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Kasept 04-03-2009 06:36 AM

4-3: Keeneland (Late P4)
 
Keeneland joins the daily lineups of action this weekend with three weeks of premium racing on tap... despite the synthetic main track. The Transylvania (Gr. III) serves as the opening day feature to get wagerers in the mood for what should be a tremendous Saturday across the country.


KEENELAND


POST-SCRATCHES


7th: OC/N3X, F&M-4+, 6f (P4, P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #3 Tiz to Dream 3-1: Fired fresh here last fall.. WON
Best Value: #5 SCR
Next Best: #6 Angel's Share 7-2 5th
Super Add: #8 Hadavision 6-1 4th


8th: ALW/N2L, 3yo, 7f (P3, DD, Super)

Most Likely: #11 Wildcat Brief 5-2: Perkins' red fastest; Must take to strip.. 10th
Best Value: #8 Checksandbalances 20-1: Sims a threat on return to MDN breaker.. 9th
Next Best: #10 Heart of a King 10-1 WON
Super Add: #3 Stratos 8-1 8th


9th: 21st Transylvania (Gr. II), 3yo, 8.5f-T (DD, Super)

Best Value: #1 Skipadate 8-1: Casse grey gets back to best footing.. 4th
Most Likely: #8 Stormalory 2-1: Stonerside-bred Darley colt an underlay here.. WON
Next Best: #5 Florentino 3-1: KMc's JPN-bred finally put it together.. 3rd
Super Add: #4 Southern Anthem 20-1: Gelding can boost exotics.. 5th


10th: MSW, 3yo-F, 8.5f (Super High 5, Super)

Most Likely: #1 Starship Angel 3-1 5th
Best Value: #9 Miss Cosmopolitan 10-1 11th
Next Best: #6 Tweeter 5-1 WON
Exotics Use: #11 Desert Rose Drive 8-1 6th
High 5 Play: #8 Sea Gull 12-1 8th


<$75 P4 Play:

7: 3-6-8
8: 8-11
9: 1-5-8
10: 1-6-9-11

3x2x3x4 = $72


Good luck!
Steve

Bogey 04-03-2009 06:46 AM

Steve, I'm 100% in agreement with you on the Transylvania. I expect Skipadate to run a big one and the others underneath as well. It would be a nice way to kickoff the weekend.

atolunch 04-03-2009 07:36 AM

Steve, please double check me, think Florentino is the #5 in the Transylvania, not the #6.

BOL with your plays!!

Scav 04-03-2009 08:00 AM

Steve, **** load of rain down here today, it has stopped now but it was pouring this morning at 6-7am-ish....

2MinsToPost 04-03-2009 09:57 AM

http://www.keeneland.com/racing/List...lItemsalt.aspx

changes up off the turf in the 5th

atolunch 04-03-2009 10:15 AM

1 1st Race -- NO CHANGES

2nd Race
#1--Jealous Again--Jockey change to John Velazquez
#1A--Foot the Bill--SCRATCH

3rd Race
#1--Berry's Pride--SCRATCH
#3--Fidgity Felon--SCRATCH

4th Race
#1--Singing Rose--Jockey change to John McKee
#3--River Barrow--(LA)

5th Race
#6--Manitowish Waters--(LA)

As of 10:40 a.m.:
Race has been taken OFF the turf course and will be run at 1 1/16 miles on the Polytrack.

#11AE--Triplequickhit--Jockey change to Alan Garcia

6th Race
#4--Warm Shower--(LA)
#7--Tantamount--SCRATCH

7th Race
#5--Secret Kin--SCRATCH

8th Race
#10--Heart of a King--Is a gelding

9th Race--Central Bank Transylvania (G3)
NO CHANGES


10th Race
#9--Miss Cosmopolitan--Jockey change to Jesus Castanon



Track Conditions, Maintenance & Weather
Friday, April 03, 2009 8:00 AM
The Polytrack is fast; the turf is yielding

Update: Race 5 has been pulled off the turf and will be run over the Polytrack at 1 1/16 miles; race 9, the Central Bank Transylvania, remains on the yielding turf
The Gallop Master will be used today after training, first with the tines set at 4 inches and again with the tines set at 3 inches. The Gallop Master will be used again after races 1, 2, 5, 6 and 9 with the tines set at 3 inches.

The current height of the grass on the turf course is 5 inches

The rail is up

atolunch 04-03-2009 10:21 AM

Xpress bet has the Transylvania OFF TURF.

Track is listing as still on, anyone know what the real status is??:confused:

Rudeboyelvis 04-03-2009 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atolunch
4th Race
#1--Singing Rose--Jockey change to John McKee
#3--River Barrow--(LA)
5th Race
#6--Manitowish Waters--(LA)


Never noticed (LA) in the late changes before - any ideas? both were already listed Lasix

swedejxn 04-03-2009 11:01 AM

If it does come off turf.... stormalory still a heavy favorite... but orthodox looks enticing depending on scratches....

Kasept 04-03-2009 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atolunch
Xpress bet has the Transylvania OFF TURF.

Track is listing as still on, anyone know what the real status is??:confused:

Turf Yielding says Xpressbet for the feature..

Kasept 04-03-2009 12:28 PM

First Kitten's Joy baby about to run at KEE... Ramsey-Maker #7 Cater to Kitten.

Kasept 04-03-2009 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
First Kitten's Joy baby about to run at KEE... Ramsey-Maker #7 Cater to Kitten.

2nd to the predictably impressive debutter from Ward...

philcski 04-03-2009 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Never noticed (LA) in the late changes before - any ideas? both were already listed Lasix

in kentucky they define lasix as (L) lasix or (LA) lasix adjunct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
First Kitten's Joy baby about to run at KEE... Ramsey-Maker #7 Cater to Kitten.

think he won the photo for second... nice big blaze on the face like dad. thought he was an underlay at 9/2.
wesley ward wins a 2yo race at keeneland, there's a shocker :rolleyes: why do they bother to run these races!

Kasept 04-03-2009 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by philcski
think he won the photo for second... nice big blaze on the face like dad. thought he was an underlay at 9/2.
wesley ward wins a 2yo race at keeneland, there's a shocker :rolleyes: why do they bother to run these races!

The photos were for 3rd and beyond. The Ramsey-Maker was well seperated from the rest of the field.

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-03-2009 01:10 PM

that horse was a rocket..

booner 04-03-2009 01:35 PM

Wesley Ward horse wins the 4th - 4/5 fav......

TVG folks keep talking about a speed bias. I don't see it. 3 clear leaders the first 3 races. The winner in the 4th towered over the field and the other who dueled for the lead faded bad.

I know it's early, but seems pretty fair to me so far. Have I judged something wrong?

booner 04-03-2009 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
that horse was a rocket..

No doubt. She was gone!! :eek:

booner 04-03-2009 01:40 PM

Hate that the 7 scratched out of the 6th race. Don't like the early favorite, gonna play a 1,4,10 box (originally posted the 3 by mistake - don't want her)

declansharbor 04-03-2009 02:20 PM

Gulfstream Late 4's

.50

2,5,8,9
2,3,9,11
5
2,4,6,8


$1

4,7,8
9,11,12
2,4,9
2


$59 total....Best of luck to those playing today!!!!

Kasept 04-03-2009 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
that horse was a rocket..

I told Thebby I've never seen a horse's legs move so fast. He ran like he had 6 legs.

philcski 04-03-2009 02:40 PM

finally the tote blows up a bit in the 6th... like the way the track is playing though, seems to be fair to all comers.

Suffolk Shippers 04-03-2009 02:44 PM

I thought this was a solid P4 sequence, well carded. Here's what I'm going with:

R7: 3-6-8
R8: 10-11
R9: 1-2-5-8
R10: 1-9-11

$72

philcski 04-03-2009 02:52 PM

I like the 7 in here a bit.

Suffolk Shippers 04-03-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
I thought this was a solid P4 sequence, well carded. Here's what I'm going with:

R7: 3-6-8
R8: 10-11
R9: 1-2-5-8
R10: 1-9-11

$72

Alive to $495, $1233 and $1100 something.

MisterB 04-03-2009 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suffolk Shippers
Alive to $495, $1233 and $1100 something.

ouch
good cappin though

Kasept 04-03-2009 04:44 PM

Nice that the Racing Form failed to have the correct minimum of the P4's at KEE... My own fault for not going to the KEE website and checking but I wouldn't have thought DRF would have it wrong. Didn't recall KEE having a .50 minimum.

booner 04-03-2009 04:49 PM

The minimum for the Pick 4 isn't listed on Brisnet's, either. Odd, since they have the minimum for the tri (.50) and super (.10)..........

Kasept 04-03-2009 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by booner
The minimum for the Pick 4 isn't listed on Brisnet's, either. Odd, since they have the minimum for the tri (.50) and super (.10)..........

boo,

Heard from a listener via Email that Xpressbet didn't have it correct in their wagering menu either. Sounds like the info wasn't sent out. Very frustrating.

Bigsmc 04-03-2009 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Nice that the Racing Form failed to have the correct minimum of the P4's at KEE... My own fault for not going to the KEE website and checking but I wouldn't have thought DRF would have it wrong. Didn't recall KEE having a .50 minimum.

This their third or fourth meeting with the $0.50 P4 (I'm sure they had it last spring, possibly '07 fall). I believe they were the first track to offer it.

booner 04-03-2009 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
boo,

Heard from a listener via Email that Xpressbet didn't have it correct in their wagering menu either. Sounds like the info wasn't sent out. Very frustrating.

twinspires did have it on their wagering menu, though (almost tempted to play, but thank goodness I passed)......

Suffolk Shippers 04-03-2009 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Nice that the Racing Form failed to have the correct minimum of the P4's at KEE... My own fault for not going to the KEE website and checking but I wouldn't have thought DRF would have it wrong. Didn't recall KEE having a .50 minimum.

I noticed that when I logged on to make my play. I was tempted to revoke and revise, but I stuck with what I had and the $1 base. Despite the loss, I didn't like Tweeter in the last. Good news is, like baseball, we can go back at it tomorrow.

Heels1989 04-04-2009 01:55 PM

Follow up on the Keeneland $.50 P4 option on Xpressbet. The header for today's Race 7 still does not indicate "min $.50." But if you go to Wager on the P4, the $.50 option is available.


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