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Alan07 03-09-2009 03:01 PM

3/14 (FG): Louisiana Derby Day
 
5th (3:36) Bienville S.

Abt. 5 1/2 Furlongs (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $75,000

1 Shilla Mena M 116 L
2 Taletobetold Leparoux J R 118 L
3 Solarana (ARG) Torres F C 116 L
4 Classify Bridgmohan S X 120 L
5 Break New Ground Hernandez B J Jr 116 L
6 Precious Kiss Graham J 116 L
7 Lady Chace Jacinto J 116 L
8 Le Cordon Bleu Lanerie C J 116 L
9 Coy Cat Albarado R J 116 L
10 Unfolding Wish Valenzuela P A 116 L



6th (4:07) FG Oaks (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $400,000

1 Our Dahlia Desormeaux K J 121 L
2 Four Gifts Albarado R J 121 L
3 Rachel Alexandra Borel C H 121 L
4 African Skies (GB) Prado E S 121 L
5 Flying Spur Valenzuela P A 121 L
6 War Tigress Graham J 121 L



7th (4:38) New Orleans H. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 It's a Bird Leparoux J R 120 L
2 Golden Yank Theriot H J II 118 L
3 Secret Getaway Desormeaux K J 116 L
4 Dry Martini Prado E S 117 L
5 Brothers Nicholas Graham J 116 L
6 Wishful Tomcat Espinoza V 117 L
7 El Caballo Lanerie C J 115 L
8 Good and Lucky Valenzuela P A 118 L
9 Slew's Tiznow Bejarano R 116 L
10 Honest Man Saez G 121 L
11 Macho Again Albarado R J 116 L
12 Richard's Kid Napravnik A R 116 L
13 Star Guitar Bourque C C 116 L
14 My Pal Charlie Velazquez J R 119 L



8th (5:10) Mervyn Muniz Jr. Memorial H. (G2)

Abt. 1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

2 Brass Hat Borel C H 113 L
3 My Happiness (ARG) Bridgmohan S X 115 L
4 Golden Yank Theriot H J II 116 L
5 Wesley Velazquez J R 115 L
1 Windward Islands Lanerie C J 118 L
6 Soldier's Dancer Bejarano R 119 L
7 Sir Whimsey Saez G 114 L
8 Corrupt Albarado R J 118 L
9 El Caballo Leparoux J R 114 L
10 Nownownow Prado E S 116 L
11 Demarcation Castanon J L 116 L
12 Transduction Gold Mena M 116 L
1A French Beret Graham J 117 L
13 Proudinsky (GER) Espinoza V 119 L

A-Coupled: Windward Islands and French Beret



9th (5:45) Budweiser Louisiana Derby (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $600,000

1 Free Country Desormeaux K J 122 Blk-On L
2 Soul Warrior Bridgmohan S X 122 Blk-On L
3 Patena Albarado R J 122 L
4 Terrain Leparoux J R 122 Blk-Off L
5 Flying Pegasus Velazquez J R 122 L
6 Giant Oak Graham J 122 L
7 Uno Mas Hernandez B J Jr 122 L
8 Papa Clem Bejarano R 122 L
9 Friesan Fire Saez G 122 L
10 Nowhere to Hide Lanerie C J 122 L



10th (6:20) Duncan F. Kenner S.

6 Furlongs | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 Kodiak Kowboy Saez G 121 L
2 Ikigai Bridgmohan J V 121 L
3 Greeley's Conquest Theriot H J II 117 L
4 Lanzera Albarado R J 117 L
5 Garifine Mena M 117 L
6 Success Success Borel C H 117 L
7 Sok Sok Bridgmohan S X 117 L
8 Tend Leparoux J R 117 L

ateamstupid 03-09-2009 03:17 PM

:eek: at the New Orleans. Nice to see full fields. Should be a great day of racing.

Scav 03-09-2009 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
:eek: at the New Orleans. Nice to see full fields. Should be a great day of racing.

I'll 2nd that. Great card

smuthg 03-09-2009 03:27 PM

I thought that Pyro's little sis was going to run in the oaks...

tiznowthegreat 03-09-2009 03:28 PM

Weather isn't supposed to be very good, hopefully it stays decent. 5 of the 12 races carded are on the grass, hopefully they stay on.

brianwspencer 03-09-2009 03:28 PM

Wow, that's going to be a huge day...

And let's not forget

6 Colonel Klink (IL) 3 Gelding 122 Jesus Lopez Castanon

Sightseek 03-09-2009 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smuthg
I thought that Pyro's little sis was going to run in the oaks...

She got injured and won't make the KY oaks either.

Scav 03-09-2009 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Wow, that's going to be a huge day...

And let's not forget

6 Colonel Klink (IL) 3 Gelding 122 Jesus Lopez Castanon

Trackside might explode, whole crew to be there....

brianwspencer 03-09-2009 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Trackside might explode, whole crew to be there....

Yep, I think I'm even going to peel myself away from my new TV to come hang out for the card.

Scav 03-09-2009 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer
Yep, I think I'm even going to peel myself away from my new TV to come hang out for the card.

Exactly, I am even making an appearance instead of going at it from home :)

It is actually double dip for BGR, Fading Light at Turfway also

Travis Stone 03-09-2009 03:49 PM

Bang-up card...

FGFan 03-09-2009 04:10 PM

Yes, it's going to be a very exciting day!!!!


Weather outlook for this week is pretty much 20% UNTIL Saturday then it's flucuating between 30 and 40%, will see what happens as we get closer. But it is very dry down here right now...some rain could actually help the turf course. It's quite warm right now almost 90 out...but supposed to cool to the mid 70's for Saturday.

And I shall get you pics of the Col. in the paddock...then again might not need to as the cameraman does a pretty good job of that....;) :D

Linny 03-09-2009 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smuthg
I thought that Pyro's little sis was going to run in the oaks...

Injured.


I was wondering where Nownownow was and why he wasn't in the Big cap on the Poly. Good to see him on the weeds, though there looks to be more sand than grass on that "turf" course.

FGFan 03-09-2009 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linny
Injured.


I was wondering where Nownownow was and why he wasn't in the Big cap on the Poly. Good to see him on the weeds, though there looks to be more sand than grass on that "turf" course.

Yes, it's been very, very dry down here which is unusual this time of year...supposed to get some rain this week, hopefully will tweak it.

Bigsmc 03-09-2009 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FGFan
Yes, it's been very, very dry down here which is unusual this time of year...supposed to get some rain this week, hopefully will tweak it.

No sprinklers?

AeWingnut 03-09-2009 04:29 PM

Road To The Roses
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan07
9th (5:45) Budweiser Louisiana Derby (G2)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $600,000

1 Free Country Desormeaux K J 122 Blk-On L
2 Soul Warrior Bridgmohan S X 122 Blk-On L
3 Patena Albarado R J 122 L
4 Terrain Leparoux J R 122 Blk-Off L
5 Flying Pegasus Velazquez J R 122 L
6 Giant Oak Graham J 122 L
7 Uno Mas Hernandez B J Jr 122 L
8 Papa Clem Bejarano R 122 L
9 Friesan Fire Saez G 122 L
10 Nowhere to Hide Lanerie C J 122 L

I have 4 of them in my Road To The Roses

kiss of death
I imagine they will all finish last, 2nd to last and so on.

AeWingnut 03-09-2009 04:31 PM

the turf course is freightening. I saw a horse step in a hole and that was it

other than that the card looks very very nice.

FGFan 03-09-2009 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
No sprinklers?

:D

No, sprinklers not available at the FG....:p

Seriously though, it's just not as good as the rain, I guess because we have such sandy/silty soil down here.


Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut
4 Terrain Leparoux J R 122 Blk-Off L

I have 4 of them in my Road To The Roses

kiss of death
I imagine they will all finish last, 2nd to last and so on.

Hope not!!!

I think Terrain was schooling in the paddock this past Saturday..couldn't really tell for sure..but Al Stall jr. was there with him...lots of grooms and the horse really stood out, we were all trying to figure out who it was, but I think it was Terrain.

Antitrust32 03-10-2009 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
No sprinklers?


water restrictions.

slotdirt 03-10-2009 10:39 AM

I have four of those LA Derby starters as well, meaning the one I leave off my active horses will surely win the race in a romp. As of today, that's Free Country.

NTamm1215 03-10-2009 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slotdirt
I have four of those LA Derby starters as well, meaning the one I leave off my active horses will surely win the race in a romp. As of today, that's Free Country.

I wouldn't worry too much, I have that slowpoke also. I'll be surprised if he cracks the exacta.

NT

dellinger63 03-10-2009 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scav
Trackside might explode, whole crew to be there....


Let's hope so and for no rain!

dellinger63 03-10-2009 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut
I have 4 of them in my Road To The Roses

kiss of death
I imagine they will all finish last, 2nd to last and so on.

Same problem but only common horse is Freisen. Now must decide between him, Papa Clem, Flying Peg and Giant Oak. Right now giant oak sits. Other 2 slots filled for sure w/Old Fash and Pioneer of Nile. Nice to have a bunch though for sure.

Danzig 03-10-2009 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
Same problem but only common horse is Freisen. Now must decide between him, Papa Clem, Flying Peg and Giant Oak. Right now giant oak sits. Other 2 slots filled for sure w/Old Fash and Pioneer of Nile. Nice to have a bunch though for sure.

i think you might want to use giant oak.

dellinger63 03-10-2009 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i think you might want to use giant oak.

Don't get me wrong I'd love to see him win and will have to include him in bets but he may prefer turf and poly IMO. Maybe someone will scratch.

slotdirt 03-10-2009 01:04 PM

Yeah, I also have Old Fashioned and Pioneer of the Nile.

FGFan 03-10-2009 01:10 PM

Now up to 60% rain for Saturday, but not saying when. After the LeComte day forecast in Jan. they did have it right we would get alot of rain, but it came that night instead of during the day...so much for forecasting.

ateamstupid 03-10-2009 01:28 PM

I've found that forecasts should be ignored until two days before the race.

Kasept 03-10-2009 02:02 PM

ML odds

1--Free Country, Kent Desormeaux, Ken McPeek, 12-1
2--Soul Warrior, Shaun Bridgmohan, Steve Asmussen, 20-1
3--Patena, Robby Albarado, Richard Dutrow, Jr., 7-2
4--Terrain, Julien Leparoux, Al Stall, Jr., 10-1
5--Flying Pegasus, John Velazquez, Ralph Nicks, 8-1
6--Giant Oak, James Graham, Chris Block, 4-1
7--Uno Mas, Brian Hernandez, Jr., Steve Asmussen, 12-1
8--Papa Clem, Rafael Bejarano, Gary Stute, 8-1
9--Friesan Fire, Gabriel Saez, 5-2
10--Nowhere to Hide, Corey Lanerie, Nick Zito, 15-1

VOL JACK 03-10-2009 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
ML odds

1--Free Country, Kent Desormeaux, Ken McPeek, 12-1
2--Soul Warrior, Shaun Bridgmohan, Steve Asmussen, 20-1
3--Patena, Robby Albarado, Richard Dutrow, Jr., 7-2
4--Terrain, Julien Leparoux, Al Stall, Jr., 10-1
5--Flying Pegasus, John Velazquez, Ralph Nicks, 8-1
6--Giant Oak, James Graham, Chris Block, 4-1
7--Uno Mas, Brian Hernandez, Jr., Steve Asmussen, 12-1
8--Papa Clem, Rafael Bejarano, Gary Stute, 8-1
9--Friesan Fire, Gabriel Saez, 5-2
10--Nowhere to Hide, Corey Lanerie, Nick Zito, 15-1

I think that is a very good ML. I thought they might have made the mistake of putting a 6-1 on Patena. The Dutrow/IEAH group will bet him heavy, IMO.
I think I would take a shot on Flying Pegasus at those odds. I'm not a big R. Nicks fan but I think this horse has some real talent.

brianwspencer 03-10-2009 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VOL JACK
I think that is a very good ML. I thought they might have made the mistake of putting a 6-1 on Patena. The Dutrow/IEAH group will bet him heavy, IMO.
I think I would take a shot on Flying Pegasus at those odds. I'm not a big R. Nicks fan but I think this horse has some real talent.

I'm thinking that's the way I'll end up leaning...I also think Soul Warrior may run a big one too though, but it probably won't be enough with Fresian Fire, Patena, and Giant Oak all looking likely enough.

ateamstupid 03-10-2009 02:35 PM

I hear John Dooley and others say "Free-jun Fire" with a soft J, but it's spelled Friesan Fire, which reads "Freezin' Fire" to me.

/wait until SCUDS reads this

hoovesupsideyourhead 03-10-2009 02:46 PM

who will be 'getting reminders'..

Mike 03-10-2009 08:03 PM

I'm going with Papa Clem off his victory over I Want Revenge, and I think he may get a soft lead

Scav 03-10-2009 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike
I'm going with Papa Clem off his victory over I Want Revenge, and I think he may get a soft lead

It is one rough race to handicap

The Indomitable DrugS 03-10-2009 10:49 PM

I don't think it is.

I'd be pretty surprised if the winner isn't either Patena or Papa Clem.

Scav 03-10-2009 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
I don't think it is.

I'd be pretty surprised if the winner isn't either Patena or Papa Clem.

I originally had it those two plus Giant Oak. But then I see Flying Pegusus who is going to sit right behind Papa Chem/Freisan Fire. Terrain was ridden like a buffoon last time and will benefit to the Frenchie. Just figured I would look at it again later, let it sink in.

I am no fan of Jimmy Graham, he is VERY streaky, at least when I have paid attention, but he really fits Giant Oak well.

Scurlogue Champ 03-11-2009 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
i think you might want to use giant oak.

I think you might not want to.

Indian Charlie 03-11-2009 12:25 AM

I'm going chalk here, FF and Papa Clem.

I think FF may be sitting on a big effort here.

Bobby Fischer 03-11-2009 01:55 PM

La. Derby Ramble
 
Patena has a great pedigree, he has a gorgeous stride visually, has some bottom from running over that tiring woodbine surface, and every time Dutrow gets his hands on a somewhat talented animal they run a career best. I hope either Friesan Fire(my #1 Derby Contender) beats him outright so I can say "I told you so", or that Patena is so impressive that it overshadows a strong race from Friesan Fire and Patena gets all the attention and money. I think Patena is a quality horse who will be best from 7f to 1 1/16.

Papa Clem - will handle dirt fine, I think he will tire on this surface regardless of being on the lead. Is tough to toss.

Tossing Giant Oak from the exacta. I think his derby hopes end here(unless he re-groups in a possibly weak Blue Grass), but I know he has fans, so I hope he does well - i've been wrong before!

Uno Mas and Free Country have every right to clunk up for 3rd or 4th (hopefully both) to juice up a dime super or trifecta. Which may be my only play here since I like both favs and tossing a 3rd or 4th choice in Giant Oak


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