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Kasept 05-18-2009 09:05 AM

Met Mile Probables/Possibles
 
Met Mile Probables/Possibles:

Mr. Sidney
Bribon (FR)
Driven by Success
Mr. Fantasy
Runforthedoe (BRZ)
Smooth Air
The Roundhouse

My Pal Charlie
Commentator
Formidable
Imperial Council
Riley Tucker
This Ones For Phil

PPerfectfan 05-18-2009 09:22 AM

I thought I heard Al Stall say My Pal Charlie was gonna run in this spot when they interviewed him about Terrain Saturday.

Kasept 05-18-2009 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
I thought I heard Al Stall say My Pal Charlie was gonna run in this spot when they interviewed him about Terrain Saturday.

Cool.. I put him on the list. Nominations/Weight Assigns come out Wednesday.

cakes44 05-18-2009 10:27 AM

I hope all three of those 3-year-olds run and run well. That would hopefully lead other trainers/owners to think outside the box a little in the future instead of pushing fast, distance limited horses through the TC races.

That being said, I think Imperial Council would be out of his league here.

CSC 05-18-2009 10:39 AM

Interesting what has become of Harlem Rocker? This race would have been a fit.

tiggerv 05-18-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Interesting what has become of Harlem Rocker? This race would have been a fit.

Still recovering from colic I think. Not sure he is even in training yet.

CSC 05-18-2009 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv
Still recovering from colic I think. Not sure he is even in training yet.

Thnx, I always liked him...I'm still recovering over his quesionable DQ last year when TOE''s number was put up. :mad:

Linny 05-18-2009 01:00 PM

Looks like it might be a fun race. I might take a day trip down there for that.

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2009 01:02 PM

I think Two Step Salsa is running as well.

kgar311 05-18-2009 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC
Thnx, I always liked him...I'm still recovering over his quesionable DQ last year when TOE''s number was put up. :mad:

How do you think I felt about the DQ I had $100 to win on him. :zz:

NTamm1215 05-18-2009 01:14 PM

I had a win bet on Harlem Rocker and thought the right call was made.

NT

CSC 05-18-2009 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I had a win bet on Harlem Rocker and thought the right call was made.

NT

I think we are bound to disagree on everything. ;)

kgar311 05-18-2009 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I had a win bet on Harlem Rocker and thought the right call was made.

NT

You my friend are in the minority

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
You my friend are in the minority

He's in the majority of people that are able to take an unbiased view of the race.

CSC 05-18-2009 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
How do you think I felt about the DQ I had $100 to win on him. :zz:

I thought it was 60/40 they would decide on keeping him up, I think at the time I cited some non Dq's in particular a Contessa horse not getting the benefit of the call the same week before the race that was worse in my opinion. That if anything that fustrated me more as I had made a case for HR all year and to have him finally deliver at a price, it was well...quite dissapointing.:zz:

kgar311 05-18-2009 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
He's in the majority of people that are able to take an unbiased view of the race.

Its not a bias opinon when the horse that gets put up was already passed and had no shot of winning the race. If anything it woke the horse up when HR came over and gave him a kiss.

NTamm1215 05-18-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
Its not a bias opinon when the horse that gets put up was already passed and had no shot of winning the race. If anything it woke the horse up when HR came over and gave him a kiss.

So far today you've said that Street Sense won the '07 Travers by a measured half-length and then this gem. Is there any possibility of an encore?

NT

kgar311 05-18-2009 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
So far today you've said that Street Sense won the '07 Travers by a measured half-length and then this gem. Is there any possibility of an encore?

NT

Street sense was never in danger of losing that race and Ekati was asleep at the wheel when Harlem Rocker blew by him in the stretch, NO WAY IN HELL TALE OF EKATI WINS THAT RACE IF HE WAS NOT INTERFERED WITH. If anything it cost HR winning by open lengths. The DQ was a complete joke.

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
So far today you've said that Street Sense won the '07 Travers by a measured half-length and then this gem. Is there any possibility of an encore?

NT


Maybe Mine That Bird was best in the Preakness?

kgar311 05-18-2009 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Maybe Mine That Bird was best in the Preakness?


I never said that but ill say this, if Musket Man didnt check down on the rail around the far turn and lose 2-3 lengths I think RA would of had some real competition at the wire. You figure while she was getting the jump on them MM was having trouble getting through on the rail and still only lost by a length.

10 pnt move up 05-18-2009 02:07 PM

I wanted to see Matto Mondo in this race...oh well I am sure he can labor again to a third in the Shoemaker on grass.

cakes44 05-18-2009 02:08 PM

MM lost by more than a length didn't he?

kgar311 05-18-2009 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cakes44
MM lost by more than a length didn't he?

I think we could call it a length and a half. But do the math, losses three on the turn, on the rail which was completely dead, loses by length and a half. If he was rolling on the turn he may have won the race.

Danzig 05-18-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
I think we could call it a length and a half. But do the math, losses three on the turn, on the rail which was completely dead, loses by length and a half. If he was rolling on the turn he may have won the race.

or maybe not. the best horse won. musket man will win others, but i think the longer distances are what cost him in these last two-that and stiffer competition.

Indian Charlie 05-18-2009 02:30 PM

If RA had been able to go the half in 49, she'd have won for fun!

Danzig 05-18-2009 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
If RA had been able to go the half in 49, she'd have won for fun!


considering how the race unfolded, i thought rachel did just fine. someone wrote that the oaks was her best race, i thought saturday was. she had company throughout, and still prevailed while those who tried to run with her early all faded.

Indian Charlie 05-18-2009 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
considering how the race unfolded, i thought rachel did just fine. someone wrote that the oaks was her best race, i thought saturday was. she had company throughout, and still prevailed while those who tried to run with her early all faded.


I just said that because of that one guy who keeps going on about Musket Man losing 3 lengths due to trouble, and how that would have enabled him to win.

Danzig 05-18-2009 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I just said that because of that one guy who keeps going on about Musket Man losing 3 lengths due to trouble, and how that would have enabled him to win.

yeah, i know. i'm surprised i didn't read a lot about MM being six wide in the derby coming 'round the far turn.

but the big shock is how quiet things suddenly got regarding POTN.

kgar311 05-18-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I just said that because of that one guy who keeps going on about Musket Man losing 3 lengths due to trouble, and how that would have enabled him to win.

You must of been sleeping during the race.

Indian Charlie 05-18-2009 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
You must of been sleeping during the race.

Yep.

I was sleeping at the same part of the race that you were, when RA went 46.

NTamm1215 05-18-2009 03:10 PM

I can't believe we're talking about a horse that was beaten handily and had one of the all-time perfect inside-out trips behind a scorching pace, had dead aim with 3/16ths to go and couldn't get up.

NT

10 pnt move up 05-18-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I can't believe we're talking about a horse that was beaten handily and had one of the all-time perfect inside-out trips behind a scorching pace, had dead aim with 3/16ths to go and couldn't get up.

NT

agree

kgar311 05-18-2009 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215
I can't believe we're talking about a horse that was beaten handily and had one of the all-time perfect inside-out trips behind a scorching pace, had dead aim with 3/16ths to go and couldn't get up.

NT

I emplore all of you to go back and watch the race in the turn and watch Coa lose all momentum and 3 lengths to boot only to have to rev him back up on a dead rail. I wouldnt call that a dream trip

the_fat_man 05-18-2009 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311
I emplore all of you to go back and watch the race in the turn and watch Coa lose all momentum and 3 lengths to boot only to have to rev him back up on a dead rail. I wouldnt call that a dream trip

Yo

Here are a number of options:

1) Go to the Beyers thread and read DrugS comments about the dynamics of the Preakness.

2) Stop following Eric Donovan, when it comes to interpreting races

3) Stop following your friend Gales, when it comes to arguing about trips.

The above in combination

OR

4) Keep thinking that your way is the correct way

Handicappy 05-18-2009 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Yo

Here are a number of options:

1) Go to the Beyers thread and read DrugS comments about the dynamics of the Preakness.

2) Stop following Eric Donovan, when it comes to interpreting races

3) Stop following your friend Gales, when it comes to arguing about trips.

The above in combination

OR

4) Keep thinking that your way is the correct way

I'll take number 2. Guy makes me crazy in the way he almost always says absolutely nothing. And to think he sets the ml odds for NYRA! Andy and Jason play off each other very well.

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Handicappy
I'll take number 2. Guy makes me crazy in the way he almost always says absolutely nothing. And to think he sets the ml odds for NYRA! Andy and Jason play off each other very well.


What exactly are the handicapping skills you have demonstrated here to think you have put yourself in a position of strength to criticize anyone....much less someone like Eric Donovan?

I tell you what, how about you make your own ML, and we'll compare it to Eric's?

Bigsmc 05-18-2009 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Yo

Here are a number of options:

1) Go to the Beyers thread and read DrugS comments about the dynamics of the Preakness.

2) Stop following Eric Donovan, when it comes to interpreting races

3) Stop following your friend Gales, when it comes to arguing about trips.

The above in combination

OR

4) Keep thinking that your way is the correct way

As a horseplayer, I LOVE #4.

kgar311 05-18-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Yo

Here are a number of options:

1) Go to the Beyers thread and read DrugS comments about the dynamics of the Preakness.

2) Stop following Eric Donovan, when it comes to interpreting races

3) Stop following your friend Gales, when it comes to arguing about trips.

The above in combination

OR

4) Keep thinking that your way is the correct way


Hey fat boy, for your information I follow none of those chumps that claim to be handicappers at nyra, i couldnt even tell you what eric donavan looks like, im more or less a weekend warrior seeing how I have a 9-5 m-f.
And as far as youR #3 comment, I hope you listen to ATR tonight when Coa was on there and said THE SAME EXACT THING AS I DID ABOUT THE HORSES TRIP...DOUCHE. Lost all momentum at the 3/8ths and had to get going again.
My way is right and I would challange anyone to a hanicapping contest on here any day of the week or weekend would be better for me.

blackthroatedwind 05-18-2009 07:01 PM

Where's PG when you need him?


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