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Merlinsky 04-19-2009 11:14 PM

21 TB Polo Horses Mysteriously Drop Dead
 
http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/04/19/dead.horses/index.html

What could hit them all that fast? Something airborne? Some 40-60 total horses get cycled through per team during a match it said. You'd think there'd be signs of illness sooner than 2 collapsing if were something like West Nile.

Riot 04-19-2009 11:22 PM

A toxin or poison.

Indian Charlie 04-19-2009 11:25 PM

They read a post on DT where RollerDoc quoted SDJCOM.

justindew 04-20-2009 07:58 AM

I think I just heard on TV that it's now 21 horses dead. Not sure though.

I realize 25% of DT readers feel I "don't get it", but I have to think that these horses were administered some kind of concoction what was either supposed to enhance or hinder their performance, depending on who administered it.

dellinger63 04-20-2009 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew
I think I just heard on TV that it's now 21 horses dead. Not sure though.

I realize 25% of DT readers feel I "don't get it", but I have to think that these horses were administered some kind of concoction what was either supposed to enhance or hinder their performance, depending on who administered it.

I thought the same thing. Perhaps the concoction was to be diluted prior to administering?

richard burch 04-20-2009 08:17 AM

this is a very sad and scary story.

jezebel 04-20-2009 10:35 AM

Supposedly it was tainted steroids (Winstrol) administered by a South American vet (I'll see if I can find a link)

Riot 04-20-2009 10:45 AM

I think the tainted steroids theory has already been discounted (not sure). Lots of rumors flying. Nothing real on the veterinary lists yet.

Here's the most current info I just found: http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/30305180/

Antitrust32 04-20-2009 11:20 AM

rumor is that a vet injected them with SOMETHING (duh i guess)..

Really a sad story..

Coach Pants 04-20-2009 11:26 AM

Rumor is they died after being told they were goint to be the first to see Ralph Lauren's fall collection.

Merlinsky 04-20-2009 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justindew
I think I just heard on TV that it's now 21 horses dead. Not sure though.

I realize 25% of DT readers feel I "don't get it", but I have to think that these horses were administered some kind of concoction what was either supposed to enhance or hinder their performance, depending on who administered it.


http://news.aol.com/article/21-horse...o-match/435339

Yes 21 dead. They're also looking into the hay, water, etc. I suppose for a contaminant which totally makes sense. Are there any other horses currently exhibiting symptoms or are the rest seemingly healthy?

Riot 04-20-2009 11:52 AM

I heard there is one horse left alive, being treated on IV's.

My guess (and I don't know anything other than what's published in the news, and that's crazy speculative now) - possibly something wrong in the insect spray used on the horses.

RolloTomasi 04-20-2009 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Merlinsky
http://news.aol.com/article/21-horse...o-match/435339

Yes 21 dead. They're also looking into the hay, water, etc. I suppose for a contaminant which totally makes sense. Are there any other horses currently exhibiting symptoms or are the rest seemingly healthy?

The article you linked said many of the horses started to show symptoms right off the van. I wonder if carbon monoxide poisoning could be possible.

Merlinsky 04-20-2009 05:49 PM

They're about to cover the story on ABC News.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi
The article you linked said many of the horses started to show symptoms right off the van. I wonder if carbon monoxide poisoning could be possible.

I think they've heavily updated it since I first read it. There's a lot of new info. Hmm.

cowgirlintexas 04-20-2009 07:20 PM

From this article, it may take days or weeks to know for sure. How unfortunate and so sad for everyone involved :(

http://abcnews.go.com/US/Health/Wire...7377176&page=1

Sightseek 04-21-2009 08:24 AM

Just terrible. :(

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...y-horse-deaths

sumitas 04-21-2009 10:15 AM

Horrible beyond words . I'm guessing it must be a poison .

Merlinsky 04-21-2009 02:08 PM

I'm loving the clarity of this quote from that Bloodhorse article: "A combination of something with an error in something that was given to these horses caused this toxic reaction," he said."

MISTERGEE 04-22-2009 04:02 PM

tainted biodyl, 21-of the 26 horses were given it, 5 that were not are the only ones that lived

Rudeboyelvis 04-22-2009 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MISTERGEE
tainted biodyl, 21-of the 26 horses were given it, 5 that were not are the only ones that lived

http://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/ne...svc=7&cxcat=12

dellinger63 04-22-2009 05:31 PM

sickening considering how they died and obviously suffered.

Only can hope for a Chop-Chop Chavez II is the tyrant 'we' think he is

Riot 04-22-2009 08:55 PM

http://ph.merial.com/swine/products.asp

Biodyl (VR-1683)
Injection solution containing metabolic constituents (adenosine triphosphoric acid or ATP, magnesium and potassium aspartate, sodium selenite, and vitamin B 12) for debility, convalescence and myopathies.

COMPOSITION: Injectable solution
SELENIUM (sf of sodium selenite)........................0,045 g
POTASSIUM ASPARTATE....................1,000 g
MAGNESIUM ASPARTATE ....................1,500 g
Excipient containing cyanocobalamin 0050 g and 5000 g. glycine ......... qsp 100 ml

DOSAGE AND ADMINISTRATION:
Equine : Slow intravenous Injection of 20 ml every 4 to 5 days (4 to 5 -- injections in total).

31lengths 04-23-2009 11:51 AM

from CNN
 
Pharmacy that supplied medicine for polo ponies that later died says the medicine was incorrectly prepared.

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Riot 04-23-2009 12:42 PM

That compounding pharmacy (Francks) is well-known. They will be lucky to survive.

Big trouble for the compounding pharmacy world, and internet drug sales. Huge trouble.

Riot 04-28-2009 04:35 PM

It was verified today that the polo ponies died of an overdose of selenium.

Buffymommy 04-28-2009 05:50 PM

(HI everyone)

This story was very sad around here. Pharmacy is going to pay dearly for that mistake or their insurance company anyway.

I couldn't even watch the news reports as they made me cry. Very sad. RIP poor ponies.

largo1 04-28-2009 09:32 PM

Very sad indeed. Does anyone know whether the vet wrote the wrong amount of selenium or the pharmacy prepared it incorrectly? Either way, I would think the pharmacy should have caught it. I think selenium would have to be given in a ridiculously high amount to be that toxic that rapidly. If there is a vet or someone who knows more about selenium on this board, I'd like to hear your thoughts. My working horses are supplemented with selenium, as are many racehorses, for 2 reasons. I am in a low-selenium area, and the amount of selenium added to commercial horse feeds is at such a low dose as to be completely inadequate for a working horse. I have my horses tested at Michigan State every so often to make sure I'm on track with the selenium.

Suzanne

Danzig 04-28-2009 09:35 PM

i remember, vaguely, a discussion about selenium on this board a year or more ago. i think it's a touchy thing-something you need, but not very much of. this case bore that out only too well. a shame that a mistake cost so many horses their life.

Riot 04-29-2009 12:46 AM

The pharmacy has already publically said they prepared the prescription incorrectly (too much of an ingredient)

Yes, it was a high amount, but it doesn't take much. Sudden death like that happens with ruminants who are accidentally overdosed with selenium, too.

Merlinsky 04-29-2009 04:50 PM

Didn't they say it's not typical to give horses something like this the day of a match? Even if the pharmacy had prepared it properly, seems like its administration was unusual.

Riot 04-29-2009 05:31 PM

Some doctor not associated with the team said at one point it wasn't typical to give vitamins the day of a match (if I remember right)

But the horses were getting a mineral (electrolyte type) supplement to help with the heavy exercise workload they have at a match. That's why it's given, so nothing unusual about that. Wouldn't be much use to give it on a non-heavy-exercise day.


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