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Kasept 05-04-2009 02:09 PM

134th Preakness Field Close to Set
 
134th PREAKNESS

1. Big Drama (J. Velazquez/D. Fawkes) Swale S., 2nd
2. Flying Private (D.W. Lukas/A. Garcia) Kentucky Derby, 19th
3. Friesan Fire (G. Saez/L. Jones) Kentucky Derby, 18th
4. General Quarters (T. McCarthy/J. Leparoux) Kentucky Derby, 10th
5. Mine That Bird (B. Woolley/M. Smith) Kentucky Derby, 1st
6. Musket Man (D. Ryan/E. Coa) Kentucky Derby, 3rd
7. Papa Clem (G. Stute/R. Bejarano) Kentucky Derby, 4th
8. Pioneerof the Nile (B. Baffert/G. Gomez) Kentucky Derby, 2nd
9. Rachel Alexandra (S. Asmussen/C. Borel) Kentucky Oaks, 1st
10. Take the Points (T. Pletcher/E. Prado) Santa Anita Derby, 4th
11. Terrain (A. Stall Jr./J. Rose) Blue Grass S., 4th
12. Tone It Down (W. Komlo/K. Desormeaux) Tesio S., 3rd
13. Luv Gov (D. W. Lukas/TBD)

South Beach Luv 05-04-2009 02:13 PM

Nice to see Papa Clem in there :tro:

10 pnt move up 05-04-2009 02:45 PM

That might be a worse field then last years survivors of Big Browns romp. Where do they get all these stiffs.

slotdirt 05-04-2009 02:46 PM

Dollars to doughnuts that Papa Clem goes off as the favorite unless ol' Pioneerof enters.

tiggerv 05-04-2009 03:09 PM

I thought FF's hoof got ripped up. Are they really going to bring him back in 2 weeks?

NoLuvForPletch 05-04-2009 03:16 PM

by the time it is all said and done i would be shocked if there wasn't a full field of 14 going postward. anyone with a three year old with all 4 legs attached that has shown any ability to stay what so ever will take a shot if there is room, no? who would they be afraid of?

SniperSB23 05-04-2009 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
by the time it is all said and done i would be shocked if there wasn't a full field of 14 going postward. anyone with a three year old with all 4 legs attached that has shown any ability to stay what so ever will take a shot if there is room, no? who would they be afraid of?

With so many horses pointing to the Preakness though you'll have some take the opportunity at easier black type in the Peter Pan or Lone Star Derby.

Coach Pants 05-04-2009 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiggerv
I thought FF's hoof got ripped up. Are they really going to bring him back in 2 weeks?

hoof = Jones' pride.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-04-2009 03:43 PM

Maybe a horse like Terrain might be tempted to skip the Lone Star race now and wait a week?

This One's For Phil would be very dangerous in the Preakness now that Dominguez has shown he can settle him to a crawl early on.

brianwspencer 05-04-2009 03:51 PM

Was Hull heading this way?

Scav 05-04-2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Was Hull heading this way?

They are pointing towards NY I think with him, not the Belmont either, something else

10 pnt move up 05-04-2009 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SniperSB23
With so many horses pointing to the Preakness though you'll have some take the opportunity at easier black type in the Peter Pan or Lone Star Derby.

The lone star derby as of last week looks tougher than this.

SniperSB23 05-04-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up
The lone star derby as of last week looks tougher than this.

That's assuming none of them redirect to the Preakness which is surely a possibility now.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-04-2009 04:02 PM

The Sunland Derby winner Kelly Leak worked 5 furlongs yesterday.

I wouldn't be shocked if the owners of him are pleading to run in the Preakness.

NoLuvForPletch 05-04-2009 04:04 PM

why wouldn't they take a shot with rachel alexandra here? $1,000,000 here vs $250,000 in the acorn. and she barely broke out of a cantor on friday, while everyone from the derby was panting home and mr fantasy was all out to hold off tofp at a mile?

Gander 05-04-2009 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Maybe a horse like Terrain might be tempted to skip the Lone Star race now and wait a week?

This One's For Phil would be very dangerous in the Preakness now that Dominguez has shown he can settle him to a crawl early on.

I think he is heading towards the Met Mile. Dutrow feels he is at his best as a one run from off the pace type horse, in a middle distance. The Preakness may be too far for him.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-04-2009 04:14 PM

The way he has settled in his last two - the distance won't be a problem at all.

But if allowed to use his natural speed - a mile is probably his best distance.

Gander 05-04-2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
The way he has settled in his last two - the distance won't be a problem at all.

But if allowed to use his natural speed - a mile is probably his best distance.

I agree and cant wait to bet him in this race. Never been a fan of this horse, but hes got mad talent and Dutrow loves the Met Mile.

miraja2 05-04-2009 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Derby runners considering:
Pioneerof the Nile
Musket Man
Join in the Dance
General Quarters
Friesan Fire

I thought he was pretty impressive on Saturday.
He held on a lot longer than I thought he would, and seemed to respond initially when challenged. Perhaps that was just a product of the track, as he was one of the few that seemed almost as unlikely as Mine that Bird going in, but taking a shot with him in this spot seems reasonable off that performance.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-04-2009 04:42 PM

He and Regal Ransom ran virtually together the whole way around. They both got to keep their faces nice and clean for the most part anyway.

10 pnt move up 05-04-2009 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
He and Regal Ransom ran virtually together the whole way around. They both got to keep their faces nice and clean for the most part anyway.

Join the Dance had the rail as well

FATPIANO 05-04-2009 05:35 PM

What ever happened to Haynesfield? He could do well in THe Preakness

Alan07 05-04-2009 05:41 PM

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...617&source=rss

Danzig 05-04-2009 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiggerv
I thought FF's hoof got ripped up. Are they really going to bring him back in 2 weeks?

i didn't think his hoof got damaged. from what i saw, he got cuts and scrapes and part of another horses webbing (i'm assuming from run down bandages or something0 was supposedly in his hoof.

Danzig 05-04-2009 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NoLuvForPletch
why wouldn't they take a shot with rachel alexandra here? $1,000,000 here vs $250,000 in the acorn. and she barely broke out of a cantor on friday, while everyone from the derby was panting home and mr fantasy was all out to hold off tofp at a mile?

she's not nominated to any. it would cost them plenty. plus, they think she should race against females, not colts.

Danzig 05-04-2009 07:59 PM

http://www.drf.com/news/article/103512.html


right now, more are interested than can start-15....doesn't appear mine that bird has scared anyone away.

slotdirt 05-04-2009 08:35 PM

This might be the best betting Preakness in a non-catastrophic injury (rest in peace, Barbaro) kind of way since 2005. If you want to beat the Derby winner, now's your chance.

Danzig 05-04-2009 08:44 PM

i wonder if big drama could end up the fave in two weeks?

slotdirt 05-04-2009 08:45 PM

I can't imagine Big Drama would be the favorite. That being said, there are some new shooters that could be legit such as Hull and the erstwhile injured Charitable Man and Big Drama.

letswastemoney 05-04-2009 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i wonder if big drama could end up the fave in two weeks?

The public is going to remember the Derby runners...I think Papa Clem or PotN if he goes are sure things to be the favorite

slotdirt 05-04-2009 08:50 PM

The difference between this and 2005 is that Afleet Alex had a couple of legitimate excuses that year and went off the Preakness favorite at somewhere around 7-2. What are the excuses for 2-4 this year coming out of the Derby? The track?

Lava 05-04-2009 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i wonder if big drama could end up the fave in two weeks?

If the Derby top 4 go I think he will be around 10-1. POTN will be the fave if he goes.

Danzig 05-04-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
The difference between this and 2005 is that Afleet Alex had a couple of legitimate excuses that year and went off the Preakness favorite at somewhere around 7-2. What are the excuses for 2-4 this year coming out of the Derby? The track?

you don't think the results were skewed by the surface?

CSC 05-04-2009 09:42 PM

The other Bird, Summer Bird ran a positive race being 3-4 deep for most of the trip, at one point he and MTB were side by side when Bor-rail took the inside route and Rosier went into the 7 path. He would have been my smart bet in the Preakness. Now it's back to the drawing board.

lemoncrush 05-05-2009 08:18 AM

I think Hello Broadway and Imperial Council are both going in the Peter Pan this weekend, but it would be interesting to see one of the two take a shot at the Preakness instead.

slotdirt 05-05-2009 08:21 AM

Anybody else interested in Charitable Man should he run? The horse was pretty good last year, and with a race under his belt, could be prime for a nice race.

brianwspencer 05-05-2009 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Alan07

This is good news. Can't wait to see him stretch out.

favoritetrick 05-05-2009 12:36 PM

I just got word that Fresian Fire will most likely be pointed for the Met Mile rather than coming back for the Preakness. Mr. Fantasy was also just redirected to the Met Mile from the Preakness probable list.

lemoncrush 05-05-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
Anybody else interested in Charitable Man should he run? The horse was pretty good last year, and with a race under his belt, could be prime for a nice race.

DRF article today says that Kirian listed both he and Mr. Fantasy as possible. Now that Mr. Fantasy is going to the Met Mile, I would imagine Charitable Man would run.


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