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Seattleallstar 08-08-2006 12:15 AM

I'm sick
 
Really got into gambling again really bad I reverted back to my bad habits, and blew any available cash I had on horses, poker,blackjack, its to the point where my computer is being taken away, and my parents talked to my boss to monitor my computer activity which probably means I wont be posting for a very long while. For his part my dad has also removed the TVG from the cable and will no longer be taking me to the track or even talk about horse racing, or poker. I'm sure many of you already know the wacky turn ive had the past 2 years and in some cases 4. Id still like to talk to you on messenger, we dont have to talk about horses.

Yahoo---seattleallstar81
aim--bsbjerrynsync

1st_Saturday_in_May 08-08-2006 12:18 AM

Seattle, I know we've had a bit of small tifs in teh past, but I think you're a very good guy and I hope to keep talking to you. My AIM SN is davidsbigboy so if you ever just want to chat about life or even talk the ponies a little bit just strike up a convo. I'm generally on. If not, that's cool too. I wish you nothing but the best and I truly hope you can get past your gambling addiction. And another question, why do you have the backstreet boys and nsync in your aim screenname ;) ?

- dustin

Seattleallstar 08-08-2006 12:31 AM

im sure Oracle is out there happy about my predicament and got what I deserved

SCUDSBROTHER 08-08-2006 01:38 AM

That's too bad.I have seen it 1st hand myself.My friend got kicked out of his parents' place(while being close to getting a Law Degree) after he took 5k-10k from his Dad's ATM card(seems like he had a real bad jonz for PAI GOW POKER but most anything would do.)He was a very high risk taker in general.That is a flaw of some sort that some people are born with(I believe.)Liked to come up with ways to get easy money,and never thought the cops would ever be smart enough to catch him.Most people think about the consequences of losing,and back off when they lose(and lose interest somewhat when they lose.)Some others don't think about the possibility of losing,and when they do lose they keep betting more and more. I would say that these folks don't have just a gambling problem.It is not limited to gambling.They are high risk takers in general.Feel sorry for ya Seattle.You probably will be forced to go to G.A. MEETINGS,and G.A. outings where you eat bad food at Olive Garden.

oracle80 08-08-2006 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
im sure Oracle is out there happy about my predicament and got what I deserved

Jerry I am only happy that you are getting help.
Now listen, over at GA they have a 12 step program. There is a daily double on the first two steps. Rolling pik-3's beginning on steps 1-10. A pik-4 on steps 9-12, and superfecta wagering on the last step. Good luck!!!!!

oracle80 08-08-2006 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
Really got into gambling again really bad I reverted back to my bad habits, and blew any available cash I had on horses, poker,blackjack, its to the point where my computer is being taken away, and my parents talked to my boss to monitor my computer activity which probably means I wont be posting for a very long while. For his part my dad has also removed the TVG from the cable and will no longer be taking me to the track or even talk about horse racing, or poker. I'm sure many of you already know the wacky turn ive had the past 2 years and in some cases 4. Id still like to talk to you on messenger, we dont have to talk about horses.

Yahoo---seattleallstar81
aim--bsbjerrynsync


Question I have is if your computer is being taken away then how can we chat on messenger? In any case Jerry, you know how to get ahold of me.

2MinsToPost 08-08-2006 08:36 AM

Jerry,

I pm'ed you my number. Let me know that you got it, if I don't hear from you I will forward it to someone so they can pass it on to you. I have shared in the past on the other forum some of the loewst points of my life, oddly enough a big part of that was gambling. I spoke with you on I believe Saturday and you said everything was cool? What happened? Nevermind, I know how that goes. Been down that road.

It is for the best that someone loves you enough to step in and give you some tough love. Don't end up like me. At the height of my problem, within a month, my new Chevy truck was repo'ed, I had 48 hours to get all my belongings out of the apartment, my credit card was maxed from cash advances and I was only a step away from losing my job. I ended up losing that job within a week of being evicted, had all my personal belongings in a garage and was driving a car borrowed from a friends parents. My only friend at that time in my eyes was a bottle and an exacta at whatever track was up next. I lived in that car for well over a month. I would go to a day labor shop, work for $6 an hour, get paid the $30 or $40 and drink and gamble it away every day. Back up at 4:00am the next day doing the same thing. Lived in it. Showered in a bathroom sink the majority of the time. My mother thought I had committed suicide and filed a missing persons report.

Didn't take long for someone to find me. Someone who loves me. Don't end up like me. I am better now, I have control over my gambling compared to how it used to be. Call me man, I have been in your shoes. I make a great listener.

Curt

BellamyRd. 08-08-2006 10:14 AM

well Jerry, look on the bright side
at least you got over your terrible bout with cancer
(inside joke, no need to get alarmed)
just remember the addict will find a way
so until YOU want to beat this yourself
the addition will still remain
I'll keep you in my prayers
if you ever want to talk
just ask Mr. Saratoga for my number
(he does care, and so do I)

Coach Pants 08-08-2006 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80
Jerry I am only happy that you are getting help.
Now listen, over at GA they have a 12 step program. There is a daily double on the first two steps. Rolling pik-3's beginning on steps 1-10. A pik-4 on steps 9-12, and superfecta wagering on the last step. Good luck!!!!!

ROFL! Post of the day.

Nostradamus 08-08-2006 10:27 AM

While we all find you very annoying, we wish you the best of luck and hope you put your life together. Take up golf. I am addicted to that and another guy here said you should try chess. He spends half the day on the computer playing chess.

Cajungator26 08-08-2006 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
While we all find you very annoying, we wish you the best of luck and hope you put your life together. Take up golf. I am addicted to that and another guy here said you should try chess. He spends half the day on the computer playing chess.

The point isn't to get addicted to something else... it's to NOT be addicted at all. Any 12 step program will teach you that. :rolleyes:

Nostradamus 08-08-2006 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
The point isn't to get addicted to something else... it's to NOT be addicted at all. Any 12 step program will teach you that. :rolleyes:


Everyone is addicted to something, it is human nature. Addictions are nothing more than habits of the mind.

As Erasmus noted, "A nail is driven out by another nail. Habit is overcome by habit."

Cajungator26 08-08-2006 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Everyone is addicted to something, it is human nature. Addictions are nothing more than habits of the mind.

As Erasmus noted, "A nail is driven out by another nail. Habit is overcome by habit."

There's a difference between an infatuation and an addiction. Most humans have infatuations. Curing one addiction by replacing it with another doesn't help the cause. It also doesn't help unless Seattle is the one who wants to get rid of his addiction.

in·fat·u·a·tion
n.
A foolish, unreasoning, or extravagant passion or attraction. See Synonyms at love.
An object of extravagant, short-lived passion.

ad·dic·tion
n.
Compulsive physiological and psychological need for a habit-forming substance: a drug used in the treatment of heroin addiction.
An instance of this: a person with multiple chemical addictions.

The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something.
An instance of this: had an addiction for fast cars.

Nostradamus 08-08-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
There's a difference between an infatuation and an addiction. Most humans have infatuations. Curing one addiction by replacing it with another doesn't help the cause. It also doesn't help unless Seattle is the one who wants to get rid of his addiction.

in·fat·u·a·tion
n.
A foolish, unreasoning, or extravagant passion or attraction. See Synonyms at love.
An object of extravagant, short-lived passion.

ad·dic·tion
n.
Compulsive physiological and psychological need for a habit-forming substance: a drug used in the treatment of heroin addiction.
An instance of this: a person with multiple chemical addictions.

The condition of being habitually or compulsively occupied with or or involved in something.
An instance of this: had an addiction for fast cars.

Yes. Read the word habit in the definition for addiction. That is what all scientists and erasmus believed.

Most people that are compulsive anything have brains that are wired to need some type of stimulation. Many compulsive gamblers are actually competition junkies. The money means nothing to them.

The boredom though is often what causes addicts to go back to their addiction. That boredom must be replaced with something (usually competitive) or the mind tells the individual that they need to go back to the old habits.

I am a compulsive golfer.
The guy next to me is a compulsive chess player.
The other guy is addicted to video games.

Most people on chat sites are addicted to them. The brain likes the stimulation. Try going 30 days without posting on a chat site and see what your brain does.

People are animals, just like monkeys. Habit controls everything. As William James notes, "We are mere bundles of habit" nothing more.

Cajungator26 08-08-2006 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Yes. Read the word habit in the definition for addiction. That is what all scientists and erasmus believed.

Most people that are compulsive anything have brains that are wired to need some type of stimulation. Many compulsive gamblers are actually competition junkies. The money means nothing to them.

The boredom though is often what causes addicts to go back to their addiction. That boredom must be replaced with something (usually competitive) or the mind tells the individual that they need to go back to the old habits.

I am a compulsive golfer.
The guy next to me is a compulsive chess player.
The other guy is addicted to video games.

Most people on chat sites are addicted to them. The brain likes the stimulation. Try going 30 days without posting on a chat site and see what your brain does.

People are animals, just like monkeys. Habit controls everything. As William James notes, "We are mere bundles of habit" nothing more.

Some people also like to make up multiple screen names and post as a different personality on each one. Sound familiar? Wonder if that is considered an addiction as well. :confused:

ArlJim78 08-08-2006 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Some people also like to make up multiple screen names and post as a different personality on each one. Sound familiar? Wonder if that is considered an addiction as well. :confused:

More likely a psychosis.

Nostradamus 08-08-2006 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Some people also like to make up multiple screen names and post as a different personality on each one. Sound familiar? Wonder if that is considered an addiction as well. :confused:

I am sure it is, and I have more than 1 screen name, but there is more than one person posting under each name. Even a monkey could figure that out.

eurobounce 08-08-2006 11:17 AM

Everyone has addictions and some sort of addiction is healthy. But with any addiction, you have to be able to control it. You cant let it get in the way of your family, work, bills etc etc. People are addicted to working, running, lifting weights, eating, bike riding etc etc. You just have to find a way to control it. People who are not able to control the addiction they have are the ones that need help. But we all gamble (lack of a better word) with our addiction consuming us.

Seattle--good luck my friend and if you ever need anything please let me know.

Nostradamus 08-08-2006 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
More likely a psychosis.

More like a comedy that kills time during our day. Our project manager lets us do whatever we want, except when we took all of your pictures from the picture section here and were going to post them on hotornot and on some other very funny websites and when we started giving out fake personal information on another site. The funniest site was dontdatehimgirl.com, which we were very close to doing but we were laughing too hard and he figured it out. :)

Cajungator26 08-08-2006 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
More like a comedy that kills time during our day. Our project manager lets us do whatever we want, except when we took all of your pictures from the picture section here and were going to post them on hotornot and on some other very funny websites and when we started giving out fake personal information on another site. The funniest site was dontdatehimgirl.com, which we were very close to doing but we were laughing too hard and he figured it out. :)

Thank you for proving my point.

Nostradamus 08-08-2006 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Thank you for proving my point.

You would have gotten two 8's and a 9 from our panelists if we put you on hotornot. :eek:

Cajungator26 08-08-2006 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
You would have gotten two 8's and a 9 from our panelists if we put you on hotornot. :eek:

I really could care less. For all you know, that isn't me. ;) :D

Nostradamus 08-08-2006 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I really could care less. For all you know, that isn't me. ;) :D

It is a chat site so I don't believe anything anyway. Only an idiot would, although it is probably you.

2MinsToPost 08-08-2006 12:02 PM

any addict needs to replace the former addiction with something else, albeit an alcoholic becomes addicted to going to meetings, a compulsive gambler takes up gardening.

It is EXTREMLY IMPORTANT for Jerry to find something TO REPLACE GAMBLING WITH. Otherwise, he will fall back.

When you give something up, you leave a hole that needs to be filled.

Rehab 101. 6 months outpatient and that gets drilled into your head daily. 12 step programs don't stress that like that.

The_Wizard 08-08-2006 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost
any addict needs to replace the former addiction with something else, albeit an alcoholic becomes addicted to going to meetings, a compulsive gambler takes up gardening.

It is EXTREMLY IMPORTANT for Jerry to find something TO REPLACE GAMBLING WITH. Otherwise, he will fall back.

When you give something up, you leave a hole that needs to be filled.

Rehab 101. 6 months outpatient and that gets drilled into your head daily. 12 step programs don't stress that like that.

That is correct. That is what we were saying. Play chess. It is a great addiction.

ArlJim78 08-08-2006 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
More like a comedy that kills time during our day. Our project manager lets us do whatever we want, except when we took all of your pictures from the picture section here and were going to post them on hotornot and on some other very funny websites and when we started giving out fake personal information on another site. The funniest site was dontdatehimgirl.com, which we were very close to doing but we were laughing too hard and he figured it out. :)

HaHa, a real kneeslapper. How is that even funny though? The people that you were trying to perpetrate the joke on were not even aware of what you were doing and the people that would have seen the pictures and information would not have the foggiest notion who those people were. I guess you had to be there.

Nostradamus 08-08-2006 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
HaHa, a real kneeslapper. How is that even funny though? The people that you were trying to perpetrate the joke on were not even aware of what you were doing and the people that would have seen the pictures and information would not have the foggiest notion who those people were. I guess you had to be there.

You did have to be there. We could have posted the link here. Now that would have been funny.

pgardn 08-08-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Everyone has addictions and some sort of addiction is healthy. But with any addiction, you have to be able to control it. You cant let it get in the way of your family, work, bills etc etc. People are addicted to working, running, lifting weights, eating, bike riding etc etc. You just have to find a way to control it. People who are not able to control the addiction they have are the ones that need help. But we all gamble (lack of a better word) with our addiction consuming us.

Seattle--good luck my friend and if you ever need anything please let me know.

BINGO.

Im off to the coastline to hunt the regal redfish. Kayak and open water. Let it fill my soul. Got to get outside with the birds and the gentle lapping of water. Multiple interests are good.... and bad.

Buffymommy 08-08-2006 12:51 PM

Good Luck Seattle. Glad to see you are getting help. PM me if ya wanna talk. I have been busy at work but I will get back to you eventually.


My advise, ride the horses instead of gambling on them. :) Start taking riding lessons.

Buffymommy 08-08-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
You did have to be there. We could have posted the link here. Now that would have been funny.


I am beginning to think that you need a "BE NICE".

SCUDSBROTHER 08-08-2006 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
BINGO.

Im off to the coastline to hunt the regal redfish. Kayak and open water. Let it fill my soul. Got to get outside with the birds and the gentle lapping of water. Multiple interests are good.... and bad.


Pat,you are a lot like my Dad.You are both addicted to moderation.He and my Mom escape the heat each Summer,and go live in an R.V. on the upper Oregon Coast. We are talking easily amused here.That is special for a day and a half,but somehow they can stay there for 2 months doing God knows what (to stay sane.)How much reading can you do?

irishtrekker 08-08-2006 01:56 PM

Scuds, I can't think of anything I'd rather do. Take my bike and borrow a kayak, go out to some empty Northwest coast and spend the summer in a cabin doing nothing but reading, writing, hiking...(sigh)...I love the city, but part of me belongs to empty places, too.

Crown@club 08-08-2006 06:23 PM

Hey Jerry,

I hardly see you on messengers anymore. But I got a couple of stories to tell you. I really wanted to get all Helmuthed on them. Seriously.

Catch me online man!

2Hot4TV 08-08-2006 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
Really got into gambling again really bad I reverted back to my bad habits, and blew any available cash I had on horses, poker,blackjack, its to the point where my computer is being taken away, and my parents talked to my boss to monitor my computer activity which probably means I wont be posting for a very long while. For his part my dad has also removed the TVG from the cable and will no longer be taking me to the track or even talk about horse racing, or poker. I'm sure many of you already know the wacky turn ive had the past 2 years and in some cases 4. Id still like to talk to you on messenger, we dont have to talk about horses.

Yahoo---seattleallstar81
aim--bsbjerrynsync

Son, when it comes to gambling there are two catigories. Now pay attention to this because this is important that you understand the two. There is the GAMBLER and there is the FOOL. Gambler and Fool. The Gambler takes calculated risks to improve his bankroll. The Fool is ,,,, well they are so unsure of what they want that they buy Cracker jacks when they were going for popcorn. Gambler or Fool, the choice is truly up to you and that is one of the things that makes America a wonderful place. The right to be stupid. Good luck son.

westcoastinvader 08-09-2006 01:32 AM

I'm a softy 99% of the time, but.....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar
Really got into gambling again really bad I reverted back to my bad habits, and blew any available cash I had on horses, poker,blackjack, its to the point where my computer is being taken away, and my parents talked to my boss to monitor my computer activity which probably means I wont be posting for a very long while. For his part my dad has also removed the TVG from the cable and will no longer be taking me to the track or even talk about horse racing, or poker. I'm sure many of you already know the wacky turn ive had the past 2 years and in some cases 4. Id still like to talk to you on messenger, we dont have to talk about horses.

Yahoo---seattleallstar81
aim--bsbjerrynsync



If you can't handle your gambling, get the frick out of here.

I do not want to be supporting or reading about any whiney asses that are upset because they lost. Or got caught losing more than they should.

I follow thoroughbred racing for the nostalgia, the thrills, and with sincere respect to the wager.

Respect to the wager.

I come here for pleasure. This is not a dam*ed support group.


(edit:.......actually, I do not mind people expressing 'pissedoffness' and lament over a loss........but I frickin' hate those that irresponsibly crash and burn casting a pall over a sport I love)

sham 08-09-2006 05:51 AM

I'm addicted to placebos. I'd give them up, but it wouldn't do any good.

oracle80 08-09-2006 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader
If you can't handle your gambling, get the frick out of here.

I do not want to be supporting or reading about any whiney asses that are upset because they lost. Or got caught losing more than they should.

I follow thoroughbred racing for the nostalgia, the thrills, and with sincere respect to the wager.

Respect to the wager.

I come here for pleasure. This is not a dam*ed support group.


(edit:.......actually, I do not mind people expressing 'pissedoffness' and lament over a loss........but I frickin' hate those that irresponsibly crash and burn casting a pall over a sport I love)

Well I would also have to say that morons who blow all their money playing cards get no sympathy from me either. Hit the road jack, and don't ya come back no more!!!!!

BellamyRd. 08-09-2006 10:38 AM

westcoastinvader, you don't get it
why do you think every track website
has something for people with gambling addiction?
like it or not, it is, a part of the sport
an excellent book to read is "Horseplayers" by Ted McClelland
this isn't a book glorifying the sport in any sense like 99% do
here's a fact for you, 16 Billion is bet every year on T'breds alone
only between 2% to 5% of players actually show a profit from "playing"
for someone to get addicted to it, and lose tons of money is very easy
one of the reasons why is they are always racing, 365
if you blow east coast, there's always west coast to try to break even
there are many "Jerrys" out there, this is no isolated incident
that's great if you can wager responsibly, but don't look down upon those
who can't, it's the same as any other addiction

2Hot4TV 08-09-2006 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader
If you can't handle your gambling, get the frick out of here.

I do not want to be supporting or reading about any whiney asses that are upset because they lost. Or got caught losing more than they should.

I follow thoroughbred racing for the nostalgia, the thrills, and with sincere respect to the wager.

Respect to the wager.

I come here for pleasure. This is not a dam*ed support group.


(edit:.......actually, I do not mind people expressing 'pissedoffness' and lament over a loss........but I frickin' hate those that irresponsibly crash and burn casting a pall over a sport I love)

Sometime it is a support group. Cheers

Seattleallstar 08-09-2006 12:41 PM

well ive just quit my job without notice, and im going to pursue grad school.


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