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Mike 01-13-2009 03:04 PM

young teen girls charged with child porn of themselves
 
http://www.wpxi.com/news/18469160/detail.html#-

Interesting ramifications. The 14 and 15 year old girls sent nude pictures of them selves by cell phone to a 16 and 17 year old boy.

Police said the girls are being charged with manufacturing, disseminating or possessing child pornography while the boys face charges of possession.

Antitrust32 01-13-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike
http://www.wpxi.com/news/18469160/detail.html#-

Interesting ramifications. The 14 and 15 year old girls sent nude pictures of them selves by cell phone to a 16 and 17 year old boy.

Police said the girls are being charged with manufacturing, disseminating or possessing child pornography while the boys face charges of possession.


they are teenagers... they would not have been arrested for if the girls would have just got naked in front of the boys.. now they will have this stuff on their records, and it will follow them for the rest of their lives...

If a 30 year old has naked pics of 14 & 15 year olds on his phone that is one thing... but the classmates who they are probably boyfriend and girlfriend with?

I hope they beat the case.

SCUDSBROTHER 01-13-2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike
http://www.wpxi.com/news/18469160/detail.html#-

Interesting ramifications. The 14 and 15 year old girls sent nude pictures of them selves by cell phone to a 16 and 17 year old boy.

Police said the girls are being charged with manufacturing, disseminating or possessing child pornography while the boys face charges of possession.

Now you know how Santorum got elected.


"That's what happens when you give a Catholic power."
-Coach Pants

Mike 01-13-2009 03:30 PM

The bigger sex crime here, may be that of any police, detective or lawyer that must see the pictures. I certainly would insist on seeing the evidence;).

What justification is there for any adult to view these pics, as it would be a greater "crime" than any committed so far by a few naked kids looking at a few other naked kids


Looks like here we need to define pornography a bit better

SniperSB23 01-13-2009 03:40 PM

Yeah, some pretty amazing logic here. Looking at pictures of 14/15yo girls is wrong so let's pass them around among school officials, the police station, and then the courts. Then you have child pornography charges based largely to protect underage people from being exploited but now we are going to further exploit them and press charges against them for exploiting themselves. :zz:

TheSpyder 01-13-2009 03:42 PM

I think a good lawyer should go after whoever seized the phones and thought it was OK to go through the pictures. They are the real criminals for invasion of privicy and underage porn

Mike 01-13-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
I think a good lawyer should go after whoever seized the phones and thought it was OK to go through the pictures. They are the real criminals for invasion of privicy and underage porn




RIGHT ON

Danzig 01-13-2009 04:16 PM

'Police said school officials learned of the photos in October. That's when a student was seen using a cell phone during school hours, which violates school rules. The phone was seized, and the photos were found on it, police said. When police investigated, other phones with more pictures were seized.'


who at the school took it upon themselves to search thru the phone? just because they are students doesn't mean they don't have civil rights, which quite possibly were violated. illegal search and seizure to begin with, also privacy laws.
should be interesting to see how this turns out.

letswastemoney 01-13-2009 04:23 PM

Teen girls will get naked no matter what you do. It's a waste of money to fight something like that.

Mike 01-13-2009 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Teen girls will get naked no matter what you do. It's a waste of money to fight something like that.


Lord knows this is true. I usually just give in to the post pubescent ones, I don't want no trouble. you know?

Danzig 01-13-2009 06:16 PM

i believe the saying is '16 will get you 20'

skippy3481 01-13-2009 07:37 PM

This is the law going wayyy to far. Let them enjoy being young. It's not like they were selling them on the internet or sending them to gpk. Let the parents deal with this.

GPK 01-13-2009 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
This is the law going wayyy to far. Let them enjoy being young. It's not like they were selling them on the internet or sending them to gpk. Let the parents deal with this.

:mad: :mad:

skippy3481 01-13-2009 07:52 PM

no gfy. I'm saddened plus i know you like them with a little seasoning the old creaking back can't handle the young ones anymore

GPK 01-13-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
no gfy. I'm saddened plus i know you like them with a little seasoning the old creaking back can't handle the young ones anymore

GFY:rolleyes:

skippy3481 01-13-2009 07:55 PM

haha good to hear from ya man we still have to grab a beer sometime. You going to toga this year?

GPK 01-13-2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
haha good to hear from ya man we still have to grab a beer sometime. You going to toga this year?


Toga is still up in the air right now. Good to hear from you too.

Danzig 01-13-2009 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
no gfy. I'm saddened plus i know you like them with a little seasoning the old creaking back can't handle the young ones anymore

the biggest problem with young ones is having to listen to them....

skippy3481 01-13-2009 08:07 PM

Ya my wife is young but shes a saint, she puts up with me. kev, when are you thinking about going?

GPK 01-13-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by skippy3481
Ya my wife is young but shes a saint, she puts up with me. kev, when are you thinking about going?


If I go, it would be opening week.

pointman 01-14-2009 11:36 AM

This is ridiculous, even if someone was using a phone when they were not supposed to, why was a school official going through the phone? That person should be charged with child pornography.

As far as search and seizure, the rules only apply to "government officials." If the teachers work for public schools, then the search and seizure laws probably apply, however, if it is a private school, they would not. I know in NY this probably would not be charged and I certainly know of some judges that would toss these charges out in a heartbeat due to the closeness in age. From what I am reading here, it is not the police that searched and seized, but the school that did.

Why are the boys being charged with possession? Nothing that I read states that they showed the pictures to anyone or even told anyone they had them, they are criminals because someone electronically sent them a photograph? Please!

Danzig 01-14-2009 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman
This is ridiculous, even if someone was using a phone when they were not supposed to, why was a school official going through the phone? That person should be charged with child pornography.

As far as search and seizure, the rules only apply to "government officials." If the teachers work for public schools, then the search and seizure laws probably apply, however, if it is a private school, they would not. I know in NY this probably would not be charged and I certainly know of some judges that would toss these charges out in a heartbeat due to the closeness in age. From what I am reading here, it is not the police that searched and seized, but the school that did.

Why are the boys being charged with possession? Nothing that I read states that they showed the pictures to anyone or even told anyone they had them, they are criminals because someone electronically sent them a photograph? Please!

that's the scary part- i warned my 17 year old about this after reading the story.

Mike 01-14-2009 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by pointman

Why are the boys being charged with possession? Nothing that I read states that they showed the pictures to anyone or even told anyone they had them, they are criminals because someone electronically sent them a photograph? Please!



This is what I meant by the possible ramifications of this case. I'd hate to be liable for what anyone and everyone might float my way.

Can porn companies flood people's cell phones with pornographic images?

I don't have a cell phone camera so I don't know how they work, or if you get unsolicited advertising.


Everyone will eventually be flooded with porngraphic images in our society, from about 10 years old and up. Eventually we'll become habituated to it and we'll be able to do away with these archaic porn laws;)

SniperSB23 01-14-2009 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
that's the scary part- i warned my 17 year old about this after reading the story.

Not even the threat of jail time is going to be enough to cause any 17yo boy to delete a naked picture of a hot classmate.

Danzig 01-14-2009 04:23 PM

i know it....
my older son had a girl he was dating. she sent a pic of herself(top only, thankfully had on a bra) to his yahoo email address. problem was, it was MY computer.
he got in a ton of trouble-like i told him, what if someone saw that pic, and my husband ended up with a ton of grief because of this dipshit girl...
kids.


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