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IrishofNDMan 08-05-2006 09:51 AM

Invasor......
 
I think puts Flower Alley to sleep today!

ArlJim78 08-05-2006 10:02 AM

You and me both. my only concern is that the race is only 9 furlongs.
i think Invasor gets tougher as the distance gets longer.

BellamyRd. 08-05-2006 10:20 AM

I'm not sure that Invasor is even a word
Flower Alley & Sun King 1-2
folks, that's today's ICE COLD* EX.
(*copyright 2006~Jerry Cruz, Seattle, WA)

Danzig 08-05-2006 10:39 AM

siphon city and wanderin boy will take each other out in the front--wanderin boy would have a shot if he could take an easy lead, only way that will happen is if siphon city gets left at the break.

if i was going to bet, it would be a super. box flower alley, invasor, premium tap, wanderin boy.

flower alley and invasor both will be stalking the pace....who will get the run on whom at the top of the lane?
FA isn't fully cranked. invasor might have a leg up on him at this point in the year.

invasor on top, flower alley second...
premium tap would be my longshot bet.

BellamyRd. 08-05-2006 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig188
siphon city and wanderin boy will take each other out in the front--wanderin boy would have a shot if he could take an easy lead, only way that will happen is if siphon city gets left at the break.

if i was going to bet, it would be a super. box flower alley, invasor, premium tap, wanderin boy.

flower alley and invasor both will be stalking the pace....who will get the run on whom at the top of the lane?
FA isn't fully cranked. invasor might have a leg up on him at this point in the year.

invasor on top, flower alley second...
premium tap would be my longshot bet.

No, Danzig188, you've got it all wrong.

Pointg5 08-05-2006 11:34 AM

I think Invasor takes it today, because he has a conditioning advantage and he is a talented horse, but this is the last loss of FA's career today, I don't think he loses again. The others will be staring at his tail at the finish line from now on and that includes "he is here".

my miss storm cat 08-05-2006 12:29 PM

Invasor and..... you know, I'm not even gonna say his name anymore. People think I'm crazy as it is.:D

(Good luck, We Can Seek... just follow Invasor and you'll be fine).

Danzig 08-05-2006 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BellamyRd.
No, Danzig188, you've got it all wrong.

well that remains to be seen, doesn't it?

pgardn 08-05-2006 01:15 PM

Boys and Girls. I think we could have a pace meltdown. Siphon City and Wandering Boy can win on the front end. Your stalkers, which are abundant (Flower Alley, Invasor, Survivalist pushes these two hard) could be jostling to stay in range giving us stressful use of energy in the middle stages. Which could set up for the likes of Sun KIng and West Virginia. (That could be a big exacta if the race falls apart)

I think this is a very interesting race. I cannot wait to watch how it unfolds.

pgardn 08-05-2006 01:31 PM

To me the race is going to be determined if Flower Alley and Invasor run in tandem behind the leaders. I think this could really bother both horses. I feel that Invasor is more fit that Flower Alley and if both of them run in tandem behind the leaders it could spell trouble for both. If they do run in tandem I really like Survialist in this spot. Now if Flower Alley and Invasor do not run in tandem, then who gets first jump? Who gets first jump into solid fractions is the key. Could their be jockey error in knowing when to move??? CERTAINLY. But I look for either Invasor or Survivalist to win this race. My dark horse is West Virginia. I will be betting $80 to win on Invasor--$80 to win and place on Survivalist. Then I am going to key West Viginia with all and all in a trifecta.


Somewhat the same as I stated by Eurobounce. Interesting.

Bold Brooklynite 08-05-2006 01:53 PM

Flower Alley ... will not win this race.

Yeah ... I know ... pick a winner. But if I knew who the winner would be ... I certainly wouldn't tell anyone else.

Unless Invasor is the genuine goods ... and/or Siphon City has made a quantum improvement ... this is a very sad renewal of the Whitney ... a real bunch of stiffs for a major G1.

Downthestretch55 08-05-2006 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
Flower Alley ... will not win this race.

Yeah ... I know ... pick a winner. But if I knew who the winner would be ... I certainly wouldn't tell anyone else.

Unless Invasor is the genuine goods ... and/or Siphon City has made a quantum improvement ... this is a very sad renewal of the Whitney ... a real bunch of stiffs for a major G1.

Are you now a racing secretary for NYRA??? BB?
Geesh.

Both you and Pgardn should post your picks in the contest section.

Talk is cheap.

Bold Brooklynite 08-05-2006 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by War Emblem
You could be right! But I think Survivalist will win this one today. He is my long shot of the day.:D

As bad as this field is ...

... anyone who thinks Survivalist can win it ... is either loopy ... or ... he's spent too much time on that "other" forum.

That horse is really s - l - o - o -o - o - o - w.

It's not too late to save you dough, War. Do you still remember the old saying about doubting Bold Brooklynite?

TitanSooner 08-05-2006 04:11 PM

Sun King from the clouds

paisjpq 08-05-2006 04:47 PM

i love invasor--wanted to get that out before they run...

paisjpq 08-05-2006 04:54 PM

And I love hime even more after the race!!!!!

Downthestretch55 08-05-2006 04:55 PM

For those that had Invasor...Congrats! He just hung on to beat Sun King.

Nice pick for those that had him...I didn't.

my miss storm cat 08-05-2006 04:56 PM

Love him too!:)

2Hot4TV 08-05-2006 04:57 PM

As game a race horse that I've seen in awhile. He just wasn't going to let Sun King go by.

paisjpq 08-05-2006 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
As game a race horse that I've seen in awhile. He just wasn't going to let Sun King go by.

yup. that was heart!

ArlJim78 08-05-2006 05:03 PM

dead game for sure. I said earlier that he was the real deal today.
other than the debacle in dubai when he carried 130 pounds and was possibly drugged, this horse just refuses to lose. right now i see him as #1 in the US.

paisjpq 08-05-2006 05:05 PM

I got to meet him last weekend--he's very sweet.
I agree he's up there around #1, since lava man can't run outside Cali, and Bernardini hasn't faced older yet

Bold Brooklynite 08-05-2006 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
As bad as this field is ...

... anyone who thinks Survivalist can win it ... is either loopy ... or ... he's spent too much time on that "other" forum.

That horse is really s - l - o - o -o - o - o - w.

It's not too late to save you dough, War. Do you still remember the old saying about doubting Bold Brooklynite?

Hey, War ...

... I hope you remembered how that saying goes ... you know ... "never, ever doubt Bold Brooklynite."

No surprise that this slowpoke finished last.

TitanSooner 08-05-2006 05:18 PM

OUCH. That one hurt. Just nosed out..

Downthestretch55 08-05-2006 05:31 PM

And by the way...who exactly DID Bold Bkl'n say would win?
Search ALL the threads. You won't find a winning pick.
Find this red boarder for what he is...
He'll tell you who won't win, but not who WILL!

PUFF! BLUFF! GUFF! BSISH-UFF!

Never a winner...just a loser.

Cajungator26 08-05-2006 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
And by the way...who exactly DID Bold Bkl'n say would win?
Search ALL the threads. You won't find a winning pick.
Find this red boarder for what he is...
He'll tell you who won't win, but not who WILL!

PUFF! BLUFF! GUFF! BSISH-UFF!

Never a winner...just a loser.

Yep, because he's a loser himself.

IrishofNDMan 08-05-2006 06:42 PM

cashed the tri..........
 
I had a tri 2 with 5,9 with 6. I had only 10 dollars in bets on the race and i cashed that 2 dollar ticket. Yes!

GenuineRisk 08-05-2006 07:08 PM

All i know is I'm starting to get really excited for the BCC. And I have a soft spot for Sun King, as I do for all Charismatics, so I'm really happy with his finish. I thought it was a really exciting race.

I had to work today, but I finally figured out how to make the fracking DVR work. Figures it would be the thought of missing a Grade One that got me desperate enough to figure it out.

GPK 08-05-2006 07:49 PM

Sun King getting up for 2nd ruined me....absolutley ruined me....

I am beginning to hate this horse....he screwed me on BC day when he won that Grade 3 race (2nd race on the card) by beating SCOOBY T with Jerry Bailey up and him not giving two sh*ts about winning that race. Totally F*d up my DD i had going there where I singled Gotaghostofachance in the first race.

Sun King....I no like you .....:mad:

Gander 08-05-2006 07:53 PM

Kev-
I think Magna Graduate won that 2nd race on BC Day. Not Sun King. I dont think Sun King was in that race.

Habersham000 08-05-2006 07:54 PM

Gander is right Manga won that race and not Sun King....Sun King was not in the race

Danzig 08-05-2006 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk
All i know is I'm starting to get really excited for the BCC. And I have a soft spot for Sun King, as I do for all Charismatics, so I'm really happy with his finish. I thought it was a really exciting race.

I had to work today, but I finally figured out how to make the fracking DVR work. Figures it would be the thought of missing a Grade One that got me desperate enough to figure it out.

hope you saw his gouldings green won the other day.

sun king has been knocking on the door fairly often lately, in the money finish in the met...second a few weeks ago to premium tap got him ready for today. narrow loss.

very, very nice run by invasor. nice to see. he certainly seems to like it here in the u.s.--and certainly belies the notion that dubai will ruin a horse.

flower alley...well, i just don't know. i've never been high on the horse--and didn't believe his second in the bcc last year warranted his top spot in all the polls all year. so what now for him? i know todd didn't have him cranked up--but wow. i'm sure he expected far more than what flower showed today.

GPK 08-05-2006 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gander
Kev-
I think Magna Graduate won that 2nd race on BC Day. Not Sun King. I dont think Sun King was in that race.


OH...i knew it was one of those grade 3 type horses....all of them look the same to me....:mad:

Cajungator26 08-05-2006 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
OH...i knew it was one of those grade 3 type horses....all of them look the same to me....:mad:

I think you owe Sun King an apology. LMAO

GPK 08-05-2006 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I think you owe Sun King an apology. LMAO


Nope...he screwed up my tri today....

Cajungator26 08-05-2006 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Nope...he screwed up my tri today....

Nope... you screwed up your tri today by not having HIM in it! :p

eurobounce 08-05-2006 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgardn
Boys and Girls. I think we could have a pace meltdown. Siphon City and Wandering Boy can win on the front end. Your stalkers, which are abundant (Flower Alley, Invasor, Survivalist pushes these two hard) could be jostling to stay in range giving us stressful use of energy in the middle stages. Which could set up for the likes of Sun KIng and West Virginia. (That could be a big exacta if the race falls apart)

I think this is a very interesting race. I cannot wait to watch how it unfolds.

PGARDn--Boy we were right on with our analysis of the race. But I was real disappointed with Survivalist. I was happy to see Invasor win and I liked how West Virgina came on at the end. Stnks when you have $80 to win on the winner and still lose a few bones. Scary how we both saw this race. I guess great minds think alike.

GenuineRisk 08-06-2006 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Nope...he screwed up my tri today....

GPK, are you and I going to have to take this outside? :)

Danzig, no; I missed that race you mentioned. How did the horse look? I have GOT to get a subscription to Race Replays.


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