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ateamstupid 12-28-2008 02:22 PM

Dick Jauron/Turk Schonert/Jets/Dolphins playalong thread
 
Oh my God, are they terrible. Trent Edwards sucks too. Enjoy perpetual mediocrity, Bills fans. Yes, I'm bitter.

By the way, I hope Pats fans don't really think the Jets are going to play worth a **** and help them out.

9-7 + miss playoffs + Pats fail > 10-6 + miss playoffs + Pats win AFC East

ateamstupid 12-28-2008 03:31 PM

You know what? **** it. Too many arrogant Dolphin fans reminding me why I hated them before they started sucking, and too many dumbass ESPN people clamoring for the Cinderella story. "ZOMG! They were 1-15 and now they're good! HUH?!?!?!"

No laying down. I don't give a **** if the Pats make it. They'll die early in the playoffs anyway. Balls to the wall and hope for a Jaguars miracle.

ateamstupid 12-28-2008 03:46 PM

Nice catch Ricky.

ateamstupid 12-28-2008 03:58 PM

Hey Schotty, HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU GO EMPTY SET ON 3RD & SHORT?! God is he predictable.

ateamstupid 12-28-2008 04:06 PM

Maybe now Nantz and Simms will stop gargling Chad's kids between every play. One turnover called back, and there's another one that stands. I don't remember Chad getting his knob slobbed this much when he was with the Jets.

golfer 12-28-2008 04:19 PM

I've got the Jags/Ravens game on here in Jax, obviously. The Jags appear to have QUIT, it's now 17-7, Flacco is picking them apart.

ateamstupid 12-28-2008 04:30 PM

LOL, that's a nice push-off by Ginn.

I don't want to hear anymore about how the Jets don't blitz enough. They blitz plenty, they just get beaten when they don't.

ateamstupid 12-28-2008 04:32 PM

Nice job Brett. Now go whine to everyone about how your shoulder hurts, even though you were throwing 40-yard lasers in the first quarter. I've never seen a guy act injured after every interception until I saw his bullshit this year. Bring in Clemens, he'll do fine.

Cannon Shell 12-28-2008 04:33 PM

Boo Hoo Brett

golfer 12-28-2008 04:35 PM

Jags are finished! 24-7. Jets are a disgrace, it doesn't even matter anymore.

ateamstupid 12-28-2008 04:35 PM

Of course he's healthy enough to go back on the field in two minutes. It was JUUUST injured enough to blame his 21 interceptions on, but not hurt enough to keep him off the field.

Cannon Shell 12-28-2008 04:39 PM

How bout those Cowboys!!!! down 24-3

TheSpyder 12-28-2008 05:06 PM

Good for them. That team is a mess
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
How bout those Cowboys!!!! down 24-3


ateamstupid 12-28-2008 05:07 PM

****ing Jaguars. Probably doesn't matter, but you're down 24-7 midway through the third and you're going for it on fourth down in field goal range? KICK THE BLOODY FIELD GOAL, YOU NEED THREE SCORES ANYWAY.

Coach Pants 12-28-2008 05:13 PM

I'm comfortable



















throwing interceptions.

Cannon Shell 12-28-2008 05:23 PM

Phi 41 Dal 3

Coach Pants 12-28-2008 05:39 PM

The Cowboys should put Romo on the trading block while he's still got a little value left.

AeWingnut 12-28-2008 05:50 PM

who should the Bears trade?

Coach Pants 12-28-2008 06:06 PM

Lovie Smith.

ateamstupid 12-28-2008 06:57 PM

I really hope Favre's MRI comes back completely clean so he can stop blaming his 22 interceptions on some phantom shoulder injury. He was firing lasers all day today, he's just a dumbass.

pgardn 12-28-2008 07:02 PM

If the Jets fire Mangini after this season...
then they are who we thought they were.

Cannon Shell 12-28-2008 07:38 PM


Cannon Shell 12-28-2008 07:40 PM


GBBob 12-28-2008 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3795922

Cannon Shell 12-28-2008 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GBBob

Whatever he does is fine, todays game was worth it.

MaTH716 12-28-2008 08:31 PM

There is a chance that Parcells does leave, depending how deep the fish go in the playoffs. Since he left the Giants Mr Parcells has only taken jobs with nothing but tremendous upside.

1993 takes over in NE after they go 2-14 the year before. Leaves after they win the AFC championship in 1996.

1997 takes over a team that when 1-15 the year before. Leaves after going 8-8 in 1999 (I believe that's the year Testaverde got hurt very early in the season). But he did have them less than a half away from going to the Super Bowl, blowing a second half lead at Denver. They went 12-4 that season.

2003 Goes to Dallas and takes over a team that went 5-11 the prior season. Also with an owner who will throw out the bucks. Was there 4 seasons and made the playoffs twice. He had 4 different QB's in 4 years. The last year was the Romo dropping the snap in Seattle.

2008 Helps build a team that was 1-15 the year before. If they go deep here, he might think that his work is done in Miami.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-28-2008 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Maybe now Nantz and Simms will stop gargling Chad's kids between every play. One turnover called back, and there's another one that stands. I don't remember Chad getting his knob slobbed this much when he was with the Jets.

you lost , your team sucks and so does that re -re bret farve..hata/

ateamstupid 12-28-2008 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
you lost , your team sucks and so does that re -re bret farve..hata/

:rolleyes: How did the Bears do?

Oh wait, you jumped off their bandwagon a while ago. I'm starting a Yahoo pool to see who can guess Hooves' 2009 team.

Coach Pants 12-28-2008 11:45 PM


philcski 12-29-2008 09:09 AM

Mangini...






OUT.

Bigsmc 12-29-2008 09:12 AM

Where is the Gruden........out post?

ddthetide 12-29-2008 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc
Where is the Gruden........out post?

that was tough to watch. even the Bucs defense collapsed the last couple games. monte kiffin leaving for ut, Bucs might be a mess too.

golfer 12-29-2008 02:28 PM

I am VERY surprised, although I think he earned his unemployment. I just didn't think Woody Johnson was the type of owner to make a move like this. I only hope that he and Tannenbaum did this because they have a CLEAR plan on who will be next. Mangini wasn't imcompetent, just nothing special. The fact of the matter is Tannenbaum should be on thin ice as well. Nothing hurts an organization more than screwing up a top 10 pick, and until proven otherwise, by choosing Gholsten, that's exactly what they did.

MaTH716 12-29-2008 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by golfer
I am VERY surprised, although I think he earned his unemployment. I just didn't think Woody Johnson was the type of owner to make a move like this. I only hope that he and Tannenbaum did this because they have a CLEAR plan on who will be next. Mangini wasn't imcompetent, just nothing special. The fact of the matter is Tannenbaum should be on thin ice as well. Nothing hurts an organization more than screwing up a top 10 pick, and until proven otherwise, by choosing Gholsten, that's exactly what they did.

This seems to be a flat out buisness descion. Negativity in Jet land is at an all time high. Blowing a season after a 8-3 start which included a convincing win on the road against arguably the best team in the leauge at the time is unacceptable. Losing 4 games on the west coast against 3 non playoff teams doesn't bode well too. Factor that in with the PSL's that the team is trying to sell to the public and it creates a bigger Sh!T Storm. Basically the fans wanted his head and I think Woody gave it to them. I personally didn't think that he was that good of a coach. He never seem to make any sort of adjustments during the games. Plus they always seemed to give up on the run to early. Also Leon Washington doens't get enough touches.
As far as Tannenbaum goes, he accquired guys that did make the team better. They were 8-3 with the same personnel. 1-4 against 4 non playoff teams doesn't go on the GM, that's goes on the team and the coaching staff. As far as the draft goes, they really don't have the best luck when it comes to drafting anyway. Even if Gholston turned out to be something, how much of a difference would have he really made?
Who they are going to bring in is a different question. I don't have the slightest idea who will be the next coach. I do know that the 2 biggest fish want to be coach and GM (Cowher,Holmgren). Maybe Tannenbaum will take another job in the organization for the benifit of the team.

golfer 12-29-2008 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716
This seems to be a flat out buisness descion. Negativity in Jet land is at an all time high. Blowing a season after a 8-3 start which included a convincing win on the road against arguably the best team in the leauge at the time is unacceptable. Losing 4 games on the west coast against 3 non playoff teams doesn't bode well too. Factor that in with the PSL's that the team is trying to sell to the public and it creates a bigger Sh!T Storm. Basically the fans wanted his head and I think Woody gave it to them. I personally didn't think that he was that good of a coach. He never seem to make any sort of adjustments during the games. Plus they always seemed to give up on the run to early. Also Leon Washington doens't get enough touches.
As far as Tannenbaum goes, he accquired guys that did make the team better. They were 8-3 with the same personnel. 1-4 against 4 non playoff teams doesn't go on the GM, that's goes on the team and the coaching staff. As far as the draft goes, they really don't have the best luck when it comes to drafting anyway. Even if Gholston turned out to be something, how much of a difference would have he really made?
Who they are going to bring in is a different question. I don't have the slightest idea who will be the next coach. I do know that the 2 biggest fish want to be coach and GM (Cowher,Holmgren). Maybe Tannenbaum will take another job in the organization for the benifit of the team.


Considering the pass rush was non-existent midway through the season, and certainly in the last 5 games, he or anyone else who could get to the qb would have made a big difference. Gholsten couldn't even get himself in uniform late in the season.

The 8-3 start was as big a testament to the last place schedule they were presented with this season as anything else. The 1-4 finish was just the Jets being, well, the Jets. But I hold everyone from coaches to GM's to the players responsible. They voted for the Pro Bowl a few weeks too early.

ESPN just reported that Cowher is interested in speaking with the Jets. Perhaps he is the plan.

Cannon Shell 12-29-2008 04:27 PM

Since when has the Coach/GM thing been a good idea? I think cowher is a good coach but as far as I know has zero experience as a GM and are you gonna give him 10 million a year to learn on the job?

golfer 12-29-2008 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I might have to take back the pies I gave Matt, because you hit the nail on the head here. The pass rush was a disgrace. And the Jets just being the Jets is also dead on. But that was a different team the last 5 games then we saw when they were winning 4 in a row. I just hope they don't bring in a guy like Marty Shottenheimer. And I have no idea what they are going to do with the QB situation. Hopefully Favre retires, but Clemens isn't the answer. Another fun off season as a Jets fan....

They weren't the same team. Talk about mentally fragile. One bad game against Denver, then the bottom falls out. Kris Jenkins DISAPEARED, and I believe he was basically a masking agent (kind of like andro) for the major deficiencies of that defense. Did Kerry Rhodes make even 1 play all season? Perhaps that game in Nashville was their Super Bowl?

I can't think of one good reason why Favre should return. If his shoulder was bad, he was hurting the team playing through it. If it wasn't, well he's just washed up. You know what else was strange in the final 5 games? Suddenly, none of the receivers were capable of getting open.. and against some of the worst pass defenses in the league???... ABSURD and DISGRACEFUL.
Which is why Mangini got what he deserved.


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