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Kasept 04-05-2009 04:07 PM

Mullins/Gato Go Win SCR story emerging
 
Quickly yesterday after Jeff Mullins' Gato Go Win was scratched from the Bay Shore, stories emerged at AQU that one of his grooms was caught trying to adminster to the horse while in the detention barn.. TTimes looks like they will have the first news story with details.

Headline only right now, but the assumption yesterday was a milkshake bullet was intended. It was very notable how subdued Mullins was after the Wood win.

BREAKING NEWS: Mullins tried to administer drug to Gato Go Win in detention barn
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/def...urce=equidaily


STORY NOW POSTED:
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/rac...tion-barn.aspx

Mullins allegedly violated detention barn rules
by Ed DeRosa

New York stewards scratched Gato Go Win from the Bay Shore Stakes (G2) on Saturday at Aqueduct after security personnel said they saw trainer Jeff Mullins attempting to administer a substance to the colt before the race.

Joe Mahoney, a spokesman for the New York State Racing and Wagering Board, said that security alleges Mullins brought a syringe into the detention barn.

The Bay Shore was the first leg of an all stakes pick four on Saturday at Aqueduct that included the Wood Memorial Stakes (G1), which Mullins won with I Want Revenge.

“Our stewards are investigating an incident inside NYRA’s detention barn on Saturday afternoon,” Mahoney said. “NYRA security personnel advised the stewards that Mr. Mullins was observed attempting to administer an over-the-counter product called Air Power to [Gato Go Win] in the security barn. He had also apparently taken a syringe into the security barn.

“As a result, the stewards directed that Gato Go Win be scratched, and they will be conferring on this later in the coming week … most likely Wednesday.”

Linny 04-05-2009 04:12 PM

That takes b@lls. :rolleyes:

HaloWishingwell 04-05-2009 04:13 PM

Waiting for the story but considering his past, would it be surprising? I WANT REVENGE might be in the hands of another angel, Dutrow?

slotdirt 04-05-2009 04:16 PM

Makes me want to vomit even more thinking of I Want Revenge as the probably Derby favorite.

parsixfarms 04-05-2009 04:24 PM

Seeing how this necessitated a scratch, I imagine that the stewards will have to fine and/or suspend him. And if Dunkirk were to draw in, his trainer would have a cloud over him due to the Wait a While positive at the Breeders' Cup. (Was there any ever resolution to that one?) Lovely timing for Waldrop and company.

slotdirt 04-05-2009 04:28 PM

I was just thinking about that - how serious an offense would this be? I'd expect in the heirarchy of offenses, it would be worse than getting caught after the fact. Would there be a chance if this proves true that Mullins would be suspended on May 2nd?

The Indomitable DrugS 04-05-2009 04:29 PM

I think it would be just wonderful to go from a Rick Dutrow Jr. trained Derby winner to a Jeff Mullins trained Derby winner.

I couldn't think of two trainers alive who have made such metoric rises from total obscurity to major circuit kingpins in such very short time. And now that they've paid their dues and stayed near the very top for five or six years ... don't they deserve to win the Derby more than their training counterparts who lack such Alchemistic genius?

Poor Larry Jones. All he can ever do is seem to run 2nd. I think the Derby Gods have frowned on him so because - while he does have the magic of a Dutrow or Mullins - he lacks the sheer hate-ability of those two.

Is hateability even a real word?

PPerfectfan 04-05-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell
Waiting for the story but considering his past, would it be surprising? I WANT REVENGE might be in the hands of another angel, Dutrow?

Oh without a doubt he will be with another trainer come Derby Day. What an idiot!:zz:

Linny 04-05-2009 04:43 PM

I have like this colt (IWR) all along insite of Mullins. They IEAH became involved and it got worse. Then he was extremely impressive in the Wood and I thought, WOW, I really want to like this colt. Then as he was being led back after the race the grooms actually stopped near me as I congratulated them. They adjusted his cooler and smiled and headed off and I thought, that's nice. These guys have a really good horse on their hands. Then I turned around to see the mob of owners coming down the stairs from the winners circle as the Carter horses began to assemble. They charged down the steps, never seeming to notice the horses already walking there.

One extreme to the other...

Danzig 04-05-2009 05:11 PM

lol
no wonder ieah didn't argue about keeping mullins as trainer; they seem to have a knack for using cheaters. it would be a lateral move from mullins to dutrow.

what a bunch of idiots. yeah, let's go admin in the detention barn. :rolleyes: perhaps sheer stupidity is a defense?

mclem0822 04-05-2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
I was just thinking about that - how serious an offense would this be? I'd expect in the heirarchy of offenses, it would be worse than getting caught after the fact. Would there be a chance if this proves true that Mullins would be suspended on May 2nd?

This could be very interesting, because you would think he would appeal, and delay any suspension to post Derby? But with all the rules changes and new testing policies, etc., etc, could they come down harder and quicker against him, and really make an example of him?

PPerfectfan 04-05-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
lol
no wonder ieah didn't argue about keeping mullins as trainer; they seem to have a knack for using cheaters. it would be a lateral move from mullins to dutrow.

what a bunch of idiots. yeah, let's go admin in the detention barn. :rolleyes: perhaps sheer stupidity is a defense?

No, I use to work in law enforcement and "aggravated dumbass" isnt a legal defense!!!!:D

Danzig 04-05-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
No, I use to work in law enforcement and "aggravated dumbass" isnt a legal defense!!!!:D


lol

i just can't believe that someone would be so absolutely idiotic to try this. i'm blown away.

Sightseek 04-05-2009 05:17 PM

Unbelievable.

dellinger63 04-05-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
Makes me want to vomit even more thinking of I Want Revenge as the probably Derby favorite.

Turn a negative into a possitive. Off drugs angle?

Danzig 04-05-2009 05:20 PM

it's really a shame that you have what is seemingly a good colt in i want revenge, and now this. there's NO WAY anyone can say that the colt(along with mullins other charges) isn't under a cloud of suspicion now.

Indian Charlie 04-05-2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
it's really a shame that you have what is seemingly a good colt in i want revenge, and now this. there's NO WAY anyone can say that the colt(along with mullins other charges) isn't under a cloud of suspicion now.

any horse trained by mullets is under suspicion. Especially when they pop like that. This other side story is irrelevant to me.

fpsoxfan 04-05-2009 05:28 PM

Let me put on my shock face. :eek:

It's really too bad. Guys like this should be booted from the game.

Danzig 04-05-2009 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
any horse trained by mullets is under suspicion. Especially when they pop like that. This other side story is irrelevant to me.

yeah, they are. which is why i didn't really warm to this horse. you can't trust that a horse being trained by one of these guys is all natural. how do you celebrate a top effort, when you're not so sure it's all above board? some might be able to, but i can't. it's why i got so disgusted after last years derby, and why i never cheered for curlin.

Duvalier 04-05-2009 05:31 PM

Air Power

AeWingnut 04-05-2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duvalier
Air Power


Guaifenesin Expectorant

Clears bronchial airways

Stall Mucker 04-05-2009 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
Makes me want to vomit even more thinking of I Want Revenge as the probably Derby favorite.

I heard a distressed and disturbed fan say something similar while at the Big A
on Saturday.

I guess then that vomiting will be done in epidemic proportions.

I have the fan's permission to use the vomiting quote in my book. ;)

10 pnt move up 04-05-2009 05:52 PM

This is very funny in a sick way, is there a better poster child then Mullins for all that is wrong in racing, from this idiotic episode to the bettors are idiots comment (which many people on the backstretch believe IMO).

eajinabi 04-05-2009 06:05 PM

I never understood why Mullins shipped his horse to AQU. WHen was the last time Mullins shipped a horse other than to Turf Paradise??

dagolfer33 04-05-2009 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I guess we should expect something like this from the guy who said bettors were stupid.

Jeff Mullins, "bettors are stupid"= "bettors dont know half of the illegal shiat we are trying to pull back here"

Scurlogue Champ 04-05-2009 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eajinabi
I never understood why Mullins shipped his horse to AQU. WHen was the last time Mullins shipped a horse other than to Turf Paradise??

He took one to Royal Ascot one year.

Didn't fare well, but him in a top hat was awesome.

top hat + gold chain=AWESOME

my miss storm cat 04-05-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scurlogue Champ
He took one to Royal Ascot one year.

Didn't fare well, but him in a top hat was awesome.

top hat + gold chain=AWESOME

He did okay... Mighty Beau was 5th in the King's Stand.

Kasept 04-05-2009 07:20 PM

Finish Line brand Air Power:
http://www.finishlinehorse.com/product/airpower.asp

Cannon Shell 04-05-2009 07:35 PM

For attempting to break the rules he should get a long suspension. While people's call for blood for fairly innocuous substances in minute levels found in post race tests are often misguided, intentionally attempting to break the rules should be dealt with harshly. Regardless of how useless the substance in question is. And Air Power is pretty useless in the grand scheme. The guy is a bad guy and he deserves whatever he gets. And his owners better realize that they are part of the problem too. This guy should get a 5 year suspension. Or worse.

chucklestheclown 04-05-2009 07:45 PM

Air power is not allowed?

pgardn 04-05-2009 07:47 PM

Security barns cant stop the mullet
haircut. Sampson-like qualities.
The effect on the frontal lobe
may contraindicate the use of
the mullet.

The pure bravado displayed
sneaking a syringe in... good lord.

dellinger63 04-05-2009 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
For attempting to break the rules he should get a long suspension. While people's call for blood for fairly innocuous substances in minute levels found in post race tests are often misguided, intentionally attempting to break the rules should be dealt with harshly. Regardless of how useless the substance in question is. And Air Power is pretty useless in the grand scheme. The guy is a bad guy and he deserves whatever he gets. And his owners better realize that they are part of the problem too. This guy should get a 5 year suspension. Or worse.


Wonder if criminal charges can be filed? The intent was there but the crime never occured, at least on this occasion.

Kasept 04-05-2009 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
Air power is not allowed?

NOTHING is allowed 6 hours before the race. The horse are in a detention barn just so they cannot be administered to...

Cannon Shell 04-05-2009 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chucklestheclown
Air power is not allowed?

Nothing is allowed in the detention barn. That is the whole purpose of the damn thing. Mullins needs to be made an example out of. He blatantly broke the rules, caught red handed. Regardless of what he was giving the horse, he needs to be dealt with severely. If the sport and NY in particular is serious about policing the sport, Mullins and the frequent violators crew needs to be slammed. This isnt the 3rd race at Turf Paradise. This is the trainer of possibly the Derby favorite blatantly violating the rules before that favorite runs in his final prep. What are the odds that IWR was going to also be illegally treated? 1-9? The Air Power is immaterial.

chucklestheclown 04-05-2009 07:52 PM

Obviously his watch was still on pacific time.

justindew 04-05-2009 07:55 PM

I think reaction to this is overly harsh, as the NTRA will undoubtedly dispatch a Blue Ribbon panel to investigate and give a thumbs up or a thumbs down.

I think this should be the last post on the subject until the NTRA has had a chance to weigh in.


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