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gales0678 04-27-2009 08:01 AM

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Scuds you are right on again

friday night rivera blows it in the 9th after the yanks leave 18 runners on base

who has a chance to put their team back in the lead in the 10th? give the team a lift get some mojo back , who other than our new hero - M. Teixeira


pepelbon threw the high heat and mark sure gave it a $20mm dollar swing , it wasn't the result i wanted to see or all the other fans in ny but i kinda had a feeling scuds was going to be right on again and he was

sat - just another joke , burnett gets a 6-0 lead and just coughs it up

the only positive for the weekend was the shalacking the yanks gave to beckett , but, even that too didn't matter in the end

Crown@club 04-27-2009 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
Scuds you are right on again

friday night rivera blows it in the 9th after the yanks leave 18 runners on base

who has a chance to put their team back in the lead in the 10th? give the team a lift get some mojo back , who other than our new hero - M. Teixeira


pepelbon threw the high heat and mark sure gave it a $20mm dollar swing , it wasn't the result i wanted to see or all the other fans in ny but i kinda had a feeling scuds was going to be right on again and he was

sat - just another joke , burnett gets a 6-0 lead and just coughs it up

the only positive for the weekend was the shalacking the yanks gave to beckett , but, even that too didn't matter in the end

Eugenio Velez!!!

2 Dollar Bill 04-28-2009 09:36 AM

I wonder what the score would of been on Saturday if they played that game in Coors Field---East Coast ? :zz:

ateamstupid 04-28-2009 12:01 PM

Get off Scuds' nuts Marty. Are we gonna get one of these threads lionizing the prophet Scuds every time Teixeira strikes out?

gales0678 04-28-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Get off Scuds' nuts Marty. Are we gonna get one of these threads lionizing the prophet Scuds every time Teixeira strikes out?

no not every time he strikes out

i haven't watched all the games to be honest

and if this was against the brewers in milwaukee on a friday night in april i probably would not have had the same reaction as i did

the bottom line is the ny yankee fan has been consumed with winning the world series, beating the mets and beating the red sox

even though faliures of other teamates led to the 10th inning , you're sitting there watching this guy come up , men on base , chance to undo what rivera just blew a 1/2 inning earlier - going against the top rival in the al east over the last 15 yrs going against theire Rivera - you have a shot to be a difference maker , you have a shot in that spot to tell everyone in NY you are a $20 mm man and i can handle the big spot - i'm sitting there watching it and watching it closely and scuds was dead on - tex didn't get it done , he failed in his 1st big spot that night - i see it as black and white joey , plain and simple he failed

Antitrust32 04-28-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Get off Scuds' nuts Marty. Are we gonna get one of these threads lionizing the prophet Scuds every time Teixeira strikes out?


personally... I love every thread Gales starts about it because it just reminds me of how bad the Yanks suck..

Fucl< the Yankees!

Cannon Shell 04-28-2009 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
no not every time he strikes out

i haven't watched all the games to be honest

and if this was against the brewers in milwaukee on a friday night in april i probably would not have had the same reaction as i did

the bottom line is the ny yankee fan has been consumed with winning the world series, beating the mets and beating the red sox

even though faliures of other teamates led to the 10th inning , you're sitting there watching this guy come up , men on base , chance to undo what rivera just blew a 1/2 inning earlier - going against the top rival in the al east over the last 15 yrs going against theire Rivera - you have a shot to be a difference maker , you have a shot in that spot to tell everyone in NY you are a $20 mm man and i can handle the big spot - i'm sitting there watching it and watching it closely and scuds was dead on - tex didn't get it done , he failed in his 1st big spot that night - i see it as black and white joey , plain and simple he failed

And like the vast majority of Yankee fans you fail to understand baseball. A player is worth what they produce over a 162 game schedule + the playoffs if applicable. That production includes defense as well as hitting. Beating the Red Sox only counts as one win. There are no polls or strength of schedules in baseball. "Handling a big spot" is much easier against pitchers other than Papplebon. Once again, the Yankees have far more issues than they or their fans care to admit but 1st base isnt one of them.

ateamstupid 04-28-2009 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
And like the vast majority of Yankee fans you fail to understand baseball. A player is worth what they produce over a 162 game schedule + the playoffs if applicable. That production includes defense as well as hitting. Beating the Red Sox only counts as one win. There are no polls or strength of schedules in baseball. "Handling a big spot" is much easier against pitchers other than Papplebon. Once again, the Yankees have far more issues than they or their fans care to admit but 1st base isnt one of them.

Seriously, the pitching is awful. Even when CC and Burnett come around, the bullpen is a joke. They'd better get Joba back out to the 8th inning when Wang comes back, because there's absolutely no bridge to Mariano right now. Teixeira should be the least of Yankee fans' worries.

Cannon Shell 04-28-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Seriously, the pitching is awful. Even when CC and Burnett come around, the bullpen is a joke. They'd better get Joba back out to the 8th inning when Wang comes back, because there's absolutely no bridge to Mariano right now. Teixeira should be the least of Yankee fans' worries.

I have no idea why they didnt keep Joba in the 8th inning spot until Rivera retires? He was absolutely dominating in that role and probably would be a great closer. They could have 7 inning games with that combo but instead the screwed up his arm trying to stretch him out. Now that Yankee stadium is the new Coors that two inning punch would be even more effective.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-28-2009 02:35 PM

Tex has a shot at getting into the HALL (as 1st baseman with most career walks....he appears determined to obtain this goal.)

SCUDSBROTHER 04-28-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
Eugenio Velez!!!

13 at bats........ If he played regularly, he would get that in 3 games. I thought hitting about .350 in September(playing regularly) would of gotten him a regular job. I was wrong about that. If plays daily, I think the youngsta will hit, and run very fast. Hopefully, he gets traded to a team that will play him daily. Emmanuel Burris got the job at 2nd base(by hitting .400 in spring training.) He is like 2 for 40 as a left-handed batter this year. They aren't gunna keep doing that too much longer. They can either call up Frandsen, or use Velez. The guy playing in Left Field is hitting for average, and OBP. He has exactly 1 RBI all year !!! 20 hits...1 RBI. Velez will get a lot more RBI, but his OBP won't be as good(Lewis has 10 walks.) Lewis and Burris do some really stupid stuff(baseball I.Q. for both is s-hit.) Tonite, Lewis dropped the easiest flyball all year(AND IT LED TO A CHEAP RUN.)

SCUDSBROTHER 04-28-2009 02:49 PM

Tex ain't a star. You gettin' that kind of JAK , then you should be a star. He's just an o.k. player. I'd give Victorino 20 mil a year before I'd give it to Tex. At least Victorino is a stimulant, and can hit some difficult pitches in the post. Tex is unproven in the post. He's a 10-12 mil/ year guy gettin' paid 20 mil for being a good citizen.

Cannon Shell 04-28-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Tex ain't a star. You gettin' that kind of JAK , then you should be a star. He's just an o.k. player. I'd give Victorino 20 mil a year before I'd give it to Tex. Atleast Victorino is a stimulant, and can hit some difficult pitches in the post. Tex isn't prooven in the post. He's a 10-12 mil/ year guy gettin' paid 20 mil for being a good citizen.

Shall we go over the numbers again?

SCUDSBROTHER 04-28-2009 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Shall we go over the numbers again?


No, he isn't a star. They got him to drive in runs, and he's walking himself into being Cannon's favorite OBP KEN DOLL. He's hitting .197, and has 10 RBI. He will do better, but I am not a big fan of 1st baseman getting 20 mil a year to walk to 1st base.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-28-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Seriously, the pitching is awful. Even when CC and Burnett come around, the bullpen is a joke. They'd better get Joba back out to the 8th inning when Wang comes back, because there's absolutely no bridge to Mariano right now. Teixeira should be the least of Yankee fans' worries.


I think TEX should of been the last concern of the Yankee GM during the Winter. Thinking too much about spice when he didn't even have a fkn dish.

gales0678 04-29-2009 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
And like the vast majority of Yankee fans you fail to understand baseball. A player is worth what they produce over a 162 game schedule + the playoffs if applicable. That production includes defense as well as hitting. Beating the Red Sox only counts as one win. There are no polls or strength of schedules in baseball. "Handling a big spot" is much easier against pitchers other than Papplebon. Once again, the Yankees have far more issues than they or their fans care to admit but 1st base isnt one of them.


i agree with you on the other problems


my main point was that the guy failed in a spot where he could have been a difference maker for that game (and it just so happens someone on this board said when the yankees signed him - watch - he won't be a difference maker - and that said individual herehas been correct about him so far)

Crown@club 04-29-2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
13 at bats........ If he played regularly, he would get that in 3 games. I thought hitting about .350 in September(playing regularly) would of gotten him a regular job. I was wrong about that. If plays daily, I think the youngsta will hit, and run very fast. Hopefully, he gets traded to a team that will play him daily. Emmanuel Burris got the job at 2nd base(by hitting .400 in spring training.) He is like 2 for 40 as a left-handed batter this year. They aren't gunna keep doing that too much longer. They can either call up Frandsen, or use Velez. The guy playing in Left Field is hitting for average, and OBP. He has exactly 1 RBI all year !!! 20 hits...1 RBI. Velez will get a lot more RBI, but his OBP won't be as good(Lewis has 10 walks.) Lewis and Burris do some really stupid stuff(baseball I.Q. for both is s-hit.) Tonite, Lewis dropped the easiest flyball all year(AND IT LED TO A CHEAP RUN.)

Velez got sent down Monday and recalled yesterday due to an injury. Velez is just a 25th man. OPS will never go past .700. .680 will be at best. He can play any position, but is a liability on the infield. For a team that lacks offense, they can't afford to put him on the field. Burriss is only 24 and part of their future. Considered the 2nd fastest player behind Bonifacio (who's falling flat on his face). If Burriss struggles, they'll just swap him with Frandsen, who is performing decently in Fresno. They'll keep both playing full time. Juan Uribe is in front of Velez as the 1st Utility infielder. I don't Velez will have a better chance for any team (unless its Cincy or Houston). Lewis, Rowand and Winn are the best Ofers they have on defense. Schierholtz is their top PH. They are going to go to him more in the stretch. Velez had a shot yesterday after Broxton walked in the tying run, and he whiffed chasing. His stance does not look good up there. Confidence could be shaken.

I agree with you on Fred Lewis. He belongs in the 1,2, or 8 spot. Actually trading Winn or benching Lewis to give Schierholtz more at-bats is what should be happening right now.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-29-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
Velez got sent down Monday and recalled yesterday due to an injury. Velez is just a 25th man. OPS will never go past .700. .680 will be at best. He can play any position, but is a liability on the infield. For a team that lacks offense, they can't afford to put him on the field. Burriss is only 24 and part of their future. Considered the 2nd fastest player behind Bonifacio (who's falling flat on his face). If Burriss struggles, they'll just swap him with Frandsen, who is performing decently in Fresno. They'll keep both playing full time. Juan Uribe is in front of Velez as the 1st Utility infielder. I don't Velez will have a better chance for any team (unless its Cincy or Houston). Lewis, Rowand and Winn are the best Ofers they have on defense. Schierholtz is their top PH. They are going to go to him more in the stretch. Velez had a shot yesterday after Broxton walked in the tying run, and he whiffed chasing. His stance does not look good up there. Confidence could be shaken.

I agree with you on Fred Lewis. He belongs in the 1,2, or 8 spot. Actually trading Winn or benching Lewis to give Schierholtz more at-bats is what should be happening right now.

Oh come on...Velez got Broxton's best 3 pitches all night. I don't know what Torre told him, but those three were nice pitches. They were "So Fancy!!" Guy needs to play daily. What would anybody's batting average be if they only got to face closers?

Cannon Shell 04-29-2009 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
i agree with you on the other problems


my main point was that the guy failed in a spot where he could have been a difference maker for that game (and it just so happens someone on this board said when the yankees signed him - watch - he won't be a difference maker - and that said individual herehas been correct about him so far)

I guess he will only have 500 more AB's to make up for that tragic AB. What exactly is a difference maker? The guy is the 2nd best 1st baseman in baseball, what more do you want?

Cannon Shell 04-29-2009 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Oh come on...Velez got Broxton's best 3 pitches all night. I don't know what Torre told him, but those three were nice pitches. They were "So Fancy!!" Guy needs to play daily. What would anybody's batting average be if they only got to face closers?

Velez is no difference maker

and you are right he should play every day...in Fresno.

docicu3 04-29-2009 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I guess he will only have 500 more AB's to make up for that tragic AB. What exactly is a difference maker? The guy is the 2nd best 1st baseman in baseball, what more do you want?

Over enough time he'll produce. NY gets in the heads of some players who aren't used to it but he is too good to stay cold for much longer

Cannon Shell 04-29-2009 11:52 PM

He didnt exactly light the world on fire in April in Atlanta last year either.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-30-2009 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Velez is no difference maker

and you are right he should play every day...in Fresno.


Where were you two when he was hitting .350(playing every game) during September? Was enough for you to avoid betting me about it. Go back. You'll see. I asked you guys many times, but you got scared off.

SCUDSBROTHER 04-30-2009 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Over enough time he'll produce. NY gets in the heads of some players who aren't used to it but he is too good to stay cold for much longer


Too good? How many career POST SEASON RBI's does this star Tex have? All I remember is the sac fly for 1 RBI. He's hitting about .200 with 10 RBI this season. He's getting paid twice what he should(cuz he's seen as good citizen-clean-cut tame.)

Crown@club 04-30-2009 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Where were you two when he was hitting .350(playing every game) during September? Was enough for you to avoid betting me about it. Go back. You'll see. I asked you guys many times, but you got scared off.

Grow Up with this you want to bet crap!

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Velez is money when the game is up for grabs. Who doesn't need somebody who thrives in that situation? If I put together a team, this guy is on that club somewhere. If he was on a good team, they would win how many more close games ?

This is what you said before. He had a shot Tuesday Night when Broxton couldn't find the K zone. Yes. Broxton threw a straight strike, and then threw 2 pitcher pitches. Zambrano and Gallardo are outhitting this guy.

I guess Bochy is a terrible manager.

MaTH716 04-30-2009 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by docicu3
Over enough time he'll produce. NY gets in the heads of some players who aren't used to it but he is too good to stay cold for much longer

It seems that NY (with the exception of Gales :zz: ) has been pretty leanient on Tex so far. I guess between the pitching/bullpen being at times just awful this season. The whole A-Rod season/injury saga. Then throw into the mix that David Wright and the team across town has been putrid at times too, equates to Tex flying under the radar with his slow start so far.
I like the guy and think he will be just fine. Especially after A-Rod gets back into the lineup and gives him a bit more protection. Just need more starts like they have gotten the last 2 nights and avoid meltdowns like they almost had last night.

gales0678 04-30-2009 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
It seems that NY (with the exception of Gales :zz: ) has been pretty leanient on Tex so far. I guess between the pitching/bullpen being at times just awful this season. The whole A-Rod season/injury saga. Then throw into the mix that David Wright and the team across town has been putrid at times too, equates to Tex flying under the radar with his slow start so far.
I like the guy and think he will be just fine. Especially after A-Rod gets back into the lineup and gives him a bit more protection. Just need more starts like they have gotten the last 2 nights and avoid meltdowns like they almost had last night.


make fun of me you want with all the dizzy stickers , if old man steinbrenner was functional this guy would be getting more heat than he is --that is a fact

MaTH716 04-30-2009 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
make fun of me you want with all the dizzy stickers , if old man steinbrenner was functional this guy would be getting more heat than he is --that is a fact

Incorrect. If he was functional they would have fired the pitching coach by now.

MaTH716 04-30-2009 10:15 AM

As far as the :zz: :zz: goes, you brought them on yourself with the Chicken Little act after one game in to the season.

gales0678 04-30-2009 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
As far as the :zz: :zz: goes, you brought them on yourself with the Chicken Little act after one game in to the season.


maybe so after that , but , your attempt at humor was based on what i said about friday night

gales0678 04-30-2009 10:31 AM

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Incorrect. If he was functional they would have fired the pitching coach by now.


i don't disagree with that , but no $20mm bust would have gotten a pass this long , the boys sure ain't like the old man , maddon or someone else would have buried him for a day in the papers already

MaTH716 04-30-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
maybe so after that , but , your attempt at humor was based on what i said about friday night

I know this is a big mistake, but could you please refresh my memory? You had a few gems last week and I forgot which one you are talking about.


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Originally Posted by gales0678
i don't disagree with that , but no $20mm bust would have gotten a pass this long , the boys sure ain't like the old man , maddon or someone else would have buried him for a day in the papers already

Isn't it a bit premature calling a guy a bust 11 games into a 8 year contract? Or did Scuds tell you to say that?

gales0678 04-30-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I know this is a big mistake, but could you please refresh my memory? You had a few gems last week and I forgot which one you are talking about.



Isn't it a bit premature calling a guy a bust 11 games into a 8 year contract? Or did Scuds tell you to say that?


maybe bust is a strong word , but, how is a disappointment , is that a better word for you ?- do you not think that the steinbrenners are not diappointed that he is hitting under .200 a month into the season , do you not think that not seeing him come thourgh in the clutch against the red sox in the 10 th inning wasn't a disappointment -

gales0678 04-30-2009 10:42 AM

[quote=MaTH716]I know this is a big mistake, but could you please refresh my memory? You had a few gems last week and I forgot which one you are talking about.


nope - i only commented about the boston game strike out

gales0678 04-30-2009 11:01 AM

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I think Tex is pretty far down on the Steinbrenner's frustration's. Tex wasn't brought in to change anything. He was just another high priced bat brought in for more firepower. They have never had problems scoring. Their achilles heel the past few years has been pitching. They spent a lot more money on pitching than they did Tex in the off season and what do they have to show for it? Their pitchers can't get through the 5th and their bullpen, minus an old Mariano is flat out bad.

The Steinbrenner's are STILL trying to fill their brand new stadium. Have you seen the amount of empty seats at these games? They had to cut the most expensive seats in HALF. As a betting man, I'd say that's what the Steinbrenner's are focused on and figuring out what to do with the pitching. Not Tex striking out in a series they were swept. That's not a problem, the pitching is.


the point of the whole thing is the pitching is bad i ain't saying there isn't problems there, but , go ahead and ask any of the steinbreners about tex so far and ask them how they felt about the strikeout in that spot - i'm sure a guy hiitng .195 and collecting $22.5 million is a major disappointment to them at this point -

scuds made a point about the guy being a differnce makers , and that is what he was brought in here to be - so far through 1 month of the season he has been a major disappointment

MaTH716 04-30-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
maybe bust is a strong word , but, how is a disappointment , is that a better word for you ?- do you not think that the steinbrenners are not diappointed that he is hitting under .200 a month into the season , do you not think that not seeing him come thourgh in the clutch against the red sox in the 10 th inning wasn't a disappointment -

Sure he has underachevied so far. But do you actually believe that he's going to hit .200 all season? He is a notorious for getting hot after the all star break. Obviously that doesn't give him a pass for the 1st half. Does it worry you that the pitching staff is 12th in the AL in ERA? They are 4th & 5th in the AL in AVG. and runs scored. So like I said, I'm more concerened about the pitching then the hitting. They are averaging over 5 runs a game and that's with Tex around .200 and A-Rod out of the lineup. The offense will be fine.
To answer your question about the game in Boston. Sure I would have seen him like to get a big hit off one of the top closers in the leauge. But he didn't and them losing that game goes squarely on Mariano's shoulders PERIOD! But I'll bet you Tex does collect a few big hits in the 141 games that's still left in the season.

gales0678 04-30-2009 12:14 PM

see below

gales0678 04-30-2009 12:14 PM

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Sure he has underachevied so far. But do you actually believe that he's going to hit .200 all season

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
? He is a notorious for getting hot after the all star break. Obviously that doesn't give him a pass for the 1st half. Does it worry you that the pitching staff is 12th in the AL in ERA? They are 4th & 5th in the AL in AVG. and runs scored. So like I said, I'm more concerened about the pitching then the hitting. They are averaging over 5 runs a game and that's with Tex around .200 and A-Rod out of the lineup. The offense will be fine.
To answer your question about the game in Boston. Sure I would have seen him like to get a big hit off one of the top closers in the leauge. But he didn't and them losing that game goes squarely on Mariano's shoulders PERIOD! But I'll bet you Tex does collect a few big hits in the 141 games that's still left in the season.

1)no
2)yes
3)agree
4)i would hope so


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