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brockguy 03-24-2009 07:05 PM

Dubai Duty Free
 
This race will be the best quality race for all of 2009.

Its about time this race (and the Sheema Classic) got equal billing with the World Cup!

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2009 07:11 PM

The World Cup is dreadful this year.

NTamm1215 03-24-2009 07:16 PM

The Duty Free will be a terrific race. It will not break my heart to see Kip Deville beaten handily at all.

NT

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2009 07:17 PM

Who are the good horses running?

brockguy 03-24-2009 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Who are the good horses running?

Which ones arent good horses?

my miss storm cat 03-24-2009 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
Which ones arent good horses?

:tro:

An absolutely stellar field!

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2009 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
Which ones arent good horses?

I have no idea who's running.

my miss storm cat 03-24-2009 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I have no idea who's running.

ALEXANDROS Godolphin UAE Saeed bin Suroor UAE
ARCHIPENKO
Sh Mohd Khalifa Al Maktoum & Dr AH Parker &
Mrs RMA Parker, M F De Kock, J Malherbe & Dr
J McVeigh, Hugo Merry
UAE Mike de Kock Sth Africa
BALIUS Sheikh Rashid bin Mohammed Al Maktoum UAE Abdulla bin Huzaim UAE
BANKABLE Ronchalon Racing UK Limited UK Mike de Kock Sth Africa
CHARLIE FARNSBARNS The English Girls UK Brian Meehan UK
CREACHADOIR Godolphin UAE Saeed bin Suroor UAE
GLADIATORUS Sh Mansoor bin Mohd Al Maktoum UAE Mubarak bin Shafya UAE
HYPERBARIC Prestonwood Farm Inc USA Julio Canani USA
JAY PEG E Braun, M Shirtliff, P Loomes, S Marcus Sth Africa Herman Brown Sth Africa
KIP DEVILLE
IEAH Stables, Andrew Cohen, Pegasus Holding
Group Stables, Resolute Group Stables & Steve
Cohen
USA Richard Dutrow USA
NICONERO Peter Bernard Devitt, Leslie Charles Gordon &
David Andrew Hayes AUS David Hayes AUS
PACO BOY The Calvera Partnership 2 UK Richard Hannon UK
PRESVIS Léonidas Marinopoulos UK Luca Cumani UK
RUSSIAN SAGE L M Nestadt, Team Valor & G Barber Sth Africa Mike de Kock Sth Africa
TUESDAY JOY Strawberry Hill Stud Syndicate AUS Gai Waterhouse AUS
VODKA Yuzo Tanimizu JPN Katsuhiko Sumii JPN

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2009 07:25 PM

Wasn't Paco Boy the horse who completely ran off with the Prix De La Foret? Has he run since? That was a huge effort.

Kip Deville will get completely smoked.

my miss storm cat 03-24-2009 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Wasn't Paco Boy the horse who completely ran off with the Prix De La Foret? Has he run since? That was a huge effort.

Kip Deville will get completely smoked.

That was him, don't think he's run since and yeah agree about Kip.

brockguy 03-24-2009 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
I have no idea who's running.

I was trying to be smart!

10 G1 winners (Archipenko, Creachadoir, Hyperbaric, Jay Peg x4, Kip Devile x4, Lady Marian, Niconero x5, Paco Boy, Tuesday Joy x4, Vodka x4)

Throw in the potential monsters Prevsis, Gladitorius and the multiple G1 placed Balius and you have a field that will be tough to match this year!

brockguy 03-24-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Wasn't Paco Boy the horse who completely ran off with the Prix De La Foret? Has he run since? That was a huge effort.

Kip Deville will get completely smoked.

Yeah he was unreal that day - hasnt raced since, its 2f more than his optimum trip though, he wont get the trip this early in the season.. He's a poor favourite!

my miss storm cat 03-24-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
I was trying to be smart!

10 G1 winners (Archipenko, Creachadoir, Hyperbaric, Jay Peg x4, Kip Devile x4, Lady Marian, Niconero x5, Paco Boy, Tuesday Joy x4, Vodka x4)

Throw in the potential monsters Prevsis, Gladitorius and the multiple G1 placed Balius and you have a field that will be tough to match this year!

Awww, don't leave out Russian Sage. He just hasn't won a G1.

YET. :)

brockguy 03-24-2009 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Awww, don't leave out Russian Sage. He just hasn't won a G1.

YET. :)

is he still running?

EDIT - he has won 3 G1s but isnt on racingpost's entries or on many of the bookmakers lists

my miss storm cat 03-24-2009 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
is he still running?

Yeah, far as I know... why wouldn't he?

The Indomitable DrugS 03-24-2009 07:36 PM

Happy Boy is starting to find his form after Godolphin butchered him.

Assuming he's actually entering - I'll take him in an upset in the World Cup.

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2009 07:37 PM

Aren't a bunch of these Group 1 horses South African which means they may not exactly be world class?

blackthroatedwind 03-24-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Happy Boy is starting to find his form after Godolphin butchered him.

Assuming he's actually entering - I'll take him in an upset in the World Cup.


Wasn't he a late scratch last year?

Coach Pants 03-24-2009 07:44 PM

Go Niconero!

my miss storm cat 03-24-2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Happy Boy is starting to find his form after Godolphin butchered him.

Assuming he's actually entering - I'll take him in an upset in the World Cup.

Good luck to you. Respectfully, I'm not seeing it.

3 races this season... 11th, 2nd, 2nd.

I think My Indy, Muller, Asiatic Boy, possibly Muhannak (Ryan Moore got the mount) and Well Armed have more of a shot but I'm wrong most of the time, so...

(These aren't picks... just who I'm finding interesting).

brockguy 03-24-2009 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Aren't a bunch of these Group 1 horses South African which means they may not exactly be world class?

yeah id agree with that - however, only Jay Peg that i mentioned won G1s in South Africa but he won the Duty Free last year (albeit at 50-1) and proved it was no fluke by winning in Singapore.

my miss storm cat 03-24-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
by winning in Singapore.

God that was an awful day (Ab Champ in the Krisflyer). :(

Don't forget, Archi won in HK...

http://www.hkjc.com/english/racing/r...2008&raceno=08

As far as being world class? I think Vodka has proved herself and some would argue the same for Tuesday Joy.

my miss storm cat 03-24-2009 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brockguy
is he still running?

EDIT - he has won 3 G1s but isnt on racingpost's entries or on many of the bookmakers lists

Thanks, Brock... wasn't sure if he had in SA or not!

I just saw odds where he's 16/1... guess we'll know after the barrier draw tomorrow!

brockguy 03-24-2009 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Thanks, Brock... wasn't sure if he had in SA or not!

I just saw odds where he's 16/1... guess we'll know after the barrier draw tomorrow!

not listed here either:
http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7544

my miss storm cat 03-24-2009 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy

Oh wow, first Imbongi doesn't get an invite, then Honour Devil is out and now this? :(

Oh well.

Thanks for the news, Brock. Sucks but thank you.

Damn.

Linny 03-24-2009 08:29 PM

Vodka was Japan's HOY last year, she's quite legit. Archipenko has run huge in Dubai, Hong Kong and the US where he was a decent 2nd in the Arlington Million.
Niconero won 2 G1's inside 7 days in OZ in jan and Feb. One at under a mile the other at abt 10f. He's won 4 G1's.
Lady Marian won the Prix Vermeille (?) on the Arc undercard, but 9f might be short for her.
Jay Peg has G1's in Dubai and Asia for deKock.
Tuesday Joy is a 5x G1 winner in Sydney.
Creachadoir has run well in Europe and Asia in G1 racing.

Hyperbaric and Presvis may be a bit lower class but their best is very good. Presvis has won 2 at the Carnival and seems to like the course.


The top 7-8 in this field are very good and very legit "world class" horses.

VOL JACK 03-24-2009 10:11 PM

I thought Vodka had a tough trip in her last... never had anywhere to run.
Of course Im not as smart as some others on this board. I need the PP's before I decide who I will bet.:D


Love the avatar, Brockguy. DRAMA!

peetsa 03-24-2009 11:09 PM

Hot off the presses 4 days early --- "VODKA CRUSHES FIELD IN THE DUBAI DUTY FREE!!!"

If you don't agree with this prediction, I totally understand, however, this is my bet for the race, because this horse had no room in his last race for a good 300 meters down the stretch and was just crying for room!!!
Easy winner if he gets a clean run.

200 wp
10 pik 3 Vodka
Quijano
Asiatic boy

5 pik 4 (if there is one) all
Vodka
Quijano
Asiatic boy

p.s. some people can come up with singles, they dont have to rely on picking 4 horses each race like some on this site.

Coach Pants 03-24-2009 11:13 PM

I'm leaving.

VOL JACK 03-25-2009 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peetsa
Hot off the presses 4 days early --- "VODKA CRUSHES FIELD IN THE DUBAI DUTY FREE!!!"

If you don't agree with this prediction, I totally understand, however, this is my bet for the race, because this horse had no room in his last race for a good 300 meters down the stretch and was just crying for room!!!
Easy winner if he gets a clean run.

200 wp
10 pik 3 Vodka
Quijano
Asiatic boy

5 pik 4 (if there is one) all
Vodka
Quijano
Asiatic boy

p.s. some people can come up with singles, they dont have to rely on picking 4 horses each race like some on this site.

Thanks for the Mush Job.

SCUDSBROTHER 03-25-2009 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peetsa
Hot off the presses 4 days early --- "VODKA CRUSHES FIELD IN THE DUBAI DUTY FREE!!!"

If you don't agree with this prediction, I totally understand, however, this is my bet for the race, because this horse had no room in his last race for a good 300 meters down the stretch and was just crying for room!!!
Easy winner if he gets a clean run.

200 wp
10 pik 3 Vodka
Quijano
Asiatic boy

5 pik 4 (if there is one) all
Vodka
Quijano
Asiatic boy

p.s. some people can come up with singles, they dont have to rely on picking 4 horses each race like some on this site.

LOL LOL LOL!!

brockguy 03-25-2009 07:02 AM

Have to say I strongly fancy Archipenko and Vodka to do the business here. There should be a strong pace with Jay Peg and Gladitorious in the field but these guys are adaptable enough and should be positioned handily.

One to look out for on the US pmu could be Prevsis. He's a G1 winner waiting to happen and he's only 8-1 with Bookies over here. He will surely be much bigger over in the States.. 9f may be a tad short for him, as I see him being a 10-12f performer throughout the year, but he is such an exciting horse..

my miss storm cat 03-25-2009 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peetsa
my bet for the race, because this horse had no room in his last race

... in her last race. :)

* * *

Russian Sage is in the Sheema Classic. Just thought I'd mention it. :)

PPerfectfan 03-25-2009 12:22 PM

Geauxx Vodka!!!Crush the boys!

Antitrust32 03-25-2009 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peetsa
Hot off the presses 4 days early --- "VODKA CRUSHES FIELD IN THE DUBAI DUTY FREE!!!"

If you don't agree with this prediction, I totally understand, however, this is my bet for the race, because this horse had no room in his last race for a good 300 meters down the stretch and was just crying for room!!!
Easy winner if he gets a clean run.

200 wp
10 pik 3 Vodka
Quijano
Asiatic boy

5 pik 4 (if there is one) all
Vodka
Quijano
Asiatic boy

p.s. some people can come up with singles, they dont have to rely on picking 4 horses each race like some on this site.


:rolleyes:

SCUDSBROTHER 03-25-2009 02:51 PM

Hyperbaric, I'm eternally grateful that you were able to lure T Baze away from SOCAL for even a few days (an example of God's bountiful mercy.)


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