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Ogygian 01-21-2009 05:52 PM

Jockeys...Animal Planet
 
Just watched the trailer for this upcoming show or series...looks rather interesting. Any thoughts?

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...ctid6970565001

Ogygian 01-21-2009 06:07 PM

My bad...I search "jockeys" to see if anyone has started and post and nothing came up...then in my travels I see "jockey" without an S. Anyway...this clip is a bit longer then 5 seconds....

MaTH716 01-21-2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ogygian
My bad...I search "jockeys" to see if anyone has started and post and nothing came up...then in my travels I see "jockey" without an S. Anyway...this clip is a bit longer then 5 seconds....

Not bad only for a 3 minute and 20 sec clip. Four spills, a horse rearing up badly in the gate ,sirens and someone being taken off in an ambulance (I guess that they are trying to target those NASCAR fans that watch just for the accidents too).
I do think it looks interesting, but I do think they are trying to spin/sell it more as a soap opera (between the romances, bad blood and fights) than a true documentry. But, I will definitely watch it.

Ogygian 01-21-2009 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Not bad only for a 3 minute and 20 sec clip. Four spills, a horse rearing up badly in the gate ,sirens and someone being taken off in an ambulance (I guess that they are trying to target those NASCAR fans that watch just for the accidents too).
I do think it looks interesting, but I do think they are trying to spin/sell it more as a soap opera (between the romances, bad blood and fights) than a true documentry. But, I will definitely watch it.

I agree...3 minutes of the clip show a brutal side of horse racing...I am hoping it isn't entirely negative and they show it as the "Sport of Kings"

Habersham000 01-21-2009 06:29 PM

Did they really have to show all the spills? The show is going to be on animal planet where millions of animal lovers are going to watching horses die on the track....not exactly good for the sport

Cannon Shell 01-21-2009 10:23 PM

Are jockeys now considered animals?

hoovesupsideyourhead 01-21-2009 10:25 PM

pin heads.. are they an animal?

Indian Charlie 01-22-2009 01:00 AM

Coming soon to Fox Reality channel:

"Drooling inmates in the asylum laced up in their straight jackets".

joeydb 01-22-2009 06:06 AM

We are so starved for coverage of our sport in the media, that I'm sure I'll have to give it a chance.

eajinabi 01-22-2009 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Are jockeys now considered animals?

no but they are endangered

Cannon Shell 01-23-2009 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by eajinabi
no but they are endangered

hardly

eajinabi 01-24-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
hardly

At least the good ones are.

GBBob 01-26-2009 10:24 AM

Full page back cover ad in Rolling Stone with the tag line "Win or die trying"...

At least they are trying to market it to a different/new audience

MaTH716 01-26-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Full page back cover ad in Rolling Stone with the tag line "Win or die trying"...

At least they are trying to market it to a different/new audience

The the problem with that slogan is that (at least I did) people are going to think about the horses dying and not the jockeys.

GBBob 01-26-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
The the problem with that slogan is that (at least I did) people are going to think about the horses dying and not the jockeys.

I agree

Bigsmc 01-26-2009 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Full page back cover ad in Rolling Stone with the tag line "Win or die trying"...

At least they are trying to market it to a different/new audience

You read Rolling Stone?

GBBob 01-26-2009 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
You read Rolling Stone?

When I'm not hugging trees...

Bigsmc 01-26-2009 11:02 AM

I didn't know you were so hip.

Suffolk Shippers 01-26-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Coming soon to Fox Reality channel:

"Drooling inmates in the asylum laced up in their straight jackets".

They already have this, ever watch "doc block" on MSNBC on the weekends? :D

deltagulf 01-26-2009 11:03 AM

back in the day

GPK 01-26-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
When I'm not listening to Limbaugh...

FTFY

Danzig 01-26-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Full page back cover ad in Rolling Stone with the tag line "Win or die trying"...

At least they are trying to market it to a different/new audience


bad tag line.

Indian Charlie 01-26-2009 12:54 PM

How about "Think, or die trying"?

GPK 01-26-2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
How about "Think, or die trying"?


I'm the first to believe that miracles happen...but not holding my breath on that one IC.

Merlinsky 02-13-2009 08:19 PM

"Couldn't run out of sight on a dark night."
The Green Monkey just got a trivia question shout out at the commercial break. Hmm I wonder what's the most money paid for a TB racehorse (obviously as a racing prospect not as a stallion prospect)...$2.5 mil, $7 mil, could it be....$16 million? Yup, that was easy.

dellinger63 02-14-2009 08:27 AM

Loved Brandon Meier talking to his Dad about his win and then looking at the camera and saying 'he must have been out with ONE of his g/f's' , on the day before Valentines Day. I know someone who's in trouble. Good Luck Randy.

robfla 02-14-2009 08:30 AM

I thought this week's episodes were much better than last week's.


the one thing that bothers me is the phony racecalls from Trevor Denman.

dellinger63 02-14-2009 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by robfla
I thought this week's episodes were much better than last week's.


the one thing that bothers me is the phony racecalls from Trevor Denman.

Bothers me too. Also learned Kayla can't ride.

Merlinsky 02-14-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Bothers me too. Also learned Kayla can't ride.

Would love to know what gave you that conclusion. If you're going by results, I find it hard to believe at least some of that didn't have a lot to do with being given mostly lousy horses. Nevermind being a woman from another country so getting them to give you anything to ride period seemed to be a struggle.

dellinger63 02-14-2009 08:32 PM

ie Inez Karlson at Arl? Guess trainers are only prejudice against Ausies and not Sweeds. She can't ride period!! AM or PM. Get rid of the baby fat and bad attitude. Makes friends w/Brandon M and then sulks when he wins his first? Sorry back to Australia where she belongs.

Scurlogue Champ 02-14-2009 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Would love to know what gave you that conclusion. If you're going by results, I find it hard to believe at least some of that didn't have a lot to do with being given mostly lousy horses. Nevermind being a woman from another country so getting them to give you anything to ride period seemed to be a struggle.

She sucked in Australia as well, poor girl.

letswastemoney 02-14-2009 09:41 PM

at least she's hot

dellinger63 02-14-2009 09:48 PM

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at least she's hot

Hot is nothing that comes to mind when I see her. Now Chantel? Whole other story.

Merlinsky 02-15-2009 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Hot is nothing that comes to mind when I see her. Now Chantel? Whole other story.

Explains a lot about the 'better than sex' remark Kayla made. ;)

Seriously though what was she doing in Australia that made her bad? I honestly don't know, it's not that I'm defending her. I just enjoyed hearing some of the things like with Baffert this past week discussing Brandon and his height as one thing that made people nervous. That's an actual point that doesn't indicate a bias like 'I lost money and I blame the jock, ergo he/she sucks.' There was some discussion about Gomez vs. Smith that, again, indicated exactly why you'd go with one or the other based on technique.

Kayla said herself she had problems as a younger person and supposedly has it under control so maybe she didn't do herself any favors. One of the other jockeys on the show said she often rides horses anybody else would avoid so that can't help. Does she not place her horse well? Does she manhandle them? What does she do other than not win frequently? Like what would be her fault specifically? I'm just trying to learn.

letswastemoney 02-15-2009 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Explains a lot about the 'better than sex' remark Kayla made. ;)

Seriously though what was she doing in Australia that made her bad? I honestly don't know, it's not that I'm defending her. I just enjoyed hearing some of the things like with Baffert this past week discussing Brandon and his height as one thing that made people nervous. That's an actual point that doesn't indicate a bias like 'I lost money and I blame the jock, ergo he/she sucks.' There was some discussion about Gomez vs. Smith that, again, indicated exactly why you'd go with one or the other based on technique.

Kayla said herself she had problems as a younger person and supposedly has it under control so maybe she didn't do herself any favors. One of the other jockeys on the show said she often rides horses anybody else would avoid so that can't help. Does she not place her horse well? Does she manhandle them? What does she do other than not win frequently? Like what would be her fault specifically? I'm just trying to learn.

It's really mostly the horse, I'm sure Kayla is a very skilled rider, but seriously.....if she's in a race where the rest of the field has beyer figures in the 70s let's say.....and she's on a 30-1 shot that has never broken 60.......there's really not much one can do. I don't care if Jerry Bailey is riding that 30-1 shot, the horse just isn't any good and never will be.

dellinger63 02-15-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky
Explains a lot about the 'better than sex' remark Kayla made. ;)

Seriously though what was she doing in Australia that made her bad? I honestly don't know, it's not that I'm defending her. I just enjoyed hearing some of the things like with Baffert this past week discussing Brandon and his height as one thing that made people nervous. That's an actual point that doesn't indicate a bias like 'I lost money and I blame the jock, ergo he/she sucks.' There was some discussion about Gomez vs. Smith that, again, indicated exactly why you'd go with one or the other based on technique.

Kayla said herself she had problems as a younger person and supposedly has it under control so maybe she didn't do herself any favors. One of the other jockeys on the show said she often rides horses anybody else would avoid so that can't help. Does she not place her horse well? Does she manhandle them? What does she do other than not win frequently? Like what would be her fault specifically? I'm just trying to learn.

She puts horses in spots they have no chance of winning from unless she breaks on the lead. 8 wins from 150 mounts last year. One win for every 18.25 mounts explans a lot. IMO and 'manhandling' a horse made me laugh for some reason. To me it looks like she barely has the strength to stay on. Two turns appears too much for her regardless of the horse she is on. Looks like she needs to be in the gym instead of sulking about other people's success. Plus I want to see less of her and more of Chantel !!!

Coach Pants 02-15-2009 12:10 PM

This is probably the worst reality show ever. They replay the same **** over 15,000 times. It's ridiculous.

Coach Pants 02-15-2009 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
ie Inez Karlson at Arl? Guess trainers are only prejudice against Ausies and not Sweeds. She can't ride period!! AM or PM. Get rid of the baby fat and bad attitude. Makes friends w/Brandon M and then sulks when he wins his first? Sorry back to Australia where she belongs.

I'm willing to bet that was a major edit.

dean smith 02-20-2009 08:14 PM

For those of you trying to convince yourselves that Kayla Stra is better looking than that Sutherland woman:

Your taste has been called into question.


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