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Antitrust32 05-07-2009 10:53 AM

Manny being Manny
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4148907

LOL.. for some reason I find this funny... but I do feel bad for our man Scuds.


50 games is a LONG time though...

SniperSB23 05-07-2009 10:53 AM

Manny Busted for Juicing
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4148907

50 game suspension.

SniperSB23 05-07-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4148907

LOL.. for some reason I find this funny... but I do feel bad for our man Scuds.


50 games is a LONG time though...

You beat me to it. Guess someone can delete my thread.

MaTH716 05-07-2009 10:59 AM

Someone better get over to Scuds house to make sure he's OK.

CSC 05-07-2009 11:00 AM

Not surprised at all by this story, I'm still amazed why some still deny that performance enhancing drugs shouldn't affect one's legacy in a sport whether it's baseball or horseracing. :zz:

Antitrust32 05-07-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
You beat me to it. Guess someone can delete my thread.


I wish my thread title would have been kept... I was proud of myself.

SniperSB23 05-07-2009 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I wish my thread title would have been kept... I was proud of myself.

Yeah, it was a better title.

docicu3 05-07-2009 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Yeah, it was a better title.


Does this count as the first Red Sox to be dirty?

GBBob 05-07-2009 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Does this count as the first Red Sox to be dirty?

Bill Lee had to be on something:zz:

randallscott35 05-07-2009 11:42 AM

First Big Brown....now Manny...:(

randallscott35 05-07-2009 11:53 AM

I remember when players looked like this....http://www.hollywoodcollectibles.com...e_Card_mid.jpg

MaTH716 05-07-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
I remember when players looked like this....http://www.hollywoodcollectibles.com...e_Card_mid.jpg

I call your Bonds and raise you a Dykstra and McGwire.




randallscott35 05-07-2009 12:02 PM

2 of my favorite players....Both ended up using.

SniperSB23 05-07-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Does this count as the first Red Sox to be dirty?

Maybe if you don't count Mo Vaughn and are just talking on the championship team. But I'd believe This Ones For Phil was running on hay, oats, and water before I'd believe Nomar and Kevin Millar never juiced.

randallscott35 05-07-2009 12:09 PM

Ummm, last I looked David Ortiz looks like a Sally Struthers kid these days and can't hit a home run. No team is clean.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-07-2009 02:00 PM

Well, we built a cushion. Need two things to help out a lil with this. Need to get our playoff-winning starter back(we've had him for just 1 start this year.) Also, Kemp needs to start doing something other than run, jump, and catch real good. Anyone that can cover center that well is gunna be out there no matter what though.

gales0678 05-07-2009 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Well, we built a cushion. Need two things to help out a lil with this. Need to get our playoff-winning starter back(we've had him for just 1 start this year.) Also, Kemp needs to start doing something other than run, jump, and catch real good. Anyone that can cover center that well is gunna be out there no matter what though.


scuds you are 12 games over , you get Manny back around game 80 , still no need to worry

if you go 20-30 while he's out you still are over .500 and may still lead the division or be just 2/3 games back , none of the weak sisters of the poor are going to be much more than 3 games over .500

SCUDSBROTHER 05-07-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
scuds you are 12 games over , you get Manny back around game 80 , still no need to worry

if you go 20-30 while he's out you still are over .500 and may still lead the division or be just 2/3 games back , none of the weak sisters of the poor are going to be much more than 3 games over .500

Can he still be in the dugout, or no?

MaTH716 05-07-2009 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Can he still be in the dugout, or no?

pretty sure it's a no.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-07-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
scuds you are 12 games over , you get Manny back around game 80 , still no need to worry

if you go 20-30 while he's out you still are over .500 and may still lead the division or be just 2/3 games back , none of the weak sisters of the poor are going to be much more than 3 games over .500

13 over(even Nationals still count)

gales0678 05-07-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
13 over(even Nationals still count)


sorry - i'm looking at the NY Post - doesn't show last night's game as final!

even better

my man got a hit last night in the 8th - finally in the pouring rain absolute slop fest - just like MTB , Tex, must love the mud , ddidn't matter though they still lost!

SCUDSBROTHER 05-07-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
sorry - i'm looking at the NY Post - doesn't show last night's game as final!

even better

my man got a hit last night in the 8th - finally in the pouring rain absolute slop fest - just like MTB , Tex, must love the mud , ddidn't matter though they still lost!

Matters a lot. 2 outs, and the bases loaded. He drives in 3 runs to tie it? Big at bat. You should thank Jesus, Muhammad, the Buddha man, and Mr. Kung foo.

gales0678 05-07-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Matters a lot. 2 outs, and the bases loaded. He drives in 3 runs to tie it? Big at bat. You should thank Jesus, Muhammad, the Buddha man, and Mr. Kung foo.


yes it should help his confidence - i hope anyways

2Hot4TV 05-07-2009 05:27 PM

Manny being Manny.

After they get off the juice they just aren't the same again.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-07-2009 06:15 PM

Shelley Smith looks like she has some of that Dodger Stadium Infield Clay on her face. That's amazing. How difficult is it to have the ESPN make-up people back off on that? Halloween Should really be kept for October.

SCUDSBROTHER 05-07-2009 09:38 PM

Wow, Washington pitcher sucks so bad that KEMP got a slam. Defense so bad that Blake got a triple on a routine flyball. Got to love that Adam Dunn on defense. 6-0 (1st inning.)

SCUDSBROTHER 05-08-2009 01:17 AM

Ump pinching both sides(20 runs scored.) We don't have much of a bridge from the starters to the closer. They aren't that good, and when they get pinched, they panic. Gunna lose a lot of games to teams that are over .500. We just been playing bad teams. I'd be the 1st to tell ya if we were that good, but the middle pitching won't hold up against good teams(Manny, or no Manny.) I think Manny has helped get teams to quit when they fall behind. That's a mistake, cuz teams have a big shot against our middle relief. Now that he's gone, I think teams will come back on our soft pitching(a lot.) It's gunna be a fight for the division. We are gunna lose a lot of games on the road with that shitty middle relief. We are lucky we built up a lead.

gales0678 05-08-2009 07:33 AM

0-1 without manny

scuds just go 20-30 in these 50 games and you'll be alright

miraja2 05-08-2009 08:26 AM

They just need to start using Xavier Paul in LF instead of old Juan....even though I know he is off to a pretty good start at the plate.
His OBP is poor, and his arm is ridiculous. He must need to hit a cutoff man when he plays fetch with his dog.

MaTH716 05-08-2009 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
0-1 without manny

scuds just go 20-30 in these 50 games and you'll be alright

C'mon Gales. They lost last night cause the bullpen gave up 10 runs in the last 3 innings. They ended up blowing the 6 run cushion they had after the first. That loss had nothing to do with Manny.
But, I'm looking foward to the daily Mannyless Dodger posts. :rolleyes:

By the way where's your Tex is a bust post today, I think he was 0 for 5 last night?

GBBob 05-08-2009 08:31 AM

Can I put Manny on iggy?

gales0678 05-08-2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
C'mon Gales. They lost last night cause the bullpen gave up 10 runs in the last 3 innings. They ended up blowing the 6 run cushion they had after the first. That loss had nothing to do with Manny.
But, I'm looking foward to the daily Mannyless Dodger posts. :rolleyes:

By the way where's your Tex is a bust post today, I think he was 0 for 5 last night?

Oh no doubt - if the run production stays were it was last night - they'll go 33-7 w/o manny

i think even if they konk out here and go 20-30 , they may very will be still in 1st place -

as for TEX - he got the big hit the other night to tie the game in the 8th during the downpour

i watched the game last night , there is no needfor me to post about him being a bust -- he is now getting booed after every strike out and dp he grounds into --- the best thing that can happen is happening - the yanks are going on the road tonight , i would expect that when he breaks out he will break out on the road , that's my guess anyway

MaTH716 05-08-2009 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
Oh no doubt - if the run production stays were it was last night - they'll go 33-7 w/o manny

i think even if they konk out here and go 20-30 , they may very will be still in 1st place -

as for TEX - he got the big hit the other night to tie the game in the 8th during the downpour

i watched the game last night , there is no needfor me to post about him being a bust -- he is now getting booed after every strike out and dp he grounds into --- the best thing that can happen is happening - the yanks are going on the road tonight , i would expect that when he breaks out he will break out on the road , that's my guess anyway

My guess is that might see a few better pitches starting tonight. He will have a little more protection in the lineup.

gales0678 05-08-2009 08:49 AM

well matsui isn't exactly a bum , i don't think that has as much to do with it as everybody thinks

i think he will hit better in time because he stops pressing at the plate , if you want to corelate that to a-rod's return so be it

as cannon says there are others issues with this team - and i agree with him on that , the 1st is the manger does not have the make up to make it in NY IMO (i'm not talking about the injuires) .... he just looks paranoid to me

the pitching is a concern as well

i have been wrong about coaches in NY in the past - i never thought Tom Coughlin could take any team let alone a NY team to the promised land - in time he proved me wrong , i will hope Girardi proves me wrong too

miraja2 05-08-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Can I put Manny on iggy?

I just wish the whole country could put your boy Favre on iggy.
If I ever hear another story about that overrated chump, it will be too soon.

GBBob 05-08-2009 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
I just wish the whole country could put your boy Favre on iggy.
If I ever hear another story about that overrated chump, it will be too soon.

I figured that was coming back at me..

and I don't disagree, although I hope he puts the ViQueens through the ringer and then stiffs them too.

there..I'm done..for now:rolleyes:

hoovesupsideyourhead 05-08-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I figured that was coming back at me..

and I don't disagree, although I hope he puts the ViQueens through the ringer and then stiffs them too.

there..I'm done..for now:rolleyes:

:tro: :tro:

MaTH716 05-08-2009 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
well matsui isn't exactly a bum , i don't think that has as much to do with it as everybody thinks

i think he will hit better in time because he stops pressing at the plate , if you want to corelate that to a-rod's return so be it

as cannon says there are others issues with this team - and i agree with him on that , the 1st is the manger does not have the make up to make it in NY IMO (i'm not talking about the injuires) .... he just looks paranoid to me

the pitching is a concern as well

i have been wrong about coaches in NY in the past - i never thought Tom Coughlin could take any team let alone a NY team to the promised land - in time he proved me wrong , i will hope Girardi proves me wrong too

Coughlin changed his whole personna and became more of a players coach instead of being a constant prick.
Im not a big Girardi guy either, but really what kind of managing should he have to do with that team.
Pitching is the #1 issue. The entire staff has been very eratic (maybe with the exception of Burnett). And the bullpen has been downright horrendous at times. If they could get that straight, they should be alright.

gales0678 05-08-2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Coughlin changed his whole personna and became more of a players coach instead of being a constant prick.
Im not a big Girardi guy either, but really what kind of managing should he have to do with that team.
Pitching is the #1 issue. The entire staff has been very eratic (maybe with the exception of Burnett). And the bullpen has been downright horrendous at times. If they could get that straight, they should be alright.


it's not per se anything he did wrong or does wrong , i just don't get a feel he will bring a winner to ny , like i said i was wrong about TC

he was 30 minutes away in buffalo from not coming back , everything went right for him in that spot and after that game , but , if they had lost up there the giants would have had a new coach

will see how joe does it will play out one way or the other

SniperSB23 05-08-2009 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docicu3
Does this count as the first Red Sox to be dirty?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...7&sportCat=mlb


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