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Kasept 02-02-2009 07:50 PM

2/7 (FG): Risen Star; Mineshaft; SBD; Fair Grounds H. (Gr. III's)
 
6th (2:55) Mineshaft H. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 Secret Getaway Graham J 119 L
2 Good and Lucky Valenzuela P A 120 L
3 Smokeyjonessutton Theriot H J II 112 Blk-Off L
4 Grasshopper Albarado R J 119 L
5 My Pal Charlie Bourque C C 121 L
6 Coragil Cat Hernandez B J Jr 114 L
7 Brothers Nicholas Prado E S 116 L
8 Honest Man Saez G 119 L



7th (3:25) Fair Grounds H. (G3)

About 1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

2 Jimmy Simms Bridgmohan S X 117 L
3 Sidcup Campbell J M 117 L
1 French Beret Graham J 120 L
4 Corrupt Albarado R J 118 L
1A Windward Islands Lanerie C J 118 L
5 Diamond Tycoon Leparoux J R 116 L
6 My Happiness (ARG) Prado E S 114 L
7 Demarcation Castanon J L 120 L
8 (MTO) Brothers Nicholas Graham J 115 L

A-Coupled: French Beret and Windward Islands



8th (3:55) Silverbulletday S. (G3)

1 1/16 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Four Gifts Albarado R J 122 L
2 More of the Best Castanon J L 116 L
3 War Echo Bridgmohan S X 116 L
4 Flying Spur Valenzuela P A 116 L
5 Garter Belt Lanerie C J 116 L
6 Southern Yankee Saez G 122 L
7 Just Jenda Thompson T J 122 L
8 War Tigress Hernandez B J Jr 120 L



9th (4:29) Risen Star S. (G3)

http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...les_137992.pdf

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Map of the World Bourque C C 116 L
2 Indygo Mountain Theriot H J II 116 L
3 Nowhere to Hide Lanerie C J 116 L
4 It Happened Again Thompson T J 120 L
5 Uno Mas Hernandez B J Jr 120 L
6 Friesan Fire Saez G 122 L
7 Giant Oak Prado E S 120 L
8 Dumar Bridgmohan S X 120 L
9 Code of Honour Toups R 116 L
10 Soul Warrior Valenzuela P A 116 L
11 Summer's Empire Campbell J M 122 L
12 Flying Pegasus Albarado R J 120 L
13 Au Moon Leparoux J R 116 L

deltagulf 02-02-2009 08:17 PM

yea steve you beat me to it was just going to put up the draws for sat at fair grounds. should be a good day of racing.:tro: :tro:

brianwspencer 02-02-2009 08:40 PM

wow, a couple of really good races.

can't wait to see how giant oak and summer's empire fare here -- loved the former's two wins at AP and think the latter's going to turn out okay after all.

and good old Sidcup shows up. love that guy.

PPerfectfan 02-02-2009 10:46 PM

Well I know where I will be Saturday! I have been waiting for this race. Hopefully I will be able to get up close and get some good pics. I will be pulling for My Pal Charlie and Indygo Mountian. I know Indygo Mountian hasnt really shown much but I really like him.

Kasept 02-03-2009 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPerfectfan
I will be pulling for My Pal Charlie and Indygo Mountian. I know Indygo Mountian hasnt really shown much but I really like him.

Don't think that it's a case of Indygo Mountain not showing much as it is a case of him having about as rotten luck as any horse out there to this point. Between getting off schedule losing time to the bruised hoof and then the nightmare in the Lecomte, he's due to get a break. He has talent and things will come together somewhere along the line. Don't think this is a horse to give up on yet.

lemoncrush 02-03-2009 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kasept
Don't think that it's a case of Indygo Mountain not showing much as it is a case of him having about as rotten luck as any horse out there to this point. Between getting off schedule losing time to the bruised hoof and then the nightmare in the Lecomte, he's due to get a break. He has talent and things will come together somewhere along the line. Don't think this is a horse to give up on yet.

I agree. And drawing the 2 hole should put him in much better position than his far outside post in the Lecomte. As long as he breaks clean, he should have no excuses this time around.

-BT- 02-03-2009 10:19 AM

A$$ switches Bridge off Uno Mas to Dumar. Hernandez picks up the mount on Uno Mas. And we all know A$$ only uses Bridge for his very best stock (which is confussing anyways), interesting.

giving giant oak a long look, even though i hate the layoff

-bt-

deltagulf 02-03-2009 10:35 AM

yea good races and the weather should be good sunny and in the 70's.
no rain
indygo mountain should be in good shape this time. at one time the meche twins were steve a's go to guys at fair grounds.

FGFan 02-03-2009 01:42 PM

Another fine day of racing at the Fairgrounds. What was looking like mid size fields explodes to full or fuller fields, particularly pleased the filly race is now up to 8.
Weather is going to be chilly this week, with NO RAIN :) , then warms up for Saturday to the low 70's, sunny and breezy.

Freisan Fire I think will still be tough in here, and hopefully Indygo Mountain can move forward, he has had a tough go of it this year.
Hernandez and Assmussen have had quite a successful pairing here this season, although I agree the move with Bridgomahan to Dumar is suspect. Really interested with Giant Oak also that Prado comes in to ride, even with the long lay off, supposedly he has been working well here. And Julien comes into ride Au Moon once again.

Turf should be very nice, had alot of rain yesterday.

Small group of DT'ers meeting up at the paddock bar and sharing my box, 1 is even flying in for a little vacay. Going to be a fun filled day!!!

Bobby Fischer 02-03-2009 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lemoncrush
I agree. And drawing the 2 hole should put him in much better position than his far outside post in the Lecomte. As long as he breaks clean, he should have no excuses this time around.

yea, the lecomte was a funny race. Friesen Fire ran big, but the pace was slow and FF "stole" great forward position for the 1mile finishline position. The race was over at 4f.

"Long" stretch for the Risen Star?

FGFan 02-03-2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
yea, the lecomte was a funny race. Friesen Fire ran big, but the pace was slow and FF "stole" great forward position for the 1mile finishline position. The race was over at 4f.

"Long" stretch for the Risen Star?

Yes I'm pretty sure it is the long stretch, but I'm going to double check that, will verify it later.

I haven't watched the LeCompte on the DVR yet, I need to watch it, such a different perspective when you are actually at the track being a railbird...:o

That first clubhouse turn is going to be a bit tricky with that size of a field, it could either put a horse in the race or decidely put them at a huge disadvantage. Prado has ridden here a few times, but the rest are regular riders, even Julien even though he's at GP this year, but spent 3/4 of the season here last year.

swedejxn 02-03-2009 06:53 PM

6 stakes ---4 graded.... too bad I have to work or else I would come on down and join y'all....

Early thoughts.....

Race 4 Pan Zaretta Secret Gypsey chalk..... Shilla could pull the upset
Race 5 Colonel Power... Match race between Chamb-Bridge and Storm Treasure???? not so fast... plenty of speed including a girl.. Treasure at the rail might find traffic... don't leave out Rouse the Cat
Race 6 Mineshaft... I see Honest Man over Grasshopper... but My Pal Charlie could have a say-so
Race 7 FG Cap-- Questionable affair.... I see Corrupt edging the upset minded Windward Island
Race 8.. Silverbulletday.... Just Jenda is just fine with me as a single...

Race 9 Risen Star.... Giant Oak stakes claim as the early Derby choice
Indygo fares better but not good enough Soul Warrior shows some heart filling out the tri....

Just some thoughts.... enjoy your week pondering a big week in the big easy... Mardi Gras parades have started so it's a great time to visit...

FGFan 02-03-2009 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedejxn
6 stakes ---4 graded.... too bad I have to work or else I would come on down and join y'all....

Early thoughts.....

Race 4 Pan Zaretta Secret Gypsey chalk..... Shilla could pull the upset
Race 5 Colonel Power... Match race between Chamb-Bridge and Storm Treasure???? not so fast... plenty of speed including a girl.. Treasure at the rail might find traffic... don't leave out Rouse the Cat
Race 6 Mineshaft... I see Honest Man over Grasshopper... but My Pal Charlie could have a say-so
Race 7 FG Cap-- Questionable affair.... I see Corrupt edging the upset minded Windward Island
Race 8.. Silverbulletday.... Just Jenda is just fine with me as a single...

Race 9 Risen Star.... Giant Oak stakes claim as the early Derby choice
Indygo fares better but not good enough Soul Warrior shows some heart filling out the tri....

Just some thoughts.... enjoy your week pondering a big week in the big easy... Mardi Gras parades have started so it's a great time to visit...

Well if plans change come on down...I'm sure someone will have a DT hat on. It's the nicest time of Mardi Gras before the big crush, Krewe of Vieux Carre' is on tab for Saturday..old fashioned walking parade in the quarter, very neighborhoody kinda thing.


CONFIRMED that this is the long stretch, normal finish line, but remember it is short going into that first clubhouse turn, comes up very quickly.

GBBob 02-03-2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedejxn
6 stakes ---4 graded.... too bad I have to work or else I would come on down and join y'all....

Early thoughts.....

Race 4 Pan Zaretta Secret Gypsey chalk..... Shilla could pull the upset
Race 5 Colonel Power... Match race between Chamb-Bridge and Storm Treasure???? not so fast... plenty of speed including a girl.. Treasure at the rail might find traffic... don't leave out Rouse the Cat
Race 6 Mineshaft... I see Honest Man over Grasshopper... but My Pal Charlie could have a say-so
Race 7 FG Cap-- Questionable affair.... I see Corrupt edging the upset minded Windward Island
Race 8.. Silverbulletday.... Just Jenda is just fine with me as a single...

Race 9 Risen Star.... Giant Oak stakes claim as the early Derby choice
Indygo fares better but not good enough Soul Warrior shows some heart filling out the tri....

Just some thoughts.... enjoy your week pondering a big week in the big easy... Mardi Gras parades have started so it's a great time to visit...

An Illinois bred....love:tro: it

Plus we ran third to him in his debut

dellinger63 02-03-2009 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
An Illinois bred....love:tro: it

Plus we ran third to him in his debut

Just hope he's outside on that final turn and runs straight. The Woodford was a throw out as be was blocked completely on the rail. Man this horse has a HUGE stride.

dagulla 02-03-2009 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
An Illinois bred....love:tro: it

Plus we ran third to him in his debut

He is also a Giants Causeway. Giants Causeway was a great great racehorse, for those who are not familiar. People around here seem to really like him as a sire.

NTamm1215 02-03-2009 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagulla
He is also a Giants Causeway. Giants Causeway was a great great racehorse, for those who are not familiar. People around here seem to really like him as a sire.

:rolleyes:

NT

Danzig 02-03-2009 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagulla
He is also a Giants Causeway. Giants Causeway was a great great racehorse, for those who are not familiar. People around here seem to really like him as a sire.

i see subtlety is not your strong point.

ateamstupid 02-04-2009 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagulla
He is also a Giants Causeway. Giants Causeway was a great great racehorse, for those who are not familiar. People around here seem to really like him as a sire.

LMAO.

Indian Charlie 02-04-2009 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagulla
He is also a Giants Causeway. Giants Causeway was a great great racehorse, for those who are not familiar. People around here seem to really like him as a sire.

Name one person here who really likes him as a sire.

miraja2 02-05-2009 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianwspencer
wow, a couple of really good races.

can't wait to see how giant oak and summer's empire fare here -- loved the former's two wins at AP and think the latter's going to turn out okay after all.

and good old Sidcup shows up. love that guy.

I do think that he might actually have a shot.

dagulla 02-06-2009 04:38 PM

Does anyone give Flying Spur a chance in the 8th ? When you answer me, PLEASE look past the sire !!!!

ateamstupid 02-06-2009 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagulla
Does anyone give Flying Spur a chance in the 8th ? When you answer me, PLEASE look past the sire !!!!

She ran well last time obviously, but I'm always wary of horses that ran huge turf-to-dirt the next time they run.

dagulla 02-06-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
She ran well last time obviously, but I'm always wary of horses that ran huge turf-to-dirt the next time they run.

Is there anyway she is just a off track freak ? The last win was big and easy, but it was sloppy. I am hoping she improves, and did not just like the off going. I see it as a 2 horse race. I am not sold on anyone in here even thefavorite, but thats who I will use.... Just Jenda and Flying Spur.

Indian Charlie 02-06-2009 06:55 PM

You had to like Flying Spur, didn't you?

She's doomed to lose now, and I was really hoping this would be a good filly, as her dam is one of the great fillies of the last 20 years.

dagulla 02-06-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
She ran well last time obviously, but I'm always wary of horses that ran huge turf-to-dirt the next time they run.

What did you think of the 7th ? I think the 1 entry is clearly the horse/horses to beat... Maybe the strongest single in the pk4 and 5.... I might use the 5 the trainer is 40%, JL gets the mount and the last 2 were not bad at all, closed stongly both times into slow paces.

dagulla 02-06-2009 08:25 PM

What about the 6th ? I have narrowed it down to 4, I know thats a lot but they do offer the 2 50 cent wagers tomorrow.

I hope/pray they pound My Pal Charlie... Last yr's 3yr olds were horrible, worst I have ever saw. All of this horse's close races were against restricted company, He did not face elders to the Breeders Cup race, where he did run ok that day, but that was over a synthetic surface, also IMO that was a pretty shitty group that day, Well Armed was chalk, and he came back to do nothing, I know the winner came back to win The Donn, but he also had a big trainer change, and did not really blow anyone away in that race, I belelive it was a 101 beyer. I get the feeling a horse like Grasshopper could easily run a 101 in here. I could be way off w/ this one, but for me he is the biggest toss on the card. Any opinions on him our this race ?

Maybe I was premature calling the 8th a 2 horse race. I think War Tigress, also has a shot, at what should be a very good price. I will guess, 8-1 at post.

Pedigree Ann 02-07-2009 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -BT-
A$$ switches Bridge off Uno Mas to Dumar. Hernandez picks up the mount on Uno Mas. And we all know A$$ only uses Bridge for his very best stock (which is confussing anyways), interesting.

giving giant oak a long look, even though i hate the layoff

-bt-

But Bridge messed up big time by taking Uno Mas to the tail of the field behind a slow pace in the Lecomte. Two back the horse sat behind the lead on a fast pace and powered home over several of the same horses in here. Even Assman isn't going to forgive that kind of bonehead move (sarcasm intended).

Pedigree Ann 02-07-2009 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swedejxn
6 stakes ---4 graded.... too bad I have to work or else I would come on down and join y'all....

Early thoughts.....

Race 4 Pan Zaretta Secret Gypsey chalk..... Shilla could pull the upset
Race 5 Colonel Power... Match race between Chamb-Bridge and Storm Treasure???? not so fast... plenty of speed including a girl.. Treasure at the rail might find traffic... don't leave out Rouse the Cat
Race 6 Mineshaft... I see Honest Man over Grasshopper... but My Pal Charlie could have a say-so
Race 7 FG Cap-- Questionable affair.... I see Corrupt edging the upset minded Windward Island
Race 8.. Silverbulletday.... Just Jenda is just fine with me as a single...

Race 9 Risen Star.... Giant Oak stakes claim as the early Derby choice
Indygo fares better but not good enough Soul Warrior shows some heart filling out the tri....

Just some thoughts.... enjoy your week pondering a big week in the big easy... Mardi Gras parades have started so it's a great time to visit...

Colonel Power - Rouse the Cat and Chamberlain Bridge should set it up for Storm Treasure; unless RtC speed pops the field and CB can't keep up. [STRIKE THAT-REVERSE IT]
Mineshaft - My Pal Charlie has the class, Honest Man may be the only real speed.
FG H - JImmy Simms, a new 4yo who likes the track, is clearly lone speed in here and the course has been kind to that sort lately.
Silverbulletday - Sheesh, how many front-runners/pressers are signed on here? Just Jenda does look like she can sit and pounce; only defeat at a bullring.
Risen Star - Off the layoff? Horses in good form? Horses with excuses last out? Jumping up maiden winners? Could Soul Warrior be a rabbit for the Assman's other horses (PVal on)? Picking 3yo races this time of year is such a pain. Think I'll stick to the maiden claiming races; THOSE I can pick.

King Glorious 02-07-2009 02:29 PM

Honest Man over Good and Lucky

Ex Box of Soul Warrior, Dumar, It Happened Again

Friesan Fire for the win over Uno Mas with Flying Pegasus third.

Indian Charlie 02-07-2009 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dagulla
Does anyone give Flying Spur a chance in the 8th ? When you answer me, PLEASE look past the sire !!!!

You are the worst hex ever.

She broke through the gate before the start, then had trouble at the start, with it looking like she stumbled.

Danzig 02-07-2009 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
You are the worst hex ever.

She broke through the gate before the start, then had trouble at the start, with it looking like she stumbled.

she did, what rotten luck for her-but still managed to get up for fourth. nice catch tho by the starter.


edit~just read part of another thread, hope you didn't have pioneerof the nile.

GBBob 02-07-2009 04:27 PM

I like Giant Oak, but 8-5??? Looking elsewhere

GBBob 02-07-2009 04:34 PM

Nice job Prado:zz:

Danzig 02-07-2009 04:39 PM

i backed indygo mountain in the contest. i won't make that mistake again.


is larry jones really going to retire? that guy is having quite a day, quite a year for that matter-and it's only february. he's loaded.

Indian Charlie 02-07-2009 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
she did, what rotten luck for her-but still managed to get up for fourth. nice catch tho by the starter.


edit~just read part of another thread, hope you didn't have pioneerof the nile.

i do :(

Betsy 02-07-2009 04:39 PM

I'm thrilled War Echo won the Silverbulletday - did she look good? Thanks!

Friesan Fire ran well today - I wonder if he really wants to go 1 1/4, but he is talented and hard-knocking.

Danzig 02-07-2009 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
i do :(

perhaps POTN can outrun the field and the mush. he's a good horse. i used bittel road in the contest, looking for a price....

anyway, good luck IC-you're going to need it!

Indian Charlie 02-07-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
perhaps POTN can outrun the field and the mush. he's a good horse. i used bittel road in the contest, looking for a price....

anyway, good luck IC-you're going to need it!

i need a lobotomy.

3kings 02-07-2009 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Glorious
Honest Man over Good and Lucky

Ex Box of Soul Warrior, Dumar, It Happened Again

Friesan Fire for the win over Uno Mas with Flying Pegasus third.


Nice calls King, must have had a pretty good at the windows.

Congrats!


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