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GBBob 01-02-2009 09:11 PM

Manning..MVP?
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3805670

Danzig 01-02-2009 09:12 PM

i really think the rookie of the year should have gotten it. atlanta is completely turned around from what they were a year ago, and i think their QB is the main reason why. but who can argue with peyton really?

MaTH716 01-02-2009 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i really think the rookie of the year should have gotten it. atlanta is completely turned around from what they were a year ago, and i think their QB is the main reason why. but who can argue with peyton really?

Not to take anything away from Matt Ryan, but Michael Turner has been instrumental in the turn around too. I think he was 2nd in the leauge in yards and TD's. He's the one who opened up the field for Matt Ryan.

SniperSB23 01-02-2009 09:27 PM

I'd have voted for Pennington but have no problem with Manning winning it.

Cannon Shell 01-02-2009 10:06 PM

Pennington finishes in a tie for 2nd in the MVP vote but doesnt make the pro bowl?

SniperSB23 01-02-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Pennington finishes in a tie for 2nd in the MVP vote but doesnt make the pro bowl?

Has there ever been a Pro Bowl QB until this year that hasn't thrown more TDs than INTs?

mclem0822 01-02-2009 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I'd have voted for Pennington but have no problem with Manning winning it.

Same here.

declansharbor 01-02-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Not to take anything away from Matt Ryan, but Michael Turner has been instrumental in the turn around too. I think he was 2nd in the leauge in yards and TD's. He's the one who opened up the field for Matt Ryan.

Couldnt agree more. If anyone deserves MVP consideration from that team it's Burner Turner. You are correct, he was 2nd in the league in rushing and TD's.

Coach of the Year could go in many directions as well. This wasnt the year of the run away, clear cut winner in the awards categories, IMO.

MaTH716 01-02-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
Couldnt agree more. If anyone deserves MVP consideration from that team it's Burner Turner. You are correct, he was 2nd in the league in rushing and TD's.

Coach of the Year could go in many directions as well. This wasnt the year of the run away, clear cut winner in the awards categories, IMO.

I think it's a 2 horse race between, Smith and Sparano.

Cannon Shell 01-02-2009 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

Coach of the Year could go in many directions as well. This wasnt the year of the run away, clear cut winner in the awards categories, IMO.

C'mon that is easy....Coach Pants in a landslide

declansharbor 01-02-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
I think it's a 2 horse race between, Smith and Sparano.

With Harbaugh being the darkhorse. But your right, it's essentially a match race. I'd have to give the slightest of nods to Smith.

declansharbor 01-02-2009 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
C'mon that is easy....Coach Pants in a landslide

What was I thinking? Your right...The man definitely knows his $hit, thats for damn sure.

MaTH716 01-02-2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor
With Harbaugh being the darkhorse. But your right, it's essentially a match race. I'd have to give the slightest of nods to Smith.

Harbaugh gets honorable mention, but he inherited one of the best defenses in the leauge. I want to say Smith too, but to win the division after being 1-15 the year before is pretty impressive. There was a big turn around on defense and also not being afraid to bring the wildcat formation to the table on offense like they did. So I will say it goes to Sparano.

SniperSB23 01-02-2009 10:29 PM

Mike Singletary, anytime you show your ass to your players and they go 5-2 down the stretch you should be a lock.

declansharbor 01-02-2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Harbaugh gets honorable mention, but he inherited one of the best defenses in the leauge. I want to say Smith too, but to win the division after being 1-15 the year before is pretty impressive. There was a big turn around on defense and also not being afraid to bring the wildcat formation to the table on offense like they did. So I will say it goes to Sparano.

Yeah, its a tough one no doubt. I'd go Smith if I had a gun to the head. Neither turn around was expected to happen first year like this. I feel that if ATL won the NFC SOuth and not the wildcard, it's Smith without a doubt.(i'm a tad biased, he took a liking to Brent Grimes last year when he was DC, promoted him from practice squad last year and made him a starter in the offseason before he tweaked his hammy the week he was to play his hometown Birds). Sparano took a 1-15 team in ARGUABLY the toughest division in football, and won the damn thing. Dead heat maybe?

Fisher would have been in the mix had his team not went 1-2 in the last 3. The loss @ Houston took care of that debate. One look at their recieving core, and you really find it amazing. Gage was out for awhile too. I know it was the defense and running game that got them here, but still a great job nonetheless.

declansharbor 01-02-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Mike Singletary, anytime you show your ass to your players and they go 5-2 down the stretch you should be a lock.

I was playing poker @ the Taj when I looked up and seen the clip of Jed York retaining Singletary and giving him the game ball. ALl of the players went wolvey bezerk style. Chills rushed down my back. I'm talking Rocky II chills when Rocky gets up and Creed collapses. Good for him, they'll be alright.

timmgirvan 01-02-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
Mike Singletary, anytime you show your ass to your players and they go 5-2 down the stretch you should be a lock.


LOL, you're right! But I'd have to go with Smith cuz Atlanta's fans are nuts right now and the City is breatheing new air now that the teams' situation has turned around from last year.

dalakhani 01-02-2009 11:18 PM

I guess Manning was the default award winner. Forget giving the award to someone that actually might deserve it. Just make the safe choice. Thats why i hate the med

Forget what Pennington did for Miami this year. Forget Michael Turner. Forget Polamalu or Ray Lewis or Phillip Rivers or anyone else. Just give it to manning...no one will argue about it.

I hate it when the media makes the selections.

SniperSB23 01-02-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I guess Manning was the default award winner. Forget giving the award to someone that actually might deserve it. Just make the safe choice. Thats why i hate the med

Forget what Pennington did for Miami this year. Forget Michael Turner. Forget Polamalu or Ray Lewis or Phillip Rivers or anyone else. Just give it to manning...no one will argue about it.

I hate it when the media makes the selections.

Better when the coaches and player make them and Jason Peters winds up a starter in the Pro Bowl and Bret Favre makes it over Chad Pennington. :rolleyes:

philcski 01-02-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
I guess Manning was the default award winner. Forget giving the award to someone that actually might deserve it. Just make the safe choice. Thats why i hate the med

Forget what Pennington did for Miami this year. Forget Michael Turner. Forget Polamalu or Ray Lewis or Phillip Rivers or anyone else. Just give it to manning...no one will argue about it.

I hate it when the media makes the selections
.

sounds kind of like the BCS

geeker2 01-03-2009 10:38 PM

Darren Sproles

GBBob 01-03-2009 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
Darren Sproles

No sh*t man..wow

dalakhani 01-03-2009 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
Darren Sproles

Do you think he would mind if people called him little train? I said in another thread this guy is the second coming of little train.

You should have seen him at k state. He singlehandedly killed a heavily favored oklahoma team in the big 12 championship.

geeker2 01-03-2009 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Do you think he would mind if people called him little train? I said in another thread this guy is the second coming of little train.

You should have seen him at k state. He singlehandedly killed a heavily favored oklahoma team in the big 12 championship.



DÉJÀ VU for LT

dalakhani 01-03-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
DÉJÀ VU for LT

Thats right you are a lifetime bolt fan arent you geeker?

Tough game next week. I am excited to see what the matchups will be.

I think they will be between 8-10 point dogs at either place.

I had no dog in the fight tonight (except sproles) but that was a great game to watch.

ALostTexan 01-04-2009 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Pennington finishes in a tie for 2nd in the MVP vote but doesnt make the pro bowl?

Who would you kick off the Pro Bowl team to make room for Pennington?

Favre???

MaTH716 01-04-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ALostTexan
Who would you kick off the Pro Bowl team to make room for Pennington?

Favre???

Isn't he going to miss the game anyway because of the arm injury? You would think/hope that Pennington would be the replacement.

Cannon Shell 01-04-2009 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ALostTexan
Who would you kick off the Pro Bowl team to make room for Pennington?

Favre???

seriously? You think Favre had a better season than Pennington?

ALostTexan 01-04-2009 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
seriously? You think Favre had a better season than Pennington?

Sorry. My sarcasm didn't show too well. I am just waiting for Favre to cry again and lead the media through another 4 months of agony with his indecision.

I do think that the highlight of the year in the NFL was when Pennington lead the Dolphins over the Jets. I really don't care about either team, but to see Pennington get the revenge over the Jets he deserved was awesome.

Cannon Shell 01-04-2009 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ALostTexan
Sorry. My sarcasm didn't show too well. I am just waiting for Favre to cry again and lead the media through another 4 months of agony with his indecision.

I do think that the highlight of the year in the NFL was when Pennington lead the Dolphins over the Jets. I really don't care about either team, but to see Pennington get the revenge over the Jets he deserved was awesome.

LOL. I still dont understand why they vote for these teams so early in the season

Coach Pants 01-04-2009 10:48 AM

We'll see how Pennington fares today. Hopefully they lose so I don't have to read about him for a few months.

dalakhani 01-04-2009 11:14 AM

The Jets had to cut pennington to create cap space for Favre. Even if they had the cap space, teams usually dont keep 6 million dollar back up.

The only favor that was done by the jets was the speed of the release. They could have waited until the end of camp to cut him and that would have hurt him.

dalakhani 01-04-2009 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Right, so what did they do wrong? Signing Favre? Again, looks bad now. Not so bad when the season started, and really not so bad when the Jets were 8-4 and had just beat the Titans.

I agree. The jets did what they were supposed to do and what most ANY other team would do given the circumstances. Saying they SHOULD have kept pennington now is revisionist because all i heard about before the season started was all the jerseys being sold.

It could have (and should have) been happily ever after for both. I just hope Favre doesnt play his usual game. The jets are built to contend NOW and a decent QB could easily put them in the playoffs next year.

Coach Pants 01-04-2009 11:56 AM

I wouldn't want Thomas Jones speaking for my team. He's an idiot and plays the most expendable position on the field.

pgardn 01-04-2009 12:14 PM

Manning has to be the MVP.
What other QB could have taken that team as far?

He really does not have the same weapons he used to.
Marvin Harrison is a shell of himself. Gonzales is a pure
possession reciever. The fact that Dallas Clark got so many
break down receptions plays says a lot. Addai and Rhodes...
those are not great running backs when hurt. The both barely got
500 yards. The Colts are no
longer explosive and Manning did a great job with that team.
Reggie Wayne is about it.

Imagine Manning with Bolden and Fitzgerald. Kurt Warner did
a very good job at just lobbing the ball up and letting them
make plays.

pgardn 01-04-2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
C'mon that is easy....Coach Pants in a landslide

Bill Parcells should be eligible along with Sparano.

He took the coaches he knew were capable and some
nice players from Dallas. Basically raped Jerry Jones.

declansharbor 01-04-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Manning has to be the MVP.
What other QB could have taken that team as far?

He really does not have the same weapons he used to.
Marvin Harrison is a shell of himself. Gonzales is a pure
possession reciever. The fact that Dallas Clark got so many
break down receptions plays says a lot. Addai and Rhodes...
those are not great running backs when hurt. The both barely got
500 yards. The Colts are no
longer explosive and Manning did a great job with that team.
Reggie Wayne is about it.

Imagine Manning with Bolden and Fitzgerald. Kurt Warner did
a very good job at just lobbing the ball up and letting them
make plays.


That can be said about any QB in the league pretty much.

and did you just say that Wayne is about it for Manning? Do you watch football?

I'd take those guys any day of the week.


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