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Kasept 05-17-2009 11:36 AM

Belmont Stakes Field
 
Anticipated field for Belmont 141:

1. Brave Victory
Nick Zito
Rajiv Maragh
Robert V. LaPenta

2. Charitable Man
Kiaran McLaughlin
Alan Garcia
Mr. & Mrs. William K. Warren Jr.

3. Chocolate Candy
Jerry Hollendorfer
Garrett Gomez
Craig Family Trust

4. Dunkirk
Todd Pletcher
John Velazquez
Mrs. John Magnier, Michael Tabor, & Derrick Smith

5. Flying Private
D. Wayne Lukas
Julien Leparoux
Robert C. Baker & William L. Mack

6. Luv Gov
D.Wayne Lukas
Miguel Mena
Marylou Whitney Stables

7. Miner’s Escape
Nick Zito
Jose Lezcano
Robert V. LaPenta

8. Mine That Bird
Chip Woolley
Calvin Borel
Double Eagle Ranch & Buena Suerte Equine

9. Mr. Hot Stuff
Eoin Harty
Edgar Prado
WinStar Farm LLC

10. Summer Bird
Tim Ice
Kent Desormeaux
Kalarikkal & Vilasini Jayaraman

RolloTomasi 05-18-2009 05:32 PM

Didn't Team Valor purchase some horse in Europe specifically with this race in mind?

brockguy 05-18-2009 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
Didn't Team Valor purchase some horse in Europe specifically with this race in mind?

Gitano Hernando

RolloTomasi 05-18-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Gitano Hernando

Thanks, but:

Gitano Hernando to miss Belmont

One horse withdrawn from consideration for the Belmont is the European-based Gitano Hernando, who finished second in the Dee Stakes in England on May 8. According to Barry Irwin, head of the Team Valor International syndicate which owns the horse, Gitano Hernando came out of the race lame.

"He will need to walk for about three weeks, which eliminates him from the [Belmont]," Irwin said. "We plan to point him for grass racing this summer on the East Coast."

letswastemoney 05-18-2009 10:41 PM

If that's the field, it looks like Rachel will be coasting along on the lead in a field full of stalkers and closers

-BT- 05-19-2009 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Potential Belmont Stakes starters updated 5.17.09:

Charitable Man* William K. Warren Kiaran McLaughlin

Chocolate Candy* Sid & Jenny Craig Trust Jerry Hollendorfer

Dunkirk* Mrs. John Magnier Todd Pletcher

Flying Private Baker & Mack D. Wayne Lukas

Luv Gov Marylou Whitney D. Wayne Lukas

Mine That Bird Double Eagle Ranch Bennie Woolley Jr.

Miner’s Escape* Robert LaPenta Nick Zito

Mr. Hot Stuff WinStar Farm Eoin Harty

Rachel Alexandra Jess Jackson Steve Asmussen

Summer Bird** K. & V. Jayaraman Tim Ice

* Stabled at Belmont
** Arrives Tuesday

luv gov seems pretty logical, i like the progression lukas is going through with this horse, there are obviously a lot harder N1X out there in the world today


-bt-

The Indomitable DrugS 05-19-2009 07:27 AM

Where is the Lone Star Derby winner going next?

Mike 05-19-2009 11:20 AM

I really would like Rachel A to run in the Belmont

Of course, I guess lately I've been a sucker for "the wise guy" pick, who in this case must be Charitable Man. We've get a 10 horse field, or so and Chocolate Candy,Dunkirk- a solid Triple Crown group right there with Rachel and Mine That Bird

NTamm1215 05-19-2009 11:25 AM

I think Charitable Man is going to be ridiculously overbet in the Belmont relative to what his odds should be and I'm not high on his chances to win the race at all.

NT

chucklestheclown 05-19-2009 08:59 PM

Dunkirk seems to have overcome his issues.

hurricanefrank 05-19-2009 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
If that's the field, it looks like Rachel will be coasting along on the lead in a field full of stalkers and closers

Totally agree with this. Makes me think back to what Swale was able to do on the chooch back in 1984.

chucklestheclown 05-19-2009 09:24 PM

To start, he's a sickly-looking, lightly-raced colt. His stride is suspect in his races and I think Prado did him no favors in the Derby. I assumed he skipped the Preakness to get straightened out.

Danzig 05-19-2009 10:38 PM

i just wrote a letter to the editor of the ark. democrat gazette. the idiot sportswriter, wally halll, had an article today saying rachel alexandra should retire, should rest on her laurels. that jackson should not 'put her in harms way'. she has 'nothing left to prove'. i wonder if they'll print my letter....

i suggested that perhaps it was really time for mr. hall to retire! that he apparently is advocating ending the sport entirely. bah what a moron.

blackthroatedwind 05-19-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i just wrote a letter to the editor of the ark. democrat gazette. the idiot sportswriter, wally halll, had an article today saying rachel alexandra should retire, should rest on her laurels. that jackson should not 'put her in harms way'. she has 'nothing left to prove'. i wonder if they'll print my letter....

i suggested that perhaps it was really time for mr. hall to retire! that he apparently is advocating ending the sport entirely. bah what a moron.



Do you know what name he uses to post here?

Danzig 05-19-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Do you know what name he uses to post here?


lol

as impossible as some are on here, no one stoops to halls level. i usually don't read him, but when i saw the title i figured what the heck. typical tripe from him.

Danzig 05-20-2009 07:54 AM

here's the dem-gazette article that set me off last night, it was linked on equidaily (love that site!)

http://www.nwanews.com/adg/Sports/260004/

wally hall sounds like a hysterical daytime soap opera queen. yeesh



"Let her final racing picture be in the Preakness winner's circle." they pay this guy? for this drivel?

cakes44 05-20-2009 10:06 AM

I would think something would have to be wrong with Luv Gov to skip this one. Isn't this what DWL was prepping him for all along with those 28 MSW races?

Kasept 05-20-2009 05:20 PM

From Belmont Park Notes Team, Brave Victory added to Belmont lineup...

Hall of Fame trainer Nick Zito and owner Robert V. LaPenta, who teamed to win last year’s Belmont Stakes with Da’ Tara, will have two starters in the 1 ½-mile Belmont – Miner’s Escape and Brave Victory.

“They’ll both work either tomorrow, Friday or Saturday,” said Zito, who also won the 2004 Belmont with Birdstone.

tiggerv 05-20-2009 06:10 PM

Miner's Escape = 2009 Da' Tara?

SniperSB23 05-20-2009 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
From Belmont Park Notes Team, Brave Victory added to Belmont lineup...

I like the horse and will never doubt Nick Zito in the Belmont, but isn't this a 7 furlong horse?

letswastemoney 05-20-2009 10:00 PM

Hmmm at first glance, I thought to myself what an easy pace scenario for RA this race was shaping up to be.

But if she were in the race, it could turn out to be a Smarty Jones-like scenario where they all make premature moves because they aren't going to let RA get away with any breather whatsoever and that would set it up for Mine That Bird.

CSC 05-22-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tiggerv
Miner's Escape = 2009 Da' Tara?

It doesn't matter who Zito has in the race, Summer Bird is going to upset the Belmont. ;)

Sightseek 05-22-2009 11:37 AM

Gomez on Chocolate Candy

J.V. on Dunkirk

blackthroatedwind 05-22-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Gomez on Chocolate Candy

J.V. on Dunkirk


I guess his final NY ride won't be a winner.

NTamm1215 05-22-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I guess his final NY ride won't be a winner.

Hopefully he'll have a mount in the 13th.

NT

Sightseek 05-22-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I guess his final NY ride won't be a winner.

:D

I imagine he'll jump back on Pioneerof Denial when those two battle off for greatness in CA.

jms62 05-22-2009 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Hmmm at first glance, I thought to myself what an easy pace scenario for RA this race was shaping up to be.

But if she were in the race, it could turn out to be a Smarty Jones-like scenario where they all make premature moves because they aren't going to let RA get away with any breather whatsoever and that would set it up for Mine That Bird.

If Mine that Bird doesnt change his style he doesn't have a shot in the Belmont. From what I gather no horse has won from more than 5 lengths behind at the 1 Mile Call in the last 10 years. For my calculations I use a hd = 1/10th of a length.

http://nyra.com/Belmont/mediaguide/0...es_Section.pdf

Travis Stone 05-22-2009 11:47 AM

They said Gomez liked the way Chocolate Candy finished in his workout... but I'm wondering if they liked how he finished in the Derby.

Sightseek 05-25-2009 09:52 AM

Both Rachel and Mine That Bird worked in the rain this morning.

The decision to run Rachel has been moved to next week, but Jackson confirmed Albarado would ride her in the Belmont if Borel lands somewhere else. Mine That Bird's connections said they would wait a few more days until confirming a jockey...

cowgirlintexas 05-25-2009 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Both Rachel and Mine That Bird worked in the rain this morning.

The decision to run Rachel has been moved to next week, but Jackson confirmed Albarado would ride her in the Belmont if Borel lands somewhere else. Mine That Bird's connections said they would wait a few more days until confirming a jockey...

I don't see Borel taking off her. Do you?

Danzig 05-25-2009 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
I don't see Borel taking off her. Do you?

absolutely not.
calvin is in the cat bird seat. did anyone expect calvin borel to suddenly be THE hot commodity? good for him!

King Glorious 05-25-2009 11:12 AM

In addition to saying that if she skips the Belmont, she'll likely run in the Mother Goose, what I found interesting was this:

Jackson also said it is questionable whether Rachel Alexandra would be pointed toward the Breeders’ Cup World Championships at Santa Anita in the fall. He reiterated his dislike of artificial surfaces, such as the Cushion Track at Santa Anita. If the filly did run in the Breeders’ Cup, Jackson indicated it would be in the Classic rather than the Ladies Classic.

CSC 05-26-2009 11:17 AM

No one's mentioned this yet on this thread but Joe Talamo is scheduled to ride this year's Belmont winner.

Danzig 05-26-2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by CSC
No one's mentioned this yet on this thread but Joe Talamo is scheduled to ride this year's Belmont winner.

who's he riding? and how can you know who the winner is, when we don't even have a field yet?

NTamm1215 05-26-2009 11:58 AM

He's riding Summer Bird, who could certainly win but I'd be hard-pressed to call him the winner right now. The flood-gates opened when Andy referred to Dunkirk as the winner.

NT

CSC 05-26-2009 12:05 PM

Having an opinion early on is termed 'opening the flood gates'?:zz:

Kasept 05-26-2009 12:11 PM

Kent Desormeaux will be on Summer Bird. Talamo's off.

VOL JACK 05-26-2009 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Kent Desormeaux will be on Summer Bird. Talamo's off.

Cant wait til Sleepy makes that awesome backstretch rail run form last to first.


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