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hoovesupsideyourhead 01-29-2009 08:49 AM

obama snubs medal of honor winners
 
Obama Snubs Nation's Heroes, Becomes the First President
to Skip Ball Honoring Medal of Honor Recipients in Over 50 Years



Submitted by Julie on January 21, 2009 - 10:13pm.
2008 News Politics U.S. Government U.S. Politics World Politics



Barack Obama may have stumbled over his words briefly during his
inauguration, but he made an even bigger blunder later Tuesday evening.
The newly sworn-in President opted not to appear at what should have
been one of the most important Balls on his agenda that evening -
"The Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball."



The Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball was begun in 1953 for President Dwight
Eisenhower's inauguration. The event recognized recipients of the Medal of
Honor, the nation's highest military award. There were 48 Medal of Honor
recipients in attendance, who were undoubtedly disappointed by the new
Commander-in-Chief's failure to show. Over the past 56 years and 14
inaugurations, no President has skipped this event - until now.



The Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball is sponsored by the American Legion,
and co-sponsored by 13 other veteran's service organizations, including
those such as the Paralyzed Veterans of America and the Military Order of
the Purple Heart.



Instead of attending this ball honoring our nation's heroes, Obama was busy
making stops at 10 other official balls. Obama and his wife's first stop was at
the Neighborhood Ball. From there they went to the Home State Ball for Illinois
and Hawaii , the Commander-in-Chief Ball, the Youth Inaugural Ball, and the
Home State Ball for Delaware and Pennsylvania . They finished off the night
with brief appearances at the Mid-Atlantic, Western, Midwest , Eastern, and
Southern regional Balls.



Celebrities were a plenty at the balls, with Stevie Wonder, Shakira, Mary. J. Blige,
Faith Hill, Jay-Z, Alicia Keys, Adam Levine, will.i.am, Sting, Mariah Carey, and
Leo nardo DiCaprio in attendance at the Neighborhood Ball. In addition, the other
nine balls also featured a star-studded lineup including Kanye West and Kid Rock
at the Youth Ball, Marc Anthony at the Western Ball, and Cheryl Crow at the Western
Ball.



It was the party without all of the celebrities that Obama

skipped. The very people who he sought to have support

him during his candidacy and campaign, who have fought

to protect this country, were snubbed in favor of publicity

and the opportunity to rub shoulders - yet again - with the

out-of-touch Hollywood elite!



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



SHAME ON YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA. THESE BRAVE MEN CAME TO RESPECT YOU, YET

YOUR BLATANT FAILURE TO RECOGNIZE THEM SENDS THEM AND ALL WHO HAVE FOUGHT TO DEFEND THIS NATION, THE WRONG MESSAGE. MAKE NO EXCUSES MR. PRESIDENT - WE NOW KNOW WHERE VETERANS STAND UNDER YOUR WATCH!

GBBob 01-29-2009 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
Obama Snubs Nation's Heroes, Becomes the First President
to Skip Ball Honoring Medal of Honor Recipients in Over 50 Years



Submitted by Julie on January 21, 2009 - 10:13pm.
2008 News Politics U.S. Government U.S. Politics World Politics



Barack Obama may have stumbled over his words briefly during his
inauguration, but he made an even bigger blunder later Tuesday evening.
The newly sworn-in President opted not to appear at what should have
been one of the most important Balls on his agenda that evening -
"The Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball."



The Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball was begun in 1953 for President Dwight
Eisenhower's inauguration. The event recognized recipients of the Medal of
Honor, the nation's highest military award. There were 48 Medal of Honor
recipients in attendance, who were undoubtedly disappointed by the new
Commander-in-Chief's failure to show. Over the past 56 years and 14
inaugurations, no President has skipped this event - until now.



The Salute to Heroes Inaugural Ball is sponsored by the American Legion,
and co-sponsored by 13 other veteran's service organizations, including
those such as the Paralyzed Veterans of America and the Military Order of
the Purple Heart.



Instead of attending this ball honoring our nation's heroes, Obama was busy
making stops at 10 other official balls. Obama and his wife's first stop was at
the Neighborhood Ball. From there they went to the Home State Ball for Illinois
and Hawaii , the Commander-in-Chief Ball, the Youth Inaugural Ball, and the
Home State Ball for Delaware and Pennsylvania . They finished off the night
with brief appearances at the Mid-Atlantic, Western, Midwest , Eastern, and
Southern regional Balls.



Celebrities were a plenty at the balls, with Stevie Wonder, Shakira, Mary. J. Blige,
Faith Hill, Jay-Z, Alicia Keys, Adam Levine, will.i.am, Sting, Mariah Carey, and
Leo nardo DiCaprio in attendance at the Neighborhood Ball. In addition, the other
nine balls also featured a star-studded lineup including Kanye West and Kid Rock
at the Youth Ball, Marc Anthony at the Western Ball, and Cheryl Crow at the Western
Ball.



It was the party without all of the celebrities that Obama

skipped. The very people who he sought to have support

him during his candidacy and campaign, who have fought

to protect this country, were snubbed in favor of publicity

and the opportunity to rub shoulders - yet again - with the

out-of-touch Hollywood elite!



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



SHAME ON YOU PRESIDENT OBAMA. THESE BRAVE MEN CAME TO RESPECT YOU, YET

YOUR BLATANT FAILURE TO RECOGNIZE THEM SENDS THEM AND ALL WHO HAVE FOUGHT TO DEFEND THIS NATION, THE WRONG MESSAGE. MAKE NO EXCUSES MR. PRESIDENT - WE NOW KNOW WHERE VETERANS STAND UNDER YOUR WATCH!

As usual with the Obama haters..there is always more to the story..

http://isaacs.newsvine.com/_news/200...ts-not-exactly

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-29-2009 09:45 AM

so he sent his v.p..why is that ok..im not a 'hater'..just think he should have made the effort..imo

GBBob 01-29-2009 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
so he sent his v.p..why is that ok..im not a 'hater'..just think he should have made the effort..imo

Sorry to lump you in that category Matt...not deserved

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-29-2009 10:10 AM

this was sent to me..i just posted it for conversation..apart from the security issue i think he should have made it to that one as these people have given it all for his right to be the prez..

ArlJim78 01-29-2009 10:29 AM

there isn't anything more to the story. past presidents who no doubt also had busy schedules somehow found the time to go to this ball. for Obama it was a lower priority. end of story.

I'm just so thrilled and proud that he did find the time to honor al arabiya with his first media interview.

dellinger63 01-29-2009 10:53 AM

Obama was the one that missed out. 2 years ago Arlington Park held a special day for the Medal of Honor winners. Probably 30-40 were there including many who have had books and movies written about them. They were introduced individually and while they limped and wheeled by the crowd stood and clapped for each like it was the first one. They seemed more appreciative of us than we did of them. Very few dry eyes in the park. One of the coolest days I've had at the track for sure.

ateamstupid 01-29-2009 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
I'm just so thrilled and proud that he did find the time to honor al arabiya with his first media interview.

What's the big deal? Try your hardest to answer without anything racist or condescending.

gales0678 01-29-2009 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
What's the big deal? Try your hardest to answer without anything racist or condescending.


to be fair to Obama he went on the O'Riely factor on fox during the primaries and went toe to toe with o'rielly

what i dont understand is why is he elvating Rush Limbaugh by saying "don't listen to what Rush says"

now Limbaugh is garnering more media attention now because of this

Danzig 01-29-2009 01:34 PM

rush limbaugh is a douchebag. some jackass down here compared him to mark twain, i almost fainted.

gales0678 01-29-2009 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
rush limbaugh is a douchebag. some jackass down here compared him to mark twain, i almost fainted.


might be so , but , the president of the united states doesn't need to be calling attention to him to bring more attention on rush

Danzig 01-29-2009 03:15 PM

as for the 'snubbing' by obama....

the way it's been put by both obama and biden is that they are a team. i can see why going to the medal of honor ball would appeal more to biden; perhaps he requested it be one of his stops for the evening?
now, i know those who have a bias will automatically put a negative spin on things, but perhaps it wasn't intended as a snub. of course, i generally try to give people benefit of the doubt, and at times i am wrong-i don't make the same mistake twice. but maybe some who are seeing this in a negative light need to take a second look.

GBBob 01-29-2009 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
there isn't anything more to the story. past presidents who no doubt also had busy schedules somehow found the time to go to this ball. for Obama it was a lower priority. end of story.

I'm just so thrilled and proud that he did find the time to reach out to the Muslim community with his first media interview.

FTFY

GBBob 01-29-2009 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dellinger63
Obama was the one that missed out. 2 years ago Arlington Park held a special day for the Medal of Honor winners. Probably 30-40 were there including many who have had books and movies written about them. They were introduced individually and while they limped and wheeled by the crowd stood and clapped for each like it was the first one. They seemed more appreciative of us than we did of them. Very few dry eyes in the park. One of the coolest days I've had at the track for sure.

They did it LY too..every year I think

ddthetide 01-29-2009 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danzig
as for the 'snubbing' by obama....

the way it's been put by both obama and biden is that they are a team. i can see why going to the medal of honor ball would appeal more to biden; perhaps he requested it be one of his stops for the evening?
now, i know those who have a bias will automatically put a negative spin on things, but perhaps it wasn't intended as a snub. of course, i generally try to give people benefit of the doubt, and at times i am wrong-i don't make the same mistake twice. but maybe some who are seeing this in a negative light need to take a second look.

just curious, you have a son in the military. ask him who he'd rather have seen in person. the commander-in-cheif who ORDERS them to battle or the second stringer.

dellinger63 01-29-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
They did it LY too..every year I think

well I was absent a lot as you know. Still was awesome to see and be with those guys. Made the winner of the next race less important for sure. And I was wrong saying the Medal of Honor recipients were winners although they definately are!! Guess the Col. is good for Arlington despite all the Levy nazi's who seemed to arrive with him.

Danzig 01-29-2009 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddthetide
just curious, you have a son in the military. ask him who he'd rather have seen in person. the commander-in-cheif who ORDERS them to battle or the second stringer.

i'll ask him in march, he's out at sea right now and unreachable. but i think he'd be more concerned about where obama would send him, rather than where obama would show up.


btw, seems the dems have always been accused of being less than affectionate towards our military-this won't necessarily endear obama to his armed services. but i think it may have been a miscalculation, not just an outright attempt on his part to slight anyone. i can see where going to that ball would appeal to biden, rather than obama.

hi_im_god 01-29-2009 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArlJim78
there isn't anything more to the story. past presidents who no doubt also had busy schedules somehow found the time to go to this ball. for Obama it was a lower priority. end of story.

I'm just so thrilled and proud that he did find the time to honor al arabiya with his first media interview.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Arabiya

from above:

Content and Al Jazeera rivalry

Al Arabiya was created to be a direct competitor of Qatar-based Al Jazeera.[5] According to a 2008 New York Times profile of Al Arabiya director Abdul Rahman al-Rashed, the station was founded "to cure Arab television of its penchant for radical politics and violence," with Al Jazeera as its main target. Mr. Rashed alleged that Arab television's coverage of militant groups was overly friendly. "You have to remember, it was television that made bin Laden into a celebrity," Rashed said. "That made Al Qaeda, and its recruiting, and this is how violence spread throughout the region." Mr. Rashed said Al Arabiya works to describe incidents of Islamist violence with neutral, non-supportive language. He also said the station had pushed Al Jazeera to be more critical of the insurgency in Iraq. "Now Al Jazeera is a very soft, reasonable station when it comes to the Iraqis," he said. Al Arabiya has, in turn, drawn accusations of pro-American or pro-Saudi bias, in part due to MBC's Saudi ownership.[6]

i think the days of trying to resolve issues by sitting alone in a corner not talking to people ended jan 20. i know it seems odd after 8 years of passive aggressive dysfunction in foreign policy but making the point of talking to a moderate arab outlet was probably a good idea. just my take.

ateamstupid 01-30-2009 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Arabiya

from above:

Content and Al Jazeera rivalry

Al Arabiya was created to be a direct competitor of Qatar-based Al Jazeera.[5] According to a 2008 New York Times profile of Al Arabiya director Abdul Rahman al-Rashed, the station was founded "to cure Arab television of its penchant for radical politics and violence," with Al Jazeera as its main target. Mr. Rashed alleged that Arab television's coverage of militant groups was overly friendly. "You have to remember, it was television that made bin Laden into a celebrity," Rashed said. "That made Al Qaeda, and its recruiting, and this is how violence spread throughout the region." Mr. Rashed said Al Arabiya works to describe incidents of Islamist violence with neutral, non-supportive language. He also said the station had pushed Al Jazeera to be more critical of the insurgency in Iraq. "Now Al Jazeera is a very soft, reasonable station when it comes to the Iraqis," he said. Al Arabiya has, in turn, drawn accusations of pro-American or pro-Saudi bias, in part due to MBC's Saudi ownership.[6]

i think the days of trying to resolve issues by sitting alone in a corner not talking to people ended jan 20. i know it seems odd after 8 years of passive aggressive dysfunction in foreign policy but making the point of talking to a moderate arab outlet was probably a good idea. just my take.

You can quote as many articles as you want, anybody who speaks Arabic is still a terrorist or at least a terrorist sympathizer until proven otherwise to people like Jim.

Honu 01-30-2009 12:30 AM

Who really gives a frogs fat azz anyway.......the writing was on the wall before now , it really is no big suprise.

ateamstupid 01-30-2009 02:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honu
Who really gives a frogs fat azz anyway.......the writing was on the wall before now , it really is no big suprise.

The writing was on the wall for what? That Obama hates veterans?

Danzig 01-30-2009 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
The writing was on the wall for what? That Obama hates veterans?

isn't biden a vet?
at any rate, i don't think he intended it in the light it's being portrayed. i think biden asked to go, and he gave his teammate what he wanted.
but i'm probably wrong, i'm sure it's all part of some sinister plot-we've only begun to see the horrible machinations we're in store for.

GBBob 01-30-2009 07:04 AM

I read that Obama is going to introduce legislation Monday stripping the Medal of Honor receipents of their medals and eliminating the awarding.

hi_im_god 01-30-2009 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
I read that Obama is going to introduce legislation Monday stripping the Medal of Honor receipents of their medals and eliminating the awarding.

aren't you supposed to attach a link to some random blog?

GBBob 01-30-2009 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
aren't you supposed to attach a link to some random blog?


No..no..there's no link...I'm just putting two and two together

hi_im_god 01-30-2009 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
No..no..there's no link...I'm just putting two and two together

that's just lazy. i'm fairly sure if you plumb the depths of the blogosphere you can find someone has actually posted this.

the way the game works is you post the link with unreliable information along with some fevered comment. later, when called on it, you were just putting the info out and it's up to the reader to decide what's factual or not.

that's the fair and balanced way.

GBBob 01-30-2009 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
that's just lazy. i'm fairly sure if you plumb the depths of the blogosphere you can find someone has actually posted this.

the way the game works is you post the link with unreliable information along with some fevered comment. later, when called on it, you were just putting the info out and it's up to the reader to decide what's factual or not.

that's the fair and balanced way.

So many miles walked, so far to go..

timmgirvan 01-30-2009 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hi_im_god
that's just lazy. i'm fairly sure if you plumb the depths of the blogosphere you can find someone has actually posted this.

the way the game works is you post the link with unreliable information along with some fevered comment. later, when called on it, you were just putting the info out and it's up to the reader to decide what's factual or not.

that's the fair and balanced way.

Sooo...you're a regular subscriber to "Slate"?:rolleyes:

Riot 01-30-2009 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
No..no..there's no link...I'm just putting two and two together

Well done, but I thought we supposed to put our Big Adult thinking caps back on last Tuesday? No? Keep them off?

AeWingnut 01-30-2009 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
I read that Obama is going to introduce legislation Monday stripping the Medal of Honor receipents of their medals and eliminating the awarding.


before or after he gives nukes to Syria, Iran, Gaza etc.....

GBBob 01-30-2009 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AeWingnut
before or after he gives nukes to Syria, Iran, Gaza etc.....

He already did that months ago

Coach Pants 01-30-2009 05:08 PM

It's Friday in Kentucky and still no generators from FEMA and no outrage because Bush is not in office.

Government fails yet again...this time though there is a christlike figure in power.

GFY liberals.

timmgirvan 01-30-2009 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
It's Friday in Kentucky and still no generators from FEMA and no outrage because Bush is not in office.

Government fails yet again...this time though there is a christlike figure in power.

GFY liberals.


I laughed.....

Coach Pants 01-30-2009 05:23 PM

Hey I'll take Dimmy's side on this issue.

I'd really like to hear the excuses from some of the democrats on here on why generators aren't being sent with the national guard. It's not like our governor doesn't know over 95% of his HOME f.ucking county is out of power. Maybe the rumors are true and he's been hitting the sauce too hard to give a f.uck about actually doing his god damned job outside of the slot machine issue.

timmgirvan 01-30-2009 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Hey I'll take Dimmy's side on this issue.

I'd really like to hear the excuses from some of the democrats on here on why generators aren't being sent with the national guard. It's not like our governor doesn't know over 95% of his HOME f.ucking county is out of power. Maybe the rumors are true and he's been hitting the sauce too hard to give a f.uck about actually doing his god damned job outside of the slot machine issue.

I wouldn't wish this on anyone, but somebody's a little slow in response.

GBBob 01-30-2009 05:38 PM

I don't know...we lost power for 6 days two summers ago and I had to buy my own generator.

Blagojevich's on e-bay were too expensive

ddthetide 01-30-2009 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
I don't know...we lost power for 6 days two summers ago and I had to buy my own generator.

Blagojevich's on e-bay were too expensive

summer is the key word here. NOT jan. 27th. but i forget summer in chicago is june and july?

Riot 01-30-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Hey I'll take Dimmy's side on this issue.

I'd really like to hear the excuses from some of the democrats on here on why generators aren't being sent with the national guard. It's not like our governor doesn't know over 95% of his HOME f.ucking county is out of power. Maybe the rumors are true and he's been hitting the sauce too hard to give a f.uck about actually doing his god damned job outside of the slot machine issue.

Seriously, I saw National Guard in Lexington Wednesday. Are you rural, no?

Riot 01-30-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob
I don't know...we lost power for 6 days two summers ago and I had to buy my own generator.

Blagojevich's on e-bay were too expensive

Were you the one that bought Palin's red peep-toe pumps?


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