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dalakhani 05-22-2009 06:45 PM

Has Carmello Anthony stepped up his game offensively in the Lakers series?
 
Im curious what everyone else thinks?

My contention is that he has. If anyone wants to see the stats i can post a link.

Cannon Shell says that he hasnt stepped it up offensively.

Cannon Shell 05-22-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Im curious what everyone else thinks?

My contention is that he has. If anyone wants to see the stats i can post a link.

Cannon Shell says that he hasnt stepped it up offensively.

No my contention is that he is playing offensively the same way he always does. he took 29 shots last night to get 34 points. That is as typical Carmello Anthony as you can get. He has been much more active on the other end but you seem to have a problem recognizing defensive matchups.

dalakhani 05-22-2009 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
No my contention is that he is playing offensively the same way he always does. he took 29 shots last night to get 34 points. That is as typical Carmello Anthony as you can get. He has been much more active on the other end but you seem to have a problem recognizing defensive matchups.

Shall we look at the stats Charles?

Cannon Shell 05-22-2009 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Shall we look at the stats Charles?

He was 12 for 29 from the field and 0 for 6 from the three point line. He had 9 rebounds and 4 assists. He was 10-14 from the foul line. This was last night. How is this much different than his usual game during the course of his NBA career other than he played 44 minutes which is about 1/2 a quarter more than he usually plays? That is the entire reason that the numbers have edged up a bit, more minutes. It is hard to believe that anyone who watches basketball would have not noticed that his defensive intensity was the major change in his game, not offense.

dalakhani 05-22-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He was 12 for 29 from the field and 0 for 6 from the three point line. He had 9 rebounds and 4 assists. He was 10-14 from the foul line. This was last night. How is this much different than his usual game during the course of his NBA career other than he played 44 minutes which is about 1/2 a quarter more than he usually plays? That is the entire reason that the numbers have edged up a bit, more minutes. It is hard to believe that anyone who watches basketball would have not noticed that his defensive intensity was the major change in his game, not offense.

LOL. You want to take one night and not use both games? Or the entire playoffs for that matter?

Dont try to be slick and change the argument again chuck. I dont deny that his defense has been huge and a BIG step up. My contention is that his offense has stepped up as well and you disagree...rather pointlessly.

Melo has played extremely well defensively and better than i have ever seen him play. When did i say differently?

Cannon Shell 05-22-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
LOL. You want to take one night and not use both games? Or the entire playoffs for that matter?

Dont try to be slick and change the argument again chuck. I dont deny that his defense has been huge and a BIG step up. My contention is that his offense has stepped up as well and you disagree...rather pointlessly.

Melo has played extremely well defensively and better than i have ever seen him play. When did i say differently?

He is simply playing more minutes and in games that are being played in the 100's. They only played 2 games and last night he was his typical self on offense. Talking about his offense when his defense is obviously the biggest factor in the series is a bit unusual. He is an offensive force, always has been. He is doing nothing differently offensively than he ever has.

dalakhani 05-22-2009 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He is simply playing more minutes and in games that are being played in the 100's. They only played 2 games and last night he was his typical self on offense. Talking about his offense when his defense is obviously the biggest factor in the series is a bit unusual. He is an offensive force, always has been. He is doing nothing differently offensively than he ever has.

He is shooting a higher percentage from 3 point line and the field. No?

He is averaging more points. N0?

Cannon Shell 05-22-2009 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
He is shooting a higher percentage from 3 point line and the field. No?

He is averaging more points. N0?

Averages in 2 games are meaningless especially when you consider he was 0 for 6 on 3 point shots yesterday. If you play more minutes you will average more points.

dalakhani 05-22-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Averages in 2 games are meaningless especially when you consider he was 0 for 6 on 3 point shots yesterday. If you play more minutes you will average more points.

No, in the entire playoffs he is shooting better from 3 pts and field.

Cannon Shell 05-22-2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
No, in the entire playoffs he is shooting better from 3 pts and field.

They havent played the Lakers the entire playoffs though that would have been interesting if they went to a best of 15 game series format.

Why does every sporting event now play Neil Diamond?

dalakhani 05-22-2009 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
They havent played the Lakers the entire playoffs though that would have been interesting if they went to a best of 15 game series format.

Why does every sporting event now play Neil Diamond?

No my contention is that he is stepping it up in the playoffs. He stepped it up offsensively. What ever the reason is, and there are many, he is playing better on both sides of the floor and stats back it up.

Interesting that kobe is quote as saying carmello is stronger than lebron

Cannon Shell 05-23-2009 10:35 PM

Carmello vs the Lakers offensively

game 1 - great
game 2- typical
game 3- not so great

so far = typical

dalakhani 05-24-2009 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Carmello vs the Lakers offensively

game 1 - great
game 2- typical
game 3- not so great

so far = typical

They made adjustments in game 3. As I said, I was talking about the whole playoffs and the stats back that up. Last night was one game. Again, do you want me to post the stats?

Cannon Shell 05-24-2009 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
They made adjustments in game 3. As I said, I was talking about the whole playoffs and the stats back that up. Last night was one game. Again, do you want me to post the stats?

Yeah they made adjustments, he got in foul trouble...

dalakhani 05-24-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Yeah they made adjustments, he got in foul trouble...

Foul trouble made him shoot like that. LOL

Cannon Shell 05-24-2009 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Foul trouble made him shoot like that. LOL

No he missed open shots. He didnt shoot very well the night before you made this declaration. I suppose the LeBron missing every jumper tonight was Orlando's defense?

dalakhani 05-24-2009 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
No he missed open shots. He didnt shoot very well the night before you made this declaration. I suppose the LeBron missing every jumper tonight was Orlando's defense?

we arent talking about lebron, we are talking about carmello anthony and im still trying to figure out what how foul trouble has anything to do with shooting percentage.

Cannon Shell 05-24-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
we arent talking about lebron, we are talking about carmello anthony and im still trying to figure out what how foul trouble has anything to do with shooting percentage.

They didnt stop him, he shoot poorly. Once he got in foul trouble he wasnt nearly as aggressive going to the hole and settled for jumpers. Perhaps you can figure out layups are higher percentage shots than jumpers?

dalakhani 05-24-2009 10:28 PM

LOL Carmelo got to the line 14 times last game...the same number of times as the game before.

try again.

Cannon Shell 05-24-2009 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
LOL Carmelo got to the line 14 times last game...the same number of times as the game before.

try again.

What does that have to do with anything? How many were in the first half before he was in foul trouble? Dont you watch the games? Try again? How many times do you have to be off the mark before you admit it? Or are you like a shooter, shoot your way through a slump. You are shooting yourself in the foot through your slump. The Doug Collins slobberfest alone was a shameful enough decision.

dalakhani 05-24-2009 10:47 PM

[quote=Cannon Shell]What does that have to do with anything? How many were in the first half before he was in foul trouble? Dont you watch the games? Try again? How many times do you have to be off the mark before you admit it? Or are you like a shooter, shoot your way through a slump. You are shooting yourself in the foot through your slump. The Doug Collins slobberfest alone was a shameful enough decision.[/QUOTE

I like the attack when backed into the corner charles. Very nice. LOL

How do you go to the line 14 TIMES and be unaggressive as you claim? Do YOU watch the game? Let me rephrase that...Do you understand what you are watching?

My offer of letting you into class still stands. You obviously need to start with the remedial lesson.

dalakhani 05-24-2009 11:06 PM

From Carmello Anthony's own mouth on what happened game 3:

"they made some adjustments"


According to Cannon, they were doing the same things. So i guess Carmello Anthony doesnt recognize defensive adjustments and they were just a figment of his imagination?

You should probably throw that white flag back up again.

pgardn 05-25-2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
From Carmello Anthony's own mouth on what happened game 3:

"they made some adjustments"


According to Cannon, they were doing the same things. So i guess Carmello Anthony doesnt recognize defensive adjustments and they were just a figment of his imagination?

You should probably throw that white flag back up again.

Apparently Carmello did not fully recognize the adjustments.
A guy who steps up his game would adjust to the adjustments.



Tag your it.
I think this is what you guys are playing.

dalakhani 05-25-2009 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Apparently Carmello did not fully recognize the adjustments.
A guy who steps up his game would adjust to the adjustments.



Tag your it.
I think this is what you guys are playing.

it was fun though. I agree. Next subject.

pgardn 05-25-2009 09:05 PM

One thing we might all have in common.
The beauty of basketball.

We can trash all of these guys but
they are such incredible athletes.
Sit on the floor, or get lucky enough
to see practices. These guys are amazing.
Akin to watching horses run.

Cannon Shell 05-26-2009 07:12 AM

If Carmello steps his offensive game up any further in this series he will find himself as the worlds most expensive decoy....

dalakhani 05-26-2009 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
If Carmello steps his offensive game up any further in this series he will find himself as the worlds most expensive decoy....

Adjustments. Take away carmello, you have to give something else up. Must have worked because they won.

docicu3 05-26-2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
If Carmello steps his offensive game up any further in this series he will find himself as the worlds most expensive decoy....


Is he hurt, sick or in need of a heart transplant? "Adustments" didn't seem to explain it all..

Cannon Shell 05-26-2009 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Is he hurt, sick or in need of a heart transplant? "Adustments" didn't seem to explain it all..

Bounced off of gme 1
ran a -6
came back quick in game 2 with his typical -1 then reacted off of the two hard efforts on short rest with a 3 and really regressed last night with a 9.
Jerry brown says look for him to bounce back to a -1 off the non effort. He will then promptly sue the Nuggets for playoff royalties and speak to David Stern about a more stringent milkshake policy.

Antitrust32 05-26-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Is he hurt, sick or in need of a heart transplant? "Adustments" didn't seem to explain it all..


he was sick... they said during the game that he threw up before the game... and he also tweaked his ankle during the game so the man was for sure not 100%

dalakhani 05-26-2009 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Bounced off of gme 1
ran a -6
came back quick in game 2 with his typical -1 then reacted off of the two hard efforts on short rest with a 3 and really regressed last night with a 9.
Jerry brown says look for him to bounce back to a -1 off the non effort. He will then promptly sue the Nuggets for playoff royalties and speak to David Stern about a more stringent milkshake policy.

:p quarter crack...they are patching him up and he will be ready for tuesday!

Antitrust32 05-26-2009 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
:p quarter crack...they are patching him up and he will be ready for tuesday!


wednesday actually.


Do you still think Denver has absolutely no chance against the Lakers?

SniperSB23 05-26-2009 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
wednesday actually.


Do you still think Denver has absolutely no chance against the Lakers?

If they could just inbound the ball the series would be over already.

Antitrust32 05-26-2009 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
If they could just inbound the ball the series would be over already.


exactly.. 2 poor decisions away from a 4 game sweep.

For some reason now that we've talked about this Lakers will now go on and win game 5 & 6.

But to be honest I see the Nuggets winning in 6 way before I see the Lakers winning in 6... and I really hope Denver brings the game they brought last night to the Staple's Center on Wednesday.

dalakhani 05-26-2009 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
wednesday actually.


Do you still think Denver has absolutely no chance against the Lakers?

You guys were right and i was 1000% wrong about this team. Regardless of the outcome of the bet, the nuggets have played much better than I ever imagined.

Antitrust32 05-26-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
You guys were right and i was 1000% wrong about this team. Regardless of the outcome of the bet, the nuggets have played much better than I ever imagined.


The team really came together this post season. Its really nice to see because it is just so hard not to love Melo... and I'm just so sick of Kobe!!

I really hope they keep playing well and take down the lakers.

Melo is easily a top 5 talent in this league and to be honest I think he's the 3rd best basketball player out there... behind James and Bryant of course.

Cannon Shell 05-26-2009 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
exactly.. 2 poor decisions away from a 4 game sweep.

For some reason now that we've talked about this Lakers will now go on and win game 5 & 6.

But to be honest I see the Nuggets winning in 6 way before I see the Lakers winning in 6... and I really hope Denver brings the game they brought last night to the Staple's Center on Wednesday.

everybody wins in a 6 way...

dalakhani 05-27-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
everybody wins in a 6 way...

Okay, i finally get this. :tro:LOL

Cannon Shell 05-27-2009 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Okay, i finally get this. :tro:LOL

Jesus, 24 hours.....

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-27-2009 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Bounced off of gme 1
ran a -6
came back quick in game 2 with his typical -1 then reacted off of the two hard efforts on short rest with a 3 and really regressed last night with a 9.
Jerry brown says look for him to bounce back to a -1 off the non effort. He will then promptly sue the Nuggets for playoff royalties and speak to David Stern about a more stringent milkshake policy.

:tro: :tro: :tro:


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