Derby Trail Forums

Derby Trail Forums (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/index.php)
-   The Paddock (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   3/21 (TP): Lane's End (G2); Bourbonette Oaks (G3) Rushaway (http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28478)

Kasept 03-18-2009 04:54 PM

3/21 (TP): Lane's End (G2); Bourbonette Oaks (G3) Rushaway
 
8TH (4:39) Bourbonette Oaks (G3)

1 Mile (All Weather Track) | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Walloon Coa E M 121 LA
2 Fitz Just Right Velasquez C 121 LA
3 Step Out Smartly Leparoux J R 115 L
4 Super Poni Goncalves L R 115 LA
5 Foxy Bailey Desormeaux K J 115 LA
6 Stone Legacy Ocampo I 117 LA
7 Oculuna Lopez J 117 LA
8 Honchis'n Ponchis Prado E S 115 LA
9 Instrumentalist Gomez G K 115 LA
10 Hot Cha Cha Mojica O 117 L



9TH (5:11) Rushaway S.

1 1/16 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Ninth Client Ocampo I 115 L
2 Ziegfeld Gomez G K 115 LA
3 Fitzaslew Desormeaux K J 115 LA
4 Cliffy's Future Castanon J L 115 LA
5 No Inflation Velasquez C 117 LA
6 Summer's Empire Prado E S 121 LA
7 Sundays Baby Grand Zuniga J E 115 L
8 Toccet Rocket Pompell T L 115 LA



10TH (5:43) Lane's End S. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Hold Me Back Desormeaux K J 121 LA
2 Bittel Road Gomez G K 121 LA
3 A. P. Cardinal Velasquez C 121 LA
4 West Side Bernie Prado E S 121 LA
5 Jack Spratt Leparoux J R 121 LA
6 Parade Clown Coa E M 121 LA
7 Bruce N Autumn Lebron V 121 LA
8 Orthodox Castanon J L 121 L
9 Loch Dubh Borel C H 121 LA
10 Flying Private Ocampo I 121 LA
11 Dynamite Bob Guzman M 121 LA
12 Proceed Bee Prescott R 121 LA

Riot 03-18-2009 05:06 PM

There was a colt paddock schooling right before KNS race today, and boy, he has to be here for the Lane's End, VERY impressive looking, wish I knew who he was ... thin face stripe? Very dark bay/brown? Square, muscular?

slotdirt 03-18-2009 05:11 PM

That Lane's End looks like a pretty nice turf race.

slotdirt 03-19-2009 08:09 AM

...and finish 18th.

johnny pinwheel 03-19-2009 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
...and finish 18th.

i agree,the "poly" horses don't get my money until one at least hits the board in the derby. monba, dominican and the rest just didn't perform after the transfer. colonel john ran just ok. i love how people still don't get it. the figs, the current form and the performances just don't transfer. its like apples to oranges. look at i want revenge this year, they were calling him slow, until he hit the dirt runnning. the races in keenland are ridiculous because the "real " contenders are basically using it for training purposes (street sense) where they usually get beat by inferior "poly" horses. handicapping now is even harder because theres 3 surfaces, synthetic, dirt , turf. not a fan of the new surface, horses are getting hurt and many trainers say its worse not better. horses have run on dirt and grass for longer than they've been tamed. some men have enough ego to try to improve on mother nature, ain't happening.

Bobby Fischer 03-19-2009 08:31 AM

Jack Spratt could hit the board here. I have no idea what his Ml (i think the ml is up somewhere already?)
His FOY is going to add value with that ugly running line, but 9 lengths off a 45(from the gate @ GP Mile!) is a nice workout, and he was still 9 lengths off at the stretch. Only one work since but at least it is recent and solid. Came home the last 4 furlongs in less than 48 in the Dania.

Hold me back is kind of an unknown horse that you can't really toss with confidence.

West Side and Bittel have to be the top choices.

blackthroatedwind 03-19-2009 09:20 AM

West Side Bernie should be 2:5.

philcski 03-19-2009 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
Jack Spratt could hit the board here. I have no idea what his Ml (i think the ml is up somewhere already?)
His FOY is going to add value with that ugly running line, but 9 lengths off a 45(from the gate @ GP Mile!) is a nice workout, and he was still 9 lengths off at the stretch. Only one work since but at least it is recent and solid. Came home the last 4 furlongs in less than 48 in the Dania.

Hold me back is kind of an unknown horse that you can't really toss with confidence.

West Side and Bittel have to be the top choices.

One of the members of DT has a piece of jack spratt.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
West Side Bernie should be 2:5.

probably will be.

tiznowthegreat 03-19-2009 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot
There was a colt paddock schooling right before KNS race today, and boy, he has to be here for the Lane's End, VERY impressive looking, wish I knew who he was ... thin face stripe? Very dark bay/brown? Square, muscular?

It was Bernie

Bobby Fischer 03-19-2009 10:16 AM

10TH (5:43) Lane's End S. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Hold Me Back Desormeaux K J 121 LA 6-1
2 Bittel Road Gomez G K 121 LA 5-2
3 A. P. Cardinal Velasquez C 121 LA 10-1
4 West Side Bernie Prado E S 121 LA 3-1
5 Jack Spratt Leparoux J R 121 LA 8-1
6 Parade Clown Coa E M 121 LA 10-1
7 Bruce N Autumn Lebron V 121 LA 20-1
8 Orthodox Castanon J L 121 L 10-1
9 Loch Dubh Borel C H 121 LA 20-1
10 Flying Private Ocampo I 121 LA 12-1
11 Dynamite Bob Guzman M 121 LA 50-1
12 Proceed Bee Prescott R 121 LA 12-1

philcski 03-19-2009 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
10TH (5:43) Lane's End S. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles (All Weather Track) | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Hold Me Back Desormeaux K J 121 LA 6-1
2 Bittel Road Gomez G K 121 LA 5-2
3 A. P. Cardinal Velasquez C 121 LA 10-1
4 West Side Bernie Prado E S 121 LA 3-1
5 Jack Spratt Leparoux J R 121 LA 8-1
6 Parade Clown Coa E M 121 LA 10-1
7 Bruce N Autumn Lebron V 121 LA 20-1
8 Orthodox Castanon J L 121 L 10-1
9 Loch Dubh Borel C H 121 LA 20-1
10 Flying Private Ocampo I 121 LA 12-1
11 Dynamite Bob Guzman M 121 LA 50-1
12 Proceed Bee Prescott R 121 LA 12-1

Bittel Road as the favorite. LOLOLOL

Riot 03-19-2009 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiznowthegreat
It was Bernie

I don't think so, Tiz ... went and looked at pics of Bernie, he's darker and diff. conformation that this one. Ah well. Guess I'll just have to go to the race :p

tiznowthegreat 03-20-2009 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot
I don't think so, Tiz ... went and looked at pics of Bernie, he's darker and diff. conformation that this one. Ah well. Guess I'll just have to go to the race :p


I knew that he was schooling in the paddock during the first 3 races that same day so I assumed it was him. He is impressive to look at. Guess it might not have been.

Pedigree Ann 03-20-2009 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny pinwheel
i agree,the "poly" horses don't get my money until one at least hits the board in the derby. .

You mean you don't remember Hard Spun winning this race? I certainly collected money for him running second in the Derby.

Riot 03-20-2009 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiznowthegreat
I knew that he was schooling in the paddock during the first 3 races that same day so I assumed it was him. He is impressive to look at. Guess it might not have been.

Pics can look very different, too - I'll go see him in person. If you knew he was schooling, that had to be him, I didn't see any others around.

And if that was him, he was very impressive looking - maybe 1 race away? :rolleyes:

Mike 03-20-2009 10:26 PM

Orthodox might win as lone speed

I'll pass the whole Turfway card,though

JJP 03-21-2009 10:33 AM

West Side Bernie should cruise. Had no chance as speed ran 1-2 around the track in the Holy Bull, and speed ran 1-2-3 around the track in the BC Juvenile yet he was making up ground. Turfway never seems to favor the speed types.

Indian Charlie 03-21-2009 11:31 AM

I don't really get the love affair here with West Side Bernie. I could see him run fourth almost as easily as I can see him run winning.

Bobby Fischer 03-21-2009 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I don't really get the love affair here with West Side Bernie. I could see him run fourth almost as easily as I can see him run winning.

I agree. He could certainly win, but I don't see him as a lock. You can't ignore that the track is like a dust storm with all the kickback and Prado is aboard WSB. He might eat a ton of carpet fiber.

hockey2315 03-21-2009 11:50 AM

I'll take Parade Clown. . .

Bobby Fischer 03-21-2009 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cardus
Bittel Road will win the Lane's End and land in the Derby.

basically

pgardn 03-21-2009 12:47 PM

Looked at some video looked as some replays.
PP's.
Cant see bernie losing barring a clean race.

People that want to bet him should be happy
Bittel Road might keep the price a bit better. Maybe not
though (the unloading on Bernie).

No bet.

If you really like Bittel Road you must take him.
Bernie is going to siphon significant money.

Indian Charlie 03-21-2009 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Looked at some video looked as some replays.
PP's.
Cant see bernie losing barring a clean race.

People that want to bet him should be happy
Bittel Road might keep the price a bit better. Maybe not
though (the unloading on Bernie).

No bet.

If you really like Bittel Road you must take him.
Bernie is going to siphon significant money.

I think it might take Sir Isaac Newton himself to completely decipher your post.

Bobby Fischer 03-21-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I think it might take Sir Isaac Newton himself to completely decipher your post.

lolz i think he likes Bernie but not 100%

AeWingnut 03-21-2009 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Looked at some video looked as some replays.
PP's.
Cant see bernie losing barring a clean race.

People that want to bet him should be happy
Bittel Road might keep the price a bit better. Maybe not
though (the unloading on Bernie).

No bet.

If you really like Bittel Road you must take him.
Bernie is going to siphon significant money.

What do you teach again? Chemistry
or better living through chemistry?

Bobby Fischer 03-21-2009 04:32 PM

Bernie is being wayyyy overbet right now @ 3/2

5-2 on Bittel Road is actually playable.

a 2-5(jackspratt) exacta is an extremely dissapointing $35/1

stonegossard 03-21-2009 04:37 PM

I think Dynamite Bob is a lock here.

Bobby Fischer 03-21-2009 04:39 PM

jack spratt looking good in the post parade. Leparoux knows his way around that track and this is a pretty weak ass field. he should be in the top 4 , could even win the thing

declansharbor 03-21-2009 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
Bernie is being wayyyy overbet right now @ 3/2

5-2 on Bittel Road is actually playable.

a 2-5(jackspratt) exacta is an extremely dissapointing $35/1

Really? I would beg to differ.

I bet and keyed on Proceed Bee. :o

Post is disadvantageous, but the win on the strip and square price are positives.

Bobby Fischer 03-21-2009 04:40 PM

now bittel is getting bet...
kind of an unbettable race unless you like someone obscure

I'll just root for Bittel and Jack Spratt and have a good time

ninetoone 03-21-2009 04:41 PM

Flying Private to win.

Bobby Fischer 03-21-2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declansharbor

I bet and keyed on Proceed Bee. :o

that's a good angle. He did well in the prep , jockey knows how to stay out of the dust cloud while most of these name jockeys are lucky if they learned something out of the rushaway r9

ninetoone 03-21-2009 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninetoone
Flying Private to win.


Almost!!

Bobby Fischer 03-21-2009 04:51 PM

boy that race was...
it was something

kgar311 03-21-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riot
There was a colt paddock schooling right before KNS race today, and boy, he has to be here for the Lane's End, VERY impressive looking, wish I knew who he was ... thin face stripe? Very dark bay/brown? Square, muscular?

Was that him???

Indian Charlie 03-21-2009 04:53 PM

I bet you PG1985 had that exacta and tri cold.

Bobby Fischer 03-21-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
I bet you PG1985 had that exacta and tri cold.

it was right there in his post

at least the time was decent. Looked like a fairly smart ride from Desormeaux was hard to see on xpressbet window. Have to watch the replays later. Looked like Prado took Bernie INSIDE! instead of up near and outside.

KirisClown 03-21-2009 05:33 PM

In case someone missed it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwDzxJaerPk

.

Rudeboyelvis 03-21-2009 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KirisClown
In case someone missed it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwDzxJaerPk

.


Most pathetic race call evar


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:45 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.