Triple Crown Winner - a possibility?
 

OK, I'll say it: This could be the year.

Mine That Bird's sire is Birdstone, and we all remember how he defeated Smarty Jones in the Belmont in 2004. If MTB has his father's ability at a long distance, and it seemed that he had plenty left at 1+1/4 mile in the Derby, then it really will come down to the fact that the Preakness is in 2 weeks.

If many of the other Derby runners drop from the Preakness as they have in past years, Mine That Bird has a shot.

Actually looking forward to following the absolute toasting and hyjjinx that your post is going to be met with... These guys are brutal , quite imaginative and often hilarious in thier response to utterly absurd postings such as the one you just made.

It's a bit early for this is'nt it? :rolleyes:

He has a shot, though a slight one. I see this going 1 of 2 ways, either he runs up the track at Pimlico or he has truly improved from his Sunland races. If he runs up the track at Pimlico it wouldn't be a very attractive position since he is a gelding, he may be a derby winner that one day hits the claiming ranks. I'm going to wait to see what he does at Pimlico before casting judgement, he was the Canadian 2 yr old of the year so there is a base to atleast build from.

And people wonder why he'll go off as the favorite in the Preakness

I don't think Birdstone was the reason Smarty lost the Belmont....

Triple Crown? Will he hit the board in the Preakness a better question?

I'm looking forward to that too. I've had many laughs reading other posts like that.

Just thought I'd put something up when I saw that Birdstone was his pop, and he did win the Belmont. That's all. It is of course much more likely that it won't happen.

Bulls eye!
 

Couldn't have said it better myself! :tro:

Pretty sure this thread belongs in the Eso room under '"have you heard any good jokes lately"

if the preakness and belmont come up the same muddy mess, and everyone leaves the door open on the rail again-sure, it could happen. :rolleyes:

it could happen also that i turn out to be the illegitimate child of the queen of england and the pope. now, that would be something.

i doubt mine that bird can go where the likes of native dancer and spectacular bid could not.

At this point, Mine That Bird is the only one with a shot.

I don't know if the poster was being silly, but I took his question seriously. I know it is a very extreme position to take, but I am always open to ideas. Look no one thought this horse was in the race to win the derby and if someone had posted he was going to win by almost 7, the van probably would have been called to take them to the ward. Still it was a 7 length victory and again if he didn't get the inside trip he still probably would have won. Off track and a liking to CD may have also been factors. Wait and see approach here. Slug or for real...

To me , the horse can run so he'll be single digits in the Preakness and the probable fav . The Belmont , let's take it one race at a time .

A Triple CRown Winner, Are you serious? It will not happen, unless Pigs Fly

Well the horse did make a mockery out of the Derby, so whos to say that he couldn't turn the whole triple crown into a joke this year?

If anyone made it into a mockery, it was the rest of the field stinking it up. It's most likely a fluke, but don't hate the horse, he's the only one who lifted a hoof.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

some people said the same thing about one day having a black president, and now we have Obama............along with Swine Flu.

anything can happen in this sport. thats what makes it great. that being said, i would not draw any conclusions from that race in the slop. plus contenders were sidelined that might come back. people don't understand that many times this race is a "toss". he could run great at pimlico but there have been many that don't win again for awhile.

The real question is how can he NOT win the Tripe Crown? This horse and his connections are the epitome of brilliance...

The savior of racing has been revealed.. his name is Mine That Bird...

if anyone thinks the derby is a good indication of how these horses will do the rest of the year....let me bring up smarty jones' derby. a lot of people knocked the results, since only two horses ran a lick on that surface. this surface was in even worse shape.
you had one horse-ONE- who ran well. he inexplicably ran thirty-odd points better than his previous best, while everyone else was subpar. had that race been anything other than the derby, most of that field would have scratched. taking the results of that race as gospel would be a mistake imo. yes, horses can run well after maturing over the spring. but this particular win is more than that. the horse will have to win without the rest of the field clunking it up for me to think he's anything to watch for, bet on, next time out.

Is "Pigs Fly" running? :D

Would you not have said the same thing about MTB winning the Derby? I would've.

I know what you're saying, but didn't the place and show horses run speed figures that fit perfectly well with what they had done previously? In terms of BSFs, they are both mid-90s horses who ran in the mid-90s on Saturday.

:zz:

well Pigs did fly on Saturday... so I guess anything is possible.

On a fast dry dirt track in two weeks i expect the Birdman to run 8th or so... but who knows... if it rains in two weeks and again three weeks after that... nevermind I still cant see it happening.

There ya go ... Swine flu ... that's pretty close to pigs flying.;)

No.

There is a far greater chance he never wins another race ever than the Triple Crown. As a matter of fact I think he wont win again this year. Anywhere.

ok-if that's the case with 2-4, then i guess the other 15 were subpar? or most of them. i doubt atomic rain or flying private ran a subpar race. friesan fire was definitely not the same as he had been.

i just think the track had the most to do with what happened. different track, different results. like i said saturday just after the race, i wouldn't bet mine that bird with someone else's money next out.

MTB
 

they bought a gelding 2yo juvenile canadien champ on syn-track, took him to Sunland made him look bad then waited to get in derby knowing he would clean their clock there and in last two triple crown races, my opinion a set-up and would make a good novel. If MTB checks out clean on after race testing then it's a set-up. Horses don't run like that for know reason, the rest of the field ran the best they could on a horrible track. 1/19 horses handled the track. i don't believe it, and think some sh@# will come out of this.

From Beyer's column today.

Mine That Bird's win will be popularly regarded as the result of a once-in-a-lifetime perfect storm. Probably this opinion is correct; probably the gelding will never win another major race. However, I can remember that the other utterly implausible Derby winner, Canonero II, was regarded the same way. Two weeks later he won the Preakness and forced all of the doubters to revise their opinion that the Derby was a fluke.

If they knew he was so damn good they should have put Chantel back on board. Then they would have probably got 90-1 on him.

they did get more than 90-1 in the exotics, plus Borel is good from off the pace, @ CD. Most on here can't grasp the way this horse out ran 18 others so easy, i don't buy it for one second he just jumped up and torn up a terrible track like that. Iv'e watch the replay a few times and still don't believe it something smells here.

It's scheduled to rain in Baltimore on Tuesday May 12 and Wednesday May 13. It will be interesting to see if that extends to Saturday of that week....

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenda...ink_undeclared

If thats the case and they knew this horse was that good then this is the greatest horse of all time. To think they had much confidence in this horse as the most freakesh horse they had ever seen to take him to Sunland stiff him twice knowing all along that all these scratches were going to happen that would allow him into the race, then know the stiff jobs wouldnt affect the horse negataively because he was that good? . Sounds too much

Oh Boy, the weather updates are starting.