardless of mans actions. We've been emerging from the last ice age for thousands of years, of course it's getting warmer. Pollution is a more serious threat. One large volcanic eruption will do more to pause global warming than painting our roofs white. I'm thinking of starting my own carbon credit company to compete with Gore's.

There are a whole group of "scientists"
that dont believe evolution occurs either.

If there are people that can look at the numbers we
have over the past 50 years and say that the avg.
temp. of our planet's atmosphere has not risen...

Dont ask them about numbers.

Why is it that the knee jerk by conservatives was
first, the earth's atmosphere is not getting hotter.
Followed by, ok, its getting hotter, but its not our fault.

It would have more convincing and consistent if conservatives
would have just said its rising but its not our fault.

And yes we all know about the cycles of warm periods followed
by ice ages. Something is speeding this up apparently.