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The_Wizard 06-04-2006 07:14 AM

(Sun) The Wizard's Crystal Ball Sees............
 
After giving out a $933 Pick 4 yesterday and a $29 winner and the late double at Belmont, the Wizard's Crystal Ball sees the Number #5 at Belmont today.


Race 1 #5 Verkhotina (100WP)

Race 2 #5 Pretty Sarah (50WP)

Race 5 #5 Mrs. Chippy (200WP)

Race 7 #5 No Reason (100WP)

Race 9 #5 With Affirmation (50WP)


Good Luck. THE WIZARD.

Thunder Gulch 06-04-2006 08:17 AM

Nice capping....now lose the third person references to your internet name. I feel like I'm in the Seinfield episode reading your posts "Jimmy's gonna get you Kramer"..."George likes spicy chicken"

Cajungator26 06-04-2006 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch
Nice capping....now lose the third person references to your internet name. I feel like I'm in the Seinfield episode reading your posts "Jimmy's gonna get you Kramer"..."George likes spicy chicken"

LMAO... that is too funny. :D

Kasept 06-04-2006 08:24 AM

Buit is this the "real" Wizard..?
 
Don't mind the third person reference(s), but the Wiz should be advised that the original Wizard, Mike Kipness, has been using the moniker for a long time as well as "Crystal Ball"...

Unless "our" Wiz IS Mike Kipness who is probably the best capping service/sheet available, and he is handing out these nice bankers gratis!! Kipness' selections are available on BRISnet. He's PARTICULARY strong on "big" racing days like Belmont Day, Travers and Whitney Day, Breeders' Cup Day, etc..

Maybe we should hold a DT Contest to re-name our Wizard??

The Sorcerer? The Seer?

Thunder Gulch 06-04-2006 08:34 AM

I was going to say the same thing about the tout over at Brisnet..I have purchased his simulcast sheet when I go to the OTB to keep the action going, and he has thrown out some nice winners over time.

The_Wizard 06-04-2006 08:49 AM

This Wizard is far superior to any other Wizard (partially because I don't have to pick every race) but The Wizard will change his name, to keep the website out of trouble.

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 09:03 AM

Sundays picks from NOSTRADAMUS
 
Nostradamus sees the #5 doing well today at Belmont.


Race 1 #5 Verkhotina (100WP)

Race 2 #5 Pretty Sarah (50WP)

Race 5 #5 Mrs. Chippy (200WP)

Race 7 #5 No Reason (100WP)

Race 9 #5 With Affirmation (50WP)


Good Luck. Nostradamus formerly THE WIZARD.

oracle80 06-04-2006 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Nostradamus sees the #5 doing well today at Belmont.


Race 1 #5 Verkhotina (100WP)

Race 2 #5 Pretty Sarah (50WP)

Race 5 #5 Mrs. Chippy (200WP)

Race 7 #5 No Reason (100WP)

Race 9 #5 With Affirmation (50WP)


Good Luck. Nostradamus formerly THE WIZARD.


Good luck Albetty.

oracle80 06-04-2006 09:19 AM

By the way what kind of "seer" gives out bets before knowing track conditions and whether or not races are on or off he grass?
Serious question here, do you know the track conditions for today and which races are on or off the grass? I'd really appreciate the info.

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
Good luck Albetty.

I am not Albetty. Tough luck with your Churchill Pick 4. You should have listened to Nostradamus. Nostradamus is no longer going to post his pick 4's and 6's though so good luck to you and the others that play your picks.

oracle80 06-04-2006 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus
I am not Albetty. Tough luck with your Churchill Pick 4. You should have listened to Nostradamus. Nostradamus is no longer going to post his pick 4's and 6's though so good luck to you and the others that play your picks.


Albetty the others on the board including you took credit for you being teh wizard. You also post the same exact bets and amounts that you did on teh other site. You alos bragged about being teh wizard on the other site.
I'm just asking you , how can anyone post responsible informed selectiosn without knowing what surfaces the races will be run on and what the conditions will be? Seems to me that noone with a real opinion would do that. I know I would never do that. Thast just dart throwing, and we all know you will hit bullesyes if you throw enough darts.

oracle80 06-04-2006 09:25 AM

And you didnt answer my serious question, do you know what the track conditions are or what surfaces the races are gonna be run on? If you have this info I'm sure everyone would realy appreciate it.

oracle80 06-04-2006 09:26 AM

I only ask because I can't really make any selections or plays without knowing what surfaces and conditions the races will be run on. Its the most important thing you can know before you even attempt to analyze something.

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
Albetty the others on the board including you took credit for you being teh wizard. You also post the same exact bets and amounts that you did on teh other site. You alos bragged about being teh wizard on the other site.
I'm just asking you , how can anyone post responsible informed selectiosn without knowing what surfaces the races will be run on and what the conditions will be? Seems to me that noone with a real opinion would do that. I know I would never do that. Thast just dart throwing, and we all know you will hit bullesyes if you throw enough darts.

Look, for the 10th time, I am not Albetty. Just because my picks won and yours didn't doesn't give you a right to attack me. I gave out a $29 winner and a $933 pick 4 yesterday on this site. Where did somebody give out the exact same picks as me? I only posted them here. Either you are a liar or you are delusional. Give me the exact place where somebody gave out the 4 horses and the Pick 4 I gave out yesterday. As for my picks, I know everything about Belmont.

You seem to be the one throwing darts. I picked 4 horses yesterday, one won at $29 and another finished second, losing by a head. My pick 4 was the only pick 4 I selected, on the same thread as you. Mine won and paid $933 and yours lost. You started the entire thing when I made my first post by attacking me with your windex comment. Then you attacked me for using the all button. Maybe you should have used the all button yesterday, considering I had a pick 6 thanks to it and you lost.

Sorry that you aren't picking many winners but I make a few selections and stick with them. You seem to make thousands of picks. You might want to learn about discipline and money management.

oracle80 06-04-2006 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Look, for the 10th time, I am not Albetty. Just because my picks won and yours didn't doesn't give you a right to attack me. I gave out a $29 winner and a $933 pick 4 yesterday on this site. Where did somebody give out the exact same picks as me? I only posted them here. Either you are a liar or you are delusional. Give me the exact place where somebody gave out the 4 horses and the Pick 4 I gave out yesterday. As for my picks, I know everything about Belmont.

You seem to be the one throwing darts. I picked 4 horses yesterday, one won at $29 and another finished second, losing by a head. My pick 4 was the only pick 4 I selected, on the same thread as you. Mine won and paid $933 and yours lost. You started the entire thing when I made my first post by attacking me with your windex comment. Then you attacked me for using the all button. Maybe you should have used the all button yesterday, considering I had a pick 6 thanks to it and you lost.

Sorry that you aren't picking many winners but I make a few selections and stick with them. You seem to make thousands of picks. You might want to learn about discipline and money management.

LOL!!! I gave out winners every day, nice ones, and all best bets won yesterday.
I'm just asking a seriosu question. How can anyone claim to be sharp who posts selections without knowing track conditions and what surface they are racing on?
You still love Verkhotina in the mud? And Mrs Chippy is in the 4th race, not the 5th. Do you still like With Affirmation in the last race in the mud?

It just seems as if that someone who really knew what they were doing would at least know what surface and conditions the horses they were playing or touting weer actully running on or what race they were in. But don't let me bother you will "small" details like that.

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
And you didnt answer my serious question, do you know what the track conditions are or what surfaces the races are gonna be run on? If you have this info I'm sure everyone would realy appreciate it.

Do the DRF people make their selections a day in advance? Why would Nostradamus need to know anything in advance. Do you know who Nostradamus is?

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
LOL!!! I gave out winners every day, nice ones, and all best bets won yesterday.
I'm just asking a seriosu question. How can anyone claim to be sharp who posts selections without knowing track conditions and what surface they are racing on?
You still love Verkhotina in the mud? And Mrs Chippy is in the 4th race, not the 5th. Do you still like With Affirmation in the last race in the mud?

It just seems as if that someone who really knew what they were doing would at least know what surface and conditions the horses they were playing or touting weer actully running on or what race they were in. But don't let me bother you will "small" details like that.

I am not saying you aren't a good handicapper but you would have lost money if you bet on your picks yesterday. Name your winners yesterday. Why do you care how I pick horses? I have a feeling you are going to use your picks anyway.

Again, are you a liar or delusional. What other website had my 4 picks yesterday and my pick 4. I gave out 4 horses at Belmont and 1 pick 4 here yesterday. That was it. One horse won easily and paid $29 and my pick 4 won and paid $933. Fortunately for me I also had the pick 6. Again, I would like to see where else my picks showed up.

oracle80 06-04-2006 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Do the DRF people make their selections a day in advance? Why would Nostradamus need to know anything in advance. Do you know who Nostradamus is?


I guess the real Nostradamus would have known that the track was muddy and that there was no turf racing and not to select horses like Verkhotina and that can't stand up in the mud.

oracle80 06-04-2006 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus
I am not saying you aren't a good handicapper but you would have lost money if you bet on your picks yesterday. Name your winners yesterday. Why do you care how I pick horses? I have a feeling you are going to use your picks anyway.

Again, are you a liar or delusional. What other website had my 4 picks yesterday and my pick 4. I gave out 4 horses at Belmont and 1 pick 4 here yesterday. That was it. One horse won easily and paid $29 and my pick 4 won and paid $933. Fortunately for me I also had the pick 6. Again, I would like to see where else my picks showed up.


Thats the thing, you are just a liar.
The first belmont pik-4 that I gave out contained the winners on the core ticket and three presses. that means that you woudl have had it 4 times. Since it was a very cheap bet to make, thast over 900 dollars right there.
I also said that I loved Joint Effort and that the only other horse i could see was Pletchesr. Lost of guys pounded that one and messaged me to thank me. As far as cold? I told everyone about Westren revenge. I know you are Albetty, and you are distorting the truth and lying with an agenda. You are completely full of it. OR you can't read and comprehend. Which one is it?

oracle80 06-04-2006 09:52 AM

Do you even know what a press is? Its very basic betting terminology that means you go back and "press" a certain horse for extra, in the case of pik-'s meaning you then play another ticket using only that horse.
Like I asked, which one is it, because anyone who read my stuff yesterday can clearly see that I absolutely hammered the pik-4 yesterday at Belmont that paid over 230 bucks, multiple times on very cheap tickets.
On my own, the pik-3 that ended with Joint was killed, and the one that ended with Foggy was killed as well. In addition I was talking up Joint Effort for two days and the win bet and exacta weer absolute cinches taht got murdered as well. I really hate liars, always have.

Cajungator26 06-04-2006 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
Thats the thing, you are just a liar.
The first belmont pik-4 that I gave out contained the winners on the core ticket and three presses. that means that you woudl have had it 4 times. Since it was a very cheap bet to make, thast over 900 dollars right there.
I also said that I loved Joint Effort and that the only other horse i could see was Pletchesr. Lost of guys pounded that one and messaged me to thank me. As far as cold? I told everyone about Westren revenge. I know you are Albetty, and you are distorting the truth and lying with an agenda. You are completely full of it. OR you can't read and comprehend. Which one is it?


Mike, I would say that it's a fair assumption to assume that he is 1.) Completely full of it and 2.) Can't read or comprehend. He seems to be lacking in both areas.

oracle80 06-04-2006 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Mike, I would say that it's a fair assumption to assume that he is 1.) Completely full of it and 2.) Can't read or comprehend. He seems to be lacking in both areas.


Cajun go to the Espn board and look up Albetty's most recent posts. he clearly proclaims to be the "pinball wizard" and says he will return over there. Then yesterday his buddy proclaims him to be the wizard. I hate cowards, just say who you are, I always have. He also makes teh exact same bets here and demoniations he always made over there when posting bets. My question is what are the chances of coiincidence? Couple that with his absolute lies about what I have produced, I mean, what are the odds?

Cajungator26 06-04-2006 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
Cajun go to the Espn board and look up Albetty's most recent posts. he clearly proclaims to be the "pinball wizard" and says he will return over there. Then yesterday his buddy proclaims him to be the wizard. I hate cowards, just say who you are, I always have. He also makes teh exact same bets here and demoniations he always made over there when posting bets. My question is what are the chances of coiincidence? Couple that with his absolute lies about what I have produced, I mean, what are the odds?

I've seen the posts over there, and I agree with you. I don't understand what he has to gain by lying. He was a needle over there and he's a needle over here. He might as well fess up to it.

oracle80 06-04-2006 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I've seen the posts over there, and I agree with you. I don't understand what he has to gain by lying. He was a needle over there and he's a needle over here. He might as well fess up to it.


Well that guy was gonna show me what was what down in Ky. said he saw me but that I looked busy so he didnt approach. His tune sure changed when he saw the guys I was with. hes not stupid, I'll give him that.

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 10:17 AM

Ok. I am buying a hat from Steve this week. When he gets my money and has postage from NY on it, is that going to be enough to prove I am not this guy you say I am. Did he normally give out $29 horses and $933 pick 4's. Not everyone here is from ESPN. Go to attheracesandbeyond.com, click on handicapping and there is a link. Paranoid people.

oracle80 06-04-2006 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Ok. I am buying a hat from Steve this week. When he gets my money and has postage from NY on it, is that going to be enough to prove I am not this guy you say I am. Did he normally give out $29 horses and $933 pick 4's. Not everyone here is from ESPN. Go to attheracesandbeyond.com, click on handicapping and there is a link. Paranoid people.


You've just been nailed on the other thread, I posted the links, games up. Why not just say who you are? You already admitted lying about me, what else do you lie about?

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 10:26 AM

Bet for Oracle
 
Oracle keeps calling me Albetty, so here is the bet

I will bet $1000 to Oracle's $100 that I am not Albetty. All the proof will have to come from me.

IS THAT A BET ORACLE. Just to let you know, I am red hot right now, with my winners over the last few days. Would love to make an easy $100. You can pay me on 7/25 at Saratoga.

oracle80 06-04-2006 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Oracle keeps calling me Albetty, so here is the bet

I will bet $1000 to Oracle's $100 that I am not Albetty. All the proof will have to come from me.

IS THAT A BET ORACLE. Just to let you know, I am red hot right now, with my winners over the last few days. Would love to make an easy $100. You can pay me on 7/25 at Saratoga.


There is no way to prove that successfully, on either side. I put out the evidence, so that others know. Thast whats important. Good luck with those grass horses in the mud today, peace out!!!

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oracle80
There is no way to prove that successfully, on either side. I put out the evidence, so that others know. Thast whats important. Good luck with those grass horses in the mud today, peace out!!!

I can easily prove it. Are you not taking the bet? Coward.

oracle80 06-04-2006 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus
I can easily prove it. Are you not taking the bet? Coward.

So you are gonna get the address of a guy you supposedly don't Know? How does that work exactly? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 10:36 AM

Oracle v Nostradamus Saratoga Contest
 
I have challenged Oracle to a Saratoga Contest. He wants head to head and $2500 each. Steve Byk will hold the money if he agrees to that. I will be up there on 7/25. I am not Albetty and will prove it when I get there. In fact I will send something to Steve this week to prove it. I know Oracle will not weasel out of this because he would look like a coward in front of the board. I propose we put our picks on this site each day, so Oracle can't come up with excuses.

oracle80 06-04-2006 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostradamus
I have challenged Oracle to a Saratoga Contest. He wants head to head and $2500 each. Steve Byk will hold the money if he agrees to that. I will be up there on 7/25. I am not Albetty and will prove it when I get there. In fact I will send something to Steve this week to prove it. I know Oracle will not weasel out of this because he would look like a coward in front of the board. I propose we put our picks on this site each day, so Oracle can't come up with excuses.


I will not be at the computer come August, I will be at the track each morning and afternoon into evening. I have no time to post that each day. ANything done with me will be doen in person, like gentlemen.
I would now ask you to contact me, and not waste the boards space with your obvios lies and vendetta. This boadr has a personal messgae feature. I will be happy to converse with you there an give you my address, email and phone number. I will expcet you to do the same, unless its you who turn out to be the weasel.

Scav 06-04-2006 10:41 AM

This is getting good....

Sidebets will be taken on this....

right now, since Oracle is at home for this event....Since I am setting the line...

Oracle -130 vs Nostradamus +110

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 10:41 AM

Fine. I will be there all summer, except one week. You can make the picks and I will make mine and I will use my laptop to post them, or better yet Steve can do it for a 5% fee. Sound good?

Scav 06-04-2006 10:42 AM

Line just dropped to -120/+100 from a huge bet from Hooves

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
This is getting good....

Sidebets will be taken on this....

right now, since Oracle is at home for this event....Since I am setting the line...

Oracle -130 vs Nostradamus +110

I think that is fair, but all the NYRA tracks are my home tracks. Do you think NTRA/DRF rules are a good way to go?

Scav 06-04-2006 10:55 AM

It is hard to use NTRA/DRF rules for something like this. I would say you get three win bets a day, you keep a record. Use total winners as the tiebreaker if for some reason you guys have the same amount of cash.

You can either do that, or have a $1,000 bankroll and have at it, anything goes, but you would have to put maxes on exotic payoffs.

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 10:58 AM

I just sent Oracle an instant message. I posted on ESPN a few times under Bold Ruler, but I am not Nostradamus, but he is sitting right next to me. He is just a college student that listens to the radio show. What is the big deal, he makes picks on the site. Why are people bothering him? He is a really good handicapper. We are think of actually getting him his own sheet. Should be a fun contest.

Bold Ruler

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
It is hard to use NTRA/DRF rules for something like this. I would say you get three win bets a day, you keep a record. Use total winners as the tiebreaker if for some reason you guys have the same amount of cash.

You can either do that, or have a $1,000 bankroll and have at it, anything goes, but you would have to put maxes on exotic payoffs.


My brother's friend just cleared it up. I like the $1000 bankroll idea. Just like in the post and dailynews. Is that it then?

Nostradamus 06-04-2006 11:08 AM

Kevin said he took care of it, so he will give you my money. If you look at my posts you will see I did nothing but make picks and you attacked me. I am definitely not who you said, but will gladly take your $2500.


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