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blackthroatedwind 04-02-2009 05:30 PM

The New Saratoga NYRA/DRF Seminars
 
Here's the official announcement.....


http://nyra.com/aqueduct/stories/Apr022009.shtml

Danzig 04-02-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Here's the official announcement.....


http://nyra.com/aqueduct/stories/Apr022009.shtml


congrats on the gig as co-host, hope it goes well for you.

blackthroatedwind 04-02-2009 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
congrats on the gig as co-host, hope it goes well for you.

My role is no different than it was the previous summers or currently at NYRA.

gales0678 04-02-2009 05:57 PM

andy - any chance that when espn is town you guys can get a guest on from their crew for a day? say jerry bailey or hammering hank greenberg

Payson Dave 04-02-2009 05:58 PM

With all the high profile 2yo races at the Spa don't you need a "Clockers Comments" segment for the Saratoga shows...

blackthroatedwind 04-02-2009 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
With all the high profile 2yo races at the Spa don't you need a "Clockers Comments" segment for the Saratoga shows...


We're trying to keep the lying to a bare minimum.

pointman 04-02-2009 06:00 PM

Congrats, Andy. I give NYRA credit with the new approaches to handicapping they are taking and allowing people like me to learn how to become a better handicapper and enjoy this game more.

Harvey Pack will certainly be missed and is cannot be replaced, but I am certain that you three will do an excellent job and take the innovative approach of not only telling who you like in a given race, but, much more importantly, why you like a horse.

Next, I would love to see MSG pick up Trips and Traps so that I can watch those replays on my big screen TV instead of my computer. I know that you guys only get 30 minutes a day on MSG to play the replays of the days races, but it would really be great if they expanded that to 1 hour and showed the headon replays as well. I know that air time is valuable, but it is not like MSG is showing anything else worthwhile.

Payson Dave 04-02-2009 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
We're trying to keep the lying to a bare minimum.

good point.. but it's really just a form of dyslexia as opposed to actually lying when 39.1 instead of 36.1 or 49.3 instead of 46.3 ends up in the program

blackthroatedwind 04-02-2009 06:05 PM

As much as I love head-on replays, and you know I do, I don't think our viewership would be too strong for a show comprised of them.

We usually do a Trips&Traps segment on " Thoroughbred Weekly. "

The Indomitable DrugS 04-02-2009 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
andy - any chance that when espn is town you guys can get a guest on from their crew for a day? say jerry bailey or hammering hank greenberg

The great Jew baseball player who has been dead for over 20 years?

Or the former AIG CEO?

gales0678 04-02-2009 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
The great Jew baseball player who has been dead for over 20 years?

Or the former AIG CEO?


no the former jockey who knows saratoga well and was a major force in ny for years - couldn't he add something on travers day that could help the handicapper

as for greenberg he would make things exciting , but, it's the big heavy set guy who can't find a cashier at GP!

Payson Dave 04-02-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gales0678
andy - any chance that when espn is town you guys can get a guest on from their crew for a day? say jerry bailey or hammering hank greenberg

Liz Grey, Linda Rice, or even Chantal would get my vote before Bailey or Hank

The Indomitable DrugS 04-02-2009 06:20 PM

I don't think his last name is Greenberg....


Quote:

I leave you with Little Andy (Serling), my last and best gift to racing

Nothing against BTW, but I'm not so sure he stacks up well against the phrase "May the horse be with you."

Kasept 04-02-2009 06:28 PM

Now this.. this is fabulous news all around.

Congrats to Andy on receiving the baton pass as the deserving modern icon for NY racing's fan and wagering community... And to DRF/NYRA for putting this all together. It will be great having the Seminar in the Carousel..

Thanks to Harvey Pack for the warmth, wisdom and generosity for so long.. There won't be another like him. Interviewing him on ATR continues to be one of the greatest thrills I've had doing the show..

gales0678 04-02-2009 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
Liz Grey, Linda Rice, or even Chantal would get my vote before Bailey or Hank


chantal is out west , could always get Diane Nelson to come on or even Uske?

KirisClown 04-02-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept
Thanks to Harvey Pack for the warmth, wisdom and generosity for so long.. There won't be another like him. Interviewing him on ATR continues to be one of the greatest thrills I've had doing the show..

I must have missed that... Is there an archive of that interview available?

Linny 04-02-2009 06:35 PM

The Carousel is a great spot for seminars and I'm sure the program will be very good. As I have said several times, NYRA deserves credit for the changes they have made and their coverage of their product.

The Indomitable DrugS 04-02-2009 06:45 PM

I was at quite a few of the SIRO's Seminars in like '00, '01, '02, '03 ... they were good stuff.

Harvey was always great on those.

My favorite grouping was the rare one when they'd have Harvey, BTW, and a Ragozin sheet guy on to mix it up and get mocked by BTW.

Cannon Shell 04-02-2009 06:50 PM

No Jake Romans? Or is the NYS dept of Labor still investigating last years show?

blackthroatedwind 04-02-2009 06:53 PM

Harvey's remarkable. I had great fun joking with him. I wish I could remember all the funny things he said but I'll always remember him telling the Maven, who I happen to like a lot, that he sounded like a 900 number.

It's funny how many people misinterpreted how he used to tease me. It's hard to imagine anyone having been more generous to me than Harvey has been for many years.

HaloWishingwell 04-02-2009 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
The great Jew baseball player who has been dead for over 20 years?

Or the former AIG CEO?

Well if they can bring Greenberg back from the dead I doubt he'll be at Saratoga when the Tigers can use all the help they can't get. Besides today he would make about $25 million a year

-BT- 04-02-2009 08:06 PM

carousel restaurant? sorry i'm not too much of a regular at toga, was there last season but don't know where this located? and whats the seating gonna be like is there a max capacity?

thanks

-bt-

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-02-2009 08:09 PM

please make watchmaker look like the rube he is..i know this will be easy..

Payson Dave 04-02-2009 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by -BT-
carousel restaurant? sorry i'm not too much of a regular at toga, was there last season but don't know where this located? and whats the seating gonna be like is there a max capacity?

thanks

-bt-

do you know where the main Carolina BBQ is?? opposite that but upstairs ...2nd floor backside of the Grandstand... not far from the separation between the Grandstand area and the Clubhouse area

hoovesupsideyourhead 04-02-2009 08:22 PM

mawey wayains home turf

blackthroatedwind 04-02-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
do you know where the main Carolina BBQ is?? opposite that but upstairs ...2nd floor backside of the Grandstand... not far from the separation between the Grandstand area and the Clubhouse area


The Carousel is both floors. We will be on the first floor.

Payson Dave 04-02-2009 08:35 PM

Is there a restaurant downstairs also??? I only remember the bar.

pick4 04-02-2009 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Harvey's remarkable. I had great fun joking with him. I wish I could remember all the funny things he said but I'll always remember him telling the Maven, who I happen to like a lot, that he sounded like a 900 number.

It's funny how many people misinterpreted how he used to tease me. It's hard to imagine anyone having been more generous to me than Harvey has been for many years.

You can't be for real. It was obvious when Harvey would make a wisecrack towards you that it was all in jest. As I miss Thoughbred Action with Harvey Pack, I'll miss The Siro's Seminars with Harvey Pack. The baton has been passed down and I'm sure you guys will do a great job with the seminars.

blackthroatedwind 04-02-2009 09:30 PM

Thanks. You can't imagine how many people would say they thought Harvey was too hard on me and I would explain that it was all good fun.

It's not as though I never made fun of him.

blackthroatedwind 04-02-2009 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus
I don't see how this change is good at all.

You're just mad that Fischer isn't on the panel.

pick4 04-02-2009 10:37 PM

Harvey Pack is a legend but he's getting up in years and hopefully him and his wife are in good health. Change is a fact of life. I'm sure the seminars will go on and be very entertaining as well as informative.

SniperSB23 04-02-2009 11:06 PM

No Harvey? How can we keep Andy's head in check?

dylbert 04-02-2009 11:52 PM

Thanks, Harvey!
 
To Harvey,

May the horse be with YOU! Your knowledge, wit and humor made watching daily handicapping show a don't miss event.

The new format should prove informative and entertaining, too. An excellent team will share these daily duties. Actually, I thought Little Andy was his heir apparent. I will miss banter between Pack and Serling.

Best wishes to Harvey & Mrs. Pack and the new NYRA/DRF crew this coming season.

MisterB 04-03-2009 04:56 AM

Grab a pulled pork sandwich on the way in too!!! Standing room only, better get a seat early.

Hope Harvey can come up at least one time to bless the show, and shed a tear.

Congrats

TheSpyder 04-03-2009 07:01 AM

Harvey was the best and him and Andy were a comedy team made in heaven. I will really miss the show as it has been for so many years. I listened to most of the shows on the internet from SC and planned my day around it. I know, I have a sick life.

Anyway, best to you Andy and sure it will be great. Hopefully Harvey will be in the audience one day to rib you from a far.

Linny 04-03-2009 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Payson Dave
Is there a restaurant downstairs also??? I only remember the bar.

It's the location where Mary Ryan did her shows for years. There is general seating facing the host's raised dais and some table seating around it. There is a bar behind it. When sitting at the dais you are looking almost straight at the BBQ. It's not a restaurant, just self seating.
It's set up for sound, with mics etc. Biggest issue is that on rainy days it sounds like you are standing in a jet engine.

Andy, I can come over and heckle if you feel lonely without Harvey...

Immanuel Kant 04-03-2009 04:06 PM

Sad to hear this news , but happy that the seminars will continue in very good hands....

I agree with the voices that have praised NYRA for their attempts to create new interest.

Isn't the next obvious step a feature named in Harvey's honour?

freddymo 04-03-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
My role is no different than it was the previous summers or currently at NYRA.


Court Jester?


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