Thompson SERIOUSLY BLEW IT
 

When your horse, that had the lead and was passed, runs its projeced last quarter a FULL SECOND faster than its previous one, in other words, has enough to ACCELERATE to the wire, it follows that you've WAITED TOO LONG to shake it up.

This is almost exactly what happened to Hard Spun in the Derby.

i think rick porter blew it by changing jocks. wouldn't be the first time.

Oaklawn is notorious for producing odd fractions at a mile and an eighth. The horse just doesn't know how to 'turn off' and relax. He has a lot of talent but if he's ever going to stretch out he's got to stop running off early in longer races. The horses that ran with him early finished last and second last...

i think old fashioned will do ok at shorter, but i don't think he's a mile and a quarter horse. someone said go to the met mile, i agree!

My respect for Old Fashioned ability went up 100% after today. He's a game horse with a lot of talent. That said, I don't think they should go to the Derby. No point. The Mile Mile is crying out for him and he'd have a real shot at that race. Also, as Philski mentioned, that downhill finish at Oaklawn often produces weird finishing times.

i thought it was uphill?? lol hell, i've seen it said both ways, so who knows?

And this is shocking?

The guy was mediocre at Ellis Park year in and year out. Of course he's going to nut up in a big money race.

This is an interesting take.

The contrary opinion would be that OF finished well because of the slower penultimate quarter.

I think he could have asked earlier and he would have had the added benefit of not having Papa Clem "weighing down on him" from the outside the length of the stretch. Take it a step further and he could have come off the rail a little bit as well...

interesting that Papa Clem gets up to even terms while Thompson (red cap) is peeking behind him

i can't believe old fashioned got bet down like that.

It was a weak field on paper

In terms of Beyer's it was basically a two horse race, with Win Willy's big number under consideration as well.

I underestimated PC after he was beaten so easily on a moderate-paced lead in the slop. Maybe he hates the slop? Maybe FF is that much better ?

Old Fashioned won't be racing anywhere for a while..

http://www.drf.com/news/article/102938.html

Old Fashion and Win Willy are good 2 tier Horses. By looking back, Willies only big race was the Rebel. Other than that 35k,30k,15k races. I was fooled.
Old Fashion if he goes to the Derby need to find a great Jockey that can do the horse some justice.Now PC will make a splash.

I'm sorry for Larry Jones, I'm glad it isn't life threatening.

What the story with Old Fashion?

Old Fashioned is a really good race horse... because he's not 10 furlong Derby material doesn't mean he's not grade one. To me, he would have King's Bishop written all over him, unfortunately, he's hurt/out.

His career is over. Non-displaced slab fracture in his right knee.

Very sorry to read about Old Fashioned's injury. But I thought this race was over from the beginning as for as OF is concerned. The last thing I expected with that post was a sprint to the lead and hanging up such a number for the first quarter. Especially after the jock change.

please link to this updated decision to definitely retire him.

I can see why Larry could be sick.
So will PC be the only one coming out of the Arkansas series?
Wiily is done.

Willy may have regressed was not unexpected, but I thought he still closed pretty well to get 4th. Robertson says he will run all day, he could bounce back.

It is uphill late on the far turn and early stretch.

For the last time, it's downhill (in deep stretch at least).

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Guaranteed this won't be the last time. Next year when another horse runs a final 8th in 11 and change, we'll revisit it.

Wow, that is some crappy news on Old Fashioned. The horse had guts today.

I agree, he was really game. I wonder at what point the injury happened.

you sure about that part? folks are still talking on here about the tight turns at pimlico.

the cynic in me would say after he lost...but i'm sure that's not it. no telling really when.

What about the injury to Porter's ego. Now he will have to share the limelight with those Vinery folks.

perhaps they can get him not to wear a loud red sportscoat...


yeah, right.

At least he gets his Fox Hill silks worn for the big dance. There will be no change until the next loss by FF.

why? i knew he would be really short again. he lost because of the jockey, remember? so they put a new jockey on him and he lost again. what? the jockey blew it again. what a joke, the horse ain't that good, get over it ! i wish he didn't get hurt because suckers would of bet him again. maybe he would of got a third jock and the results would of been same.

i surely hope you're not telling me to get over it. i never thought of this guy as derby material, and was shocked he was at even-but i guess there's no accounting for taste with some folks and their money.

my money is fine, i stopped betting 4-5 shots years ago, especially when they can't get the distance. old fashioned is a good horse, he's no 4-5 shot at a distance. no matter who rides. i bet to win, taste has nothing to do with it. i was agreeing with you, but the thread is ridiculous. thompson blew it? how about the horse won't last over a mile. thats way more accurate!

it is ridiculous. but i thought the jock change was ridiculous. OF didn't lose his last two due to the rider.

and my comment about money was directed to those at oaklawn who sent him off at 1-1.