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Rudeboyelvis 12-30-2008 07:50 PM

Tampa 12/31 Final Five
 
...Races of the day. Will be lucky to catch the last half of the program - here goes..

Race 6) 8 Juciy Point 7-5: Don't call it a comback! Towers over these, working great over the surface...Very soft spot off the layoff and obviously not the same horse as last Feb but if his morning efforts are any indication that he's ready, he wins easily.
12 Another Gulch 12-1: The Waz is en fuego ;) ...Did nothing in his last but has reversed form rapidly in the past he was as good as these in NY not that long ago
2 Salish 3-1: Respectable works off the layoff probably needs one but will include
5 Hungarian Gent 6-1: A DT Fan Favorite certainly prefers the long 1 turn but if Juicy Point isn't up to it he can factor here.

Race 7) 7 Quistopher 3-1 : Certainly showing the best form of these, not getting it done down south recently change of scenery and Dale Bennett's care gets the top spot
8 Chimchar 12-1: Missed by a half length off a career fig last; Ice cold Velez still has to be considered an improvement on the grass
3 Leading On 8-1: Rosemary having a great start to the meet (7 for 30 last 10 days)..Know nothing of this trainer but his has some sick turf stats to boot

Race 8) 7 Repenter 9-2: Toss the poor break at Stickney, nice blow out gate work 12/21, D. Bennett + 2yo's = :$:
9 Linus E 12-1: Lionheart/Stop the Music mare - same line as Lionheart's top 2yo Azul Leon who's banked over 200k as a 2yo. I'd feel like a dope to not include.
11 Rum Customer 15-1: nice gate blow out 12/23 over the track, draws a top flight jock

Race 9) 4 Dee's Rose 5-2: Working like a winner since her arrival - DB's stats are silly good - the gorilla in the room is his go to jock, who has won on her in the past, jumps to the 2 :confused:
8 Bamboo 2-1: Joan Scott + Tampa = :{>: ...Has seen much steeper company in the recent past and is showing much love for the place in the mornings

Race 10) 2 Anniesgothebeat 6-1: Lambholm/Lerman/MCL...going to ride that donkey till the legs fall off SCR
6 Gallent Bid 5-2: Rosie on the drop
5 Sadie's Day 7-2: Dodgen 2 for 3 on the mcl drop, 45% on the cutback (small sample)...Been close in MSW company 2 back, adds blinks...may be the ticket

Edit post scratch & second guessing- adding a few more in the first leg including Onothergostokyo (whom I wanted, no room before) and 6 Silver Mountain (peer pressure)

Final ticket - lock in

Late P4: 3,5,6,7,8//7,8,9,11//2,4,8//6 = 60.00

Best of Luck

GPK 12-30-2008 08:28 PM

Dan...In the 7th race, I really wanted to like Leading On, but the almost 1 month gap in the works is gonna prevent me from using him. A horse that I really love is Silver Mountain. I think he is sitting on a big race tomorrow. Still lightly raced as a 3 yo, so there is some room for improvement. Coming into this 3rd off the layoff, cuting back to 1 mile, Proctor/R Allen. I will be singling this horse on a few tickets tomorrow.


Oh yeah, in this same race, I will be keying Fire Striker underneath a couple horses in an exacta.

Rudeboyelvis 12-30-2008 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Dan...In the 7th race, I really wanted to like Leading On, but the almost 1 month gap in the works is gonna prevent me from using him. A horse that I really love is Silver Mountain. I think he is sitting on a big race tomorrow. Still lightly raced as a 3 yo, so there is some room for improvement. Coming into this 3rd off the layoff, cuting back to 1 mile, Proctor/R Allen. I will be singling this horse on a few tickets tomorrow.


Oh yeah, in this same race, I will be keying Fire Striker underneath a couple horses in an exacta.

You can't go wrong with that duo, Ronnie broke his maiden going the same route of ground last year here... It's funny, I'm not at all crazy about the cut back to a mile, and the main reason I tossed him :zz:

Doesn't seem to suit his running style as he going to get into the bit eariler than usual and these won't come back to him as readily.

Fire Striker and the ever second Greycliff Exchange are great under plays and I'm probably going to be banging my head against the wall for leaving my man Bernie Rhone off my ticket.

GPK 12-30-2008 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
You can't go wrong with that duo, Ronnie broke his maiden going the same route of ground last year here... It's funny, I'm not at all crazy about the cut back to a mile, and the main reason I tossed him :zz:

Doesn't seem to suit his running style as he going to get into the bit eariler than usual and these won't come back to him as readily.

Fire Striker and the ever second Greycliff Exchange are great under plays and I'm probably going to be banging my head against the wall for leaving my man Bernie Rhone off my ticket.


I think there is gonna be a few in there keeping each other company on the front end. I could be wrong, but this horse just jumps out at me.

Rudeboyelvis 12-30-2008 09:02 PM

Hey, where's your boy Thunderin' Dan been lately?

GPK 12-30-2008 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Hey, where's your boy Thunderin' Dan been lately?


I don't know....:confused:

GPK 12-30-2008 09:06 PM

And Bigs is right, you need to get rid of that stupid fat bastard in your avatar. He's an idiot.

Rudeboyelvis 12-30-2008 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
And Bigs is right, you need to get rid of that stupid fat bastard in your avatar. He's an idiot.

The "kid" from Brooklyn??!! Fugedaboudit. He's a legend in his own mind. And available for speaking engagements. :eek:


I swear, when I bust a P4 he's gone. And will be replaced with Moran Atias from Crash:




so root for me

Bigsmc 12-31-2008 04:06 AM

Race 7

5 - Onotheregostokyo - Turns back to his favorite distance.
6 - Silver Mountain - Returns to scene and distance of his maiden breaker.
8 - Chimchar - A wise man once told me, don't be afraid to play the fastest dirt horse first time on turf.

Race 8 - Damn near hit the all button here.

3 - Wynn Wynn Deal - T. Wynn breeds them to win early and sell. 36n4 breeze points this one out. Dam's babies 1 for 3 first out.
4 - Cotswold Hills - Ritchey 16% with firsters. Works decent.
5 - Erotick Image - Been working on the farm so nothing to go by there. Dam's babies 2 for 5 at first asking.....
7 - Repenter - See RBE's comments.
8 - On Deck - Wary of the Del figs, but.... $105k yearling looks to have some talent and lures Rosemary.
10 - Wentworth - Nice string of works, looks ready.
11 - Rum Customer - See RBE's comments.

Race 9

4 - Dee's Rose - Working like a winner for D. Bennett
8 - Bamboo - I'll leave Joan Scott off a ticket as soon as she loses a race.

Race 10

6 - Gallant Bid - Improving filly doesn't need to improve to take this one. A single on smaller tix.
10 - Wynn for Mary - Drops in from MSW even try on opening day. Gets lasix and a major jock improvement. Ready to fire her best shot with two nice (for MCL 25k sorts) works since her last.


5,6,8/3,4,5,7,8,10,11/4,8/6,10 = $84

Smaller ticket: 5,6,8/3,4,5,7,8,9,10,11/4,8/6 = $48

GL

Bigsmc 12-31-2008 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
...Races of the day. Will be lucky to catch the last half of the program - here goes..

Race 6) 8 Juciy Point 7-5: Don't call it a comback! Towers over these, working great over the surface...Very soft spot off the layoff and obviously not the same horse as last Feb but if his morning efforts are any indication that he's ready, he wins easily.
12 Another Gulch 12-1: The Waz is en fuego ;) ...Did nothing in his last but has reversed form rapidly in the past he was as good as these in NY not that long ago
2 Salish 3-1: Respectable works off the layoff probably needs one but will include
5 Hungarian Gent 6-1: A DT Fan Favorite certainly prefers the long 1 turn but if Juicy Point isn't up to it he can factor here.

It's a Juicy Point/Hungarian Gent cold exacta.....

GPK 12-31-2008 06:54 AM

Come on Bigs, surely you see the single in the 8th race??

Bigsmc 12-31-2008 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Come on Bigs, surely you see the single in the 8th race??

No I don't. Honest.

GPK 12-31-2008 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
No I don't. Honest.


2 words - FERRER OFF

Bigsmc 12-31-2008 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
2 words - FERRER OFF

He may win, but that is not a single. If he does win, the P4 may be smaller than yesterday.

I was serious about my all button comment. Not one horse in this race would shock me hitting the wire first.

GPK 12-31-2008 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
He may win, but that is not a single. If he does win, the P4 may be smaller than yesterday.

I was serious about my all button comment. Not one horse in this race would shock me hitting the wire first.


I hear ya. I'm gonna play one pick 3 ticket Juicy Point/Silver Mountain/All

GPK 12-31-2008 08:03 AM

Pick 4

Ticket #1 - $11

6/7/4/all

Ticket #2 - $20

6/3,4,7,8,11/4,8/6,8

Ticket #3 - $30

7,8,10/3,4,7,8,11/4,8/6

GPK 12-31-2008 09:09 AM

Ok, this just in, the first five races on this card are horrific:zz: :zz:

Bigsmc 12-31-2008 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Ok, this just in, the first five races on EVERY card are horrific:zz: :zz:

FTFY

Rudeboyelvis 12-31-2008 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
It's a Juicy Point/Hungarian Gent cold exacta.....


Oh my God he called his shot :eek:

MSHCENCOM (Mush Central Command) has deployed LSMM's (Long Range, Strategic Mush Missles) to GPS coordinates consistant with that of Oldsmar, FL. It's all over, folks there's nothing that can be done now.

On a semi related note - if your using him, I absolutely must and will find a way to use my boy Bernie in the 7th. Changes to come after scratches

GPK 12-31-2008 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigsmc
FTFY


Im just sitting down to these....OMG. I really wanted to get to the OTB early...but I don't know if it's worth it:wf

GPK 12-31-2008 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Oh my God he called his shot :eek:

MSHCENCOM (Mush Central Command) has deployed LSMM's (Long Range, Strategic Mush Missles) to GPS coordinates consistant with that of Oldsmar, FL. It's all over, folks there's nothing that can be done now.

On a semi related note - if your using him, I absolutely must and will find a way to use my boy Bernie in the 7th. Changes to come after scratches


WTF did he just say???

Rudeboyelvis 12-31-2008 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
WTF did he just say???

Forgot to add the quote - it's up now

GPK 12-31-2008 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Im just sitting down to these....OMG. I really wanted to get to the OTB early...but I don't know if it's worth it:wf


Ok...after a long deliberation, I have made up my mind. It's worth it to get there early:)

Rudeboyelvis 12-31-2008 09:40 AM

Kev - are you making anything out of Centeno jumping from Dale Bennett to ride the Pyrite horse in the 9th? Bennett/Centeno 34% so far the meet and has been the guy for him - in fact is on Repenting in the race prior. And he's done well with Dee's Rose here... Seems more and more strange the longer I look at it...

GPK 12-31-2008 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Kev - are you making anything out of Centeno jumping from Dale Bennett to ride the Pyrite horse in the 9th? Bennett/Centeno 34% so far the meet and has been the guy for him - in fact is on Repenting in the race prior. And he's done well with Dee's Rose here... Seems more and more strange the longer I look at it...


I can't figure it out either Dan. Especially since Dee's Rose is proven over the surface:zz:

Rudeboyelvis 12-31-2008 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
I can't figure it out either Dan. Especially since Dee's Rose is proven over the surface:zz:

Hope we get a fair number of scratches so I can include - Pyriteville could maybe get it done, but not a horse I would use on it's merits alone - somethin' fishy

GPK 12-31-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Hope we get a fair number of scratches so I can include - Pyriteville could maybe get it done, but not a horse I would use on it's merits alone - somethin' fishy


Miguel having only 1 winner at the meet this far is keeping me from using.

Rudeboyelvis 12-31-2008 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Miguel having only 1 winner at the meet this far is keeping me from using.

Mike pointed it out to me, I'm sure you know, but the majority of his stock is the Pyrite stable horses that are privately bred Ohio breds which, while serviceable at Thistley and River Downs, don't always match up well here.



This is a good example.

GPK 12-31-2008 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Mike pointed it out to me, I'm sure you know, but the majority of his stock is the Pyrite stable horses that are privately bred Ohio breds which, while serviceable at Thistley and River Downs, don't always match up well here.



This is a good example.


Yeah....Ohio and horses from Da Mountain have not been running well at all this meet.

Bigsmc 12-31-2008 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Im just sitting down to these....OMG. I really wanted to get to the OTB early...but I don't know if it's worth it:wf

It's okay. They still pay out win money for the horse that crosses the wire first. Let's just say I'll be fairly deep in the early P3.

GPK 12-31-2008 10:08 AM

Good luck today boys. I'm out for the remainder of the day. Be safe tonight with anything ya'll have going on.

Happy New Years:tro:

Bigs, I will be in touch through out the day per usual.

Bigsmc 12-31-2008 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Mike pointed it out to me, I'm sure you know, but the majority of his stock is the Pyrite stable horses that are privately bred Ohio breds which, while serviceable at Thistley and River Downs, don't always match up well here.



This is a good example.

He usually gets them going later in the meet, but usually at lower levels. His win percentage will be okay by the end of the meet.

Bigsmc 12-31-2008 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GPK
Good luck today boys. I'm out for the remainder of the day. Be safe tonight with anything ya'll have going on.

Happy New Years:tro:

Bigs, I will be in touch through out the day per usual.

I'm still at work and have a dentist appt. later, so I won't be seeing much of the races.

Didn't say I wouldn't wager though. :D

Easy to be safe if you don't leave the house. Our main attraction tonight is the kids trying to stay up until midnight. Last year they made it to 10pm.

Good luck.

Rudeboyelvis 12-31-2008 10:24 AM

A change in plans has me working from the ponderosa today - on call this evening and tomorrow so if I get into anything tonight it'll be with some friends down the street - no driving for me ;)

Rudeboyelvis 12-31-2008 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Hope we get a fair number of scratches so I can include - Pyriteville could maybe get it done, but not a horse I would use on it's merits alone - somethin' fishy

No such luck - We lose the Lerman horse in the night cap - that's it :mad:

Wednesday, December 31, 2008

TRACK: Fast
TURF: Firm
Portable Rail: at 22 feet

Weather: Sunny – low 70’s

Super High 5 CARRYOVER: $0
Pick 6 CARRYOVER: $0

Scratches

Race # Horse # Name
3 4 Everblazing
4 2 Core's World
5 2 Bello Pappa
7 11 Concertos Song
7 12 Kemp
9 1 Casablanca Babe
9 6 Little Hummingbird
10 2 Anniesgothebeat

rgustafson 12-31-2008 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis
Hey, where's your boy Thunderin' Dan been lately?

Just to let you guys know, I live about 15 minutes from Running Aces and was out there over the weekend and met Dan. He's a nice kid who tries to help the players that come to bet there. For those of you that don't know, Running Aces is a half mile harness track and card club that opened last spring. It is about a twenty minute drive north of downtown Minneapolis on I-35. My take, from the few times I have been there, is that many of the people in there are brand new to betting on horses. From what I have seen, he tries to help the players cash a few tickes so they will return to play again. I hope the place doesn't go under in the current economy, because I am about a one hour drive from Canterbury, and in the winter if the roads are bad, that can easily stretch into two or more hours. Happy New Year and good racing to all:)

Rudeboyelvis 12-31-2008 12:04 PM

The 10 La Faye would have been a whale of a claim for 12.5. She'll go 6F next out in MSW if they still have her.

ateamstupid 12-31-2008 01:31 PM

FWIW, that Pyriteville ran a huge race on the sheets three back. If she runs back, she crushes 'em. I'm staying away from that race though, since I could justify going five different ways in a six-horse field. I do like Wynn's horse in the finale though with Sadiesday and Gallant Bid.

Couple of small wagers to finish the year:

R6:

$6 Pick 3
8 / 7 / 8

$3 Pick 3
8 / 7 / 3,7

$1 Pick 3
2,6 / 7 / 3,7,8

Scav 12-31-2008 01:53 PM

P4
 
7: 3,5,6,9
8: 3,4,7,8,11
9: 4
10: 5,6,10

declansharbor 12-31-2008 02:08 PM

Last bets of 2008. Let's hope one of em's a winner. Yesterday's P4 money.

1,2,3,4 // 3,7,8,11 // 4,8 // 6,9

2,3,6 // 4,7,10 // 2,4,8 // 6

R8
$5 ex bx 7 over 3,4

$111 total...GL all!!!


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