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pointgivenpap 05-02-2009 08:14 PM

Tom Durkin's call.
 
Tom always does a good job, but come on dude. Next time wear your glasses so you can call the horse shooting up the rail. I thought his biggest blunder mistake was calling the 04 Travers, the "belmont" stakes when Birdstone crossed the wire at Saratoga, but this call was terrible. Hey Tommy, get a clue..................

gales0678 05-02-2009 08:16 PM

time to bring back Dave Johnson

this call had to be the worst in derby history, he never saw the horse , he sohuld have had a sign in his box - remember if see horse on rail , think borel

King Glorious 05-02-2009 08:16 PM

If it was Trevor, there would be calls for him to be put to death by now.

Danzig 05-02-2009 08:25 PM

oh jesustapdancingchrist. could we not just have someone dig up the last 'race caller so and so sucked' post and put the next bad call in that thread?

31lengths 05-02-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by pointgivenpap
Tom always does a good job, but come on dude. Next time wear your glasses so you can call the horse shooting up the rail. I thought his biggest blunder mistake was calling the 04 Travers, the "belmont" stakes when Birdstone crossed the wire at Saratoga, but this call was terrible. Hey Tommy, get a clue..................


The race hadn't even finished yet and I said aloud "Durkin's asleep again".

Danzig 05-02-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 31lengths
The race hadn't even finished yet and I said aloud "Durkin's asleep again".

True story.

or knee deep in mint julep glasses. those things are good!

VOL JACK 05-02-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
time to bring back Dave Johnson

this call had to be the worst in derby history, he never saw the horse , he sohuld have had a sign in his box - remember if see horse on rail , think borel

Time to let Mark Johnson call the race to all....Great call on his part.

arulus 05-02-2009 08:56 PM

I agree that was annoying. I see this horse charging down the stretch and I'm like ahhh! who the **** is that!?

However, has anyone else noticed that for the past year or two Durkin's voice always is annoyingly wavery during his calls? Drives me freakin batty. "And he-e-ere's M-a-a-acho Again on the outside."

miraja2 05-02-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Time to let Mark Johnson call the race to all....Great call on his part.

That's the call we got at Arlington, and though it was difficult for me to hear him with a group of drunken frat boys next to me screaming, "WHERE THE HELL IS CHOCOLATE CANDY?!?!?!" over and over, I thought it sounded like a pretty good call from him.

VOL JACK 05-02-2009 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by miraja2
That's the call we got at Arlington, and though it was difficult for me to hear him with drunken frat boys around me screaming, "WHERE THE HELL IS CHOCOLATE CANDY?!?!?!" over and over, I thought it sounded like a pretty good call from him.


Kentucky Downs was actually alot worse for annoying patrons on Oaks Day. I think it was Grandma's day out and since the Bingo hall across the street burned they ended up at KD.

There were 2.5 dollars of Trifecta tickets at KD cashed in the derby.. A mom and Daughter had a buck each, because they liked the name.:wf :wf

Travis Stone 05-02-2009 09:36 PM

Calling at Churchill is not easy... they run straight at you, literally. Its the horses shoulders and the jockey's sleeves for much of the stretch.

The crazy part about this Derby... there were three horses with the same silks (Winstar) and two others with the same silk (Bernie/Atomic).

ninetoone 05-02-2009 09:40 PM

It's a Borel thing. Denman missed him even worse in the BC Juvenile...

philcski 05-02-2009 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Calling at Churchill is not easy... they run straight at you, literally. Its the horses shoulders and the jockey's sleeves for much of the stretch.

The crazy part about this Derby... there were three horses with the same silks (Winstar) and two others with the same silk (Bernie/Atomic).

and another two with the same silks and different caps (Godolphin.) And mud covering everything, and on top of it, the most impossible horse in the race with the least distinguishiable silks.

sumitas 05-02-2009 09:49 PM

hey, he's a small horse . hard to see . give tom a break .

_ed_ 05-02-2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Time to let Mark Johnson call the race to all....Great call on his part.

Yeah, very good call I thought. His only mistake was that went back to the English (and correct :p ) way of pronouncing Derby near the end of the race, but that's forgivable.

v j stauffer 05-02-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
Calling at Churchill is not easy... they run straight at you, literally. Its the horses shoulders and the jockey's sleeves for much of the stretch.

The crazy part about this Derby... there were three horses with the same silks (Winstar) and two others with the same silk (Bernie/Atomic).

All three Winstar horses had white caps. I'd have gone ballistic with the colors man!!

ateamstupid 05-02-2009 10:48 PM

To be fair, there's no way in hell any of you figured Mine That Bird would be exploding away from the pack. Durkin was probably too shocked to spit it out.

The Indomitable DrugS 05-02-2009 10:52 PM

Yeah - imagine the embarassment of calling that horse en route to a runaway win when it turns out it was some remotely logical horse that wasn't out of contact with the rest of the field early on.

The candance of his call wasn't Durkin-esque smooth when that huge inside move was made to the lead ... I think he saw it - but either couldn't believe what he was seeing enough to say MTB's name or perhaps he simply didn't know which horse it was making the move.

Danzig 05-02-2009 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Yeah - imagine the embarassment of calling that horse en route to a runaway win when it turns out it was some remotely logical horse that wasn't out of contact with the rest of the field early on.

The candance of his call wasn't Durkin-esque smooth when that huge inside move was made to the lead ... I think he saw it - but either couldn't believe what he was seeing enough to say MTB's name or perhaps he simply didn't know which horse it was making the move.

covered in mud as they were, he probably had to refer to his notes-by then, the move was made.

Suffolk Shippers 05-02-2009 11:41 PM

I'm not gonna give him a hard time for this call. Who the fu*k expected Mine That Bird to come storming up the rail? It was equal to the day Denman missed Street Sense in the BC Juvy. I was only miffed at Trev that day because I bet SS with two hands and I have trouble picking the saddle towel numbers when they are all purple.

Tom was probably utterly stunned, as was I, sitting on my couch. I didn't have words either.

CSC 05-03-2009 12:03 AM

LOL I had to laugh, another thread about lousy announcers.

copying 05-03-2009 12:29 AM

I had to listen to the race on the radio. I had no idea what the hell was going on. The first time Durkin mentioned MTB, the field was entering the far turn - the next time was when he was 4 lengths in front nearing the wire. Please retire Durkin!

onebadbeast 05-03-2009 12:45 AM

Like Tom Landry, Durkin, The Game Has Passed You By. The Call Was Like The Call Of A Buffoon! I Couldnt Even Get The Race Here In Berlin Until 15 Min After.

DaTruth 05-03-2009 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
All three Winstar horses had white caps. I'd have gone ballistic with the colors man!!

Why does Zayat insist on putting the "Z" on the front of the jockey's cap? It isn't like you can't already pick out his silks 1,500 feet away without binoculars. Pilots landing at Bluegrass airport have been known to remark, "Hey, I see that Zayat has a horse running."

westcoastinvader 05-03-2009 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
I'm not gonna give him a hard time for this call. Who the fu*k expected Mine That Bird to come storming up the rail? It was equal to the day Denman missed Street Sense in the BC Juvy. I was only miffed at Trev that day because I bet SS with two hands and I have trouble picking the saddle towel numbers when they are all purple.

Tom was probably utterly stunned, as was I, sitting on my couch. I didn't have words either.

In the 1986 Kentucky Derby call, Ferdinand is not mentioned the entire race until he and Shoemaker make the lead just before the finish.

Trust me on this. It's one of my fave Kentucky Derby tapes and I've watched it scores of times.

All of ABC's 90 minutes.

:-)

DaTruth 05-03-2009 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader
In the 1986 Kentucky Derby call, Ferdinand is not mentioned the entire race until he and Shoemaker make the lead just before the finish.

Trust me on this. It's one of my fave Kentucky Derby tapes and I've watched it scores of times.

All of ABC's 90 minutes.

:-)

Here is the race. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuMp9AjKqf0

PatCummings 05-03-2009 01:30 AM

I'm convinced that catching that late move on the rail is one of the toughest things for an announcer - and almost every announcer is going to hesitate before calling the name of a rank outsider to take the lead inside the furlong marker of the Kentucky Derby - you literally want to make sure you are correct. Tough.

westcoastinvader 05-03-2009 01:31 AM

My miff on this year's telecast is more with NBC on the cameras.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think they had a single shot in the telecast that showed the vast difference between Mine That Bird and the rest of the field in the early going.

I understand no isolated camera, but there should have always been a broad shot available to catch the entire field.

westcoastinvader 05-03-2009 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth

Thanks.

Now it's "scores," plus one!

PatCummings 05-03-2009 01:40 AM

Only the Godolphin pair had different hats for the same silks. Crazy the WinStar tri-entry didn't.

DaTruth 05-03-2009 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by westcoastinvader
Thanks.

Now it's "scores," plus one!

I wish I could watch my racing tapes from the 1980s, but the tapes are in the Beta format and my Betamax broke when I finally sat down to begin the task of putting them all on DVDs.

westcoastinvader 05-03-2009 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth
I wish I could watch my racing tapes from the 1980s, but the tapes are in the Beta format and my Betamax broke when I finally sat down to begin the task of putting them all on DVDs.

Fortunately my first recording device was VHS, circa 1985.

Until recently I thought I had the entire 90 minute telecast of every Kentucky Derby since 1986.

Ironically, the other night I went searching for the 1996 Grindstone derby after catching a recent feature video of him.....I think on bloodhorse.com

Turns out, I don't have the 1996. But thinking about it, I was between wives in that period.

I must have been busy with other things....

:)

Merlinsky 05-03-2009 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by _ed_
Yeah, very good call I thought. His only mistake was that went back to the English (and correct :p ) way of pronouncing Derby near the end of the race, but that's forgivable.

How is it correct to pronounce Derby like "Darby"? If we're messing around with things like swapping vowel sounds, I'll just start pronouncing IEAH as "thrrp."

_ed_ 05-03-2009 03:19 AM

Do you pronounce everything exactly how it's spelt?

I just think it's correct because that's how the race it's named after is pronounced. Anyway, it was just a random comment and a spectacularly unsuccessful attempt at humour, at about the quality level you can expect from me when I'm bored at work.

Scurlogue Champ 05-03-2009 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky
How is it correct to pronounce Derby like "Darby"? If we're messing around with things like swapping vowel sounds, I'll just start pronouncing IEAH as "thrrp."

The same way it is correct to pronounce Paris (pah-ree)

I'm as American as anyone, but we do say it wrong.

I like hearing guys at the OTB in Kentucky pronouncing that Juddmonte horse Champs Elysees as if they never had a history class.

parsixfarms 05-03-2009 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky
How is it correct to pronounce Derby like "Darby"?

Or Versailles as "Ver-sales," as they do in Kentucky?

Linny 05-03-2009 07:05 AM

The race was named after the "Derby Stakes" in England and THAT race is pronounced dArby after Lord Derby, pronounced Darby. Ask Lord Derby about the pronunciation. It's been going on for centuries.
Every other racing nation that runs races called "Derbies" uses the British pronunciation.

I get a kick out of "Champs El-EE-es" as if the horse were from Ver-Sales KY!

SlewsMyHero 05-03-2009 07:06 AM

I love Durkin, but his call was reminiscent of Denman's call or miscall of Street Sense in the BC Juvenile. In all fairness, Mark Johnson did not catch the big move early either. He did call the winner sooner than Durkin did, but it wasn't like he saw him in early stretch. Johnson made the call just as MTB was taking the lead. I think announcers just get used to horses rallying on the outside and sometimes just don't see the ones that sneak up on the rail. All in all, I thought Mark Johnson's call was clearly superior to Durkin's.

Travis Stone 05-03-2009 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer
All three Winstar horses had white caps. I'd have gone ballistic with the colors man!!

This is so true. When race calling with the same silks, at least in my opinion, you can verify the horse by other markings, jockey style or in the worst case, by its saddle cloth. In the Derby, however, with three horses of the same silk and virtually no chance of seeing a saddle cloth... yikes. You're in the "look through the rest of the field for the other two first" territory. Brutal.

basement bob 05-03-2009 08:29 AM

i love tom durkin, but it's time he retired, he just dosen't have it anymore.


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