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MaTH716 12-23-2008 02:31 PM

Getting a little ridiculous!
 
They must have some kind of cash machine in the bronx!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3790141

GBBob 12-23-2008 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaTH716
They must have some kind of cash machine in the bronx!

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3790141

Yeah...and it's being funded by the citizens of NY..


I mean..come on...this is crazy

SniperSB23 12-23-2008 02:47 PM

I was looking at Teixeira for 8 years earlier and had decided it was rather stupid, glad to see it was the Yankees that stepped in with the stupidity. Here's the numbers I dug up.

Top ten similar players through Age 28:

Carlos Delgado*(935)
Kent Hrbek*(925)
Fred McGriff*(913)
Jim Thome*(911)
Will Clark*(910)
Jeff Bagwell*(909)
Willie McCovey*(906)
Richie Sexson*(904)
Shawn Green*(901)
Paul Konerko*(899)

The worst case is Hrbek and Green who only made it to what would be year 6 of the contract before being out of baseball. Sexson and Konerko are yet to hit 34 and are already on their way out. So you have a 6 in 10 success rate with those six all being big name players in Delgado, McGriff, Thome, Clark, Bagwell, and McCovey. Here are their average statistics at 34-36.

At 34 - .274 22 HRs 77 RBIs
At 35 - .283 29 HRs 84 RBIs
At 36 - .277 28 HRs 90 RBIs

A solid player but is that really someone you want to be paying $20 million a year? Not to mention that he could turn out a Green/Hrbek/Sexson/Konerko.

Cannon Shell 12-23-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I was looking at Teixeira for 8 years earlier and had decided it was rather stupid, glad to see it was the Yankees that stepped in with the stupidity. Here's the numbers I dug up.

Top ten similar players through Age 28:

Carlos Delgado*(935)
Kent Hrbek*(925)
Fred McGriff*(913)
Jim Thome*(911)
Will Clark*(910)
Jeff Bagwell*(909)
Willie McCovey*(906)
Richie Sexson*(904)
Shawn Green*(901)
Paul Konerko*(899)

The worst case is Hrbek and Green who only made it to what would be year 6 of the contract before being out of baseball. Sexson and Konerko are yet to hit 34 and are already on their way out. So you have a 6 in 10 success rate with those six all being big name players in Delgado, McGriff, Thome, Clark, Bagwell, and McCovey. Here are their average statistics at 34-36.

At 34 - .274 22 HRs 77 RBIs
At 35 - .283 29 HRs 84 RBIs
At 36 - .277 28 HRs 90 RBIs

A solid player but is that really someone you want to be paying $20 million a year? Not to mention that he could turn out a Green/Hrbek/Sexson/Konerko.

He is worth the money for the next 4 or 5 years and is a far superior defensive player to all of those players. Not to mention that he is a switch hitter who will have Arod hitting behind him (assuming the bat him third and Arod 4th which is the logical scenario) meaning he will see pitches and score lots of runs. The deal is most likely a bad one in when he is 37 but that is a long ways off. He is a much better deal at the numbers suggested than Sabathia's deal.

MaTH716 12-23-2008 03:05 PM

Does this mean that they are out of the Manny sweepstakes?

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-23-2008 03:05 PM

the evil empire is back..:mad:

SniperSB23 12-23-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He is worth the money for the next 4 or 5 years and is a far superior defensive player to all of those players. Not to mention that he is a switch hitter who will have Arod hitting behind him (assuming the bat him third and Arod 4th which is the logical scenario) meaning he will see pitches and score lots of runs. The deal is most likely a bad one in when he is 37 but that is a long ways off. He is a much better deal at the numbers suggested than Sabathia's deal.

At a 6 year deal he's worth $20 million a year, those extra two years though make it a very risky deal, not that the Yankees seem to care about those even though they keep getting burnt on them. I just read the part about the Yankees now having the four highest paid players in baseball, that is nuts. Especially when you factor in that they also have the highest paid catcher, highest paid closer, and highest paid #2 starter in baseball to go with it. And past their primes Matsui and Damon making $13 million each. Yet the taxpayers of NYC are supposed to give them $450 million to finance the stadium? What leverage do they have? Not like they are going to move out of town if they don't get that money. That would be franchise suicide.

SniperSB23 12-23-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716
Does this mean that they are out of the Manny sweepstakes?

They are never out of any sweepstakes.

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-23-2008 03:13 PM

they can and will spend all they want .and still miss the playoffs.. too many stars in the line up means that if the team isnt a team..remember their is no 'i' in team..it will implode..

SniperSB23 12-23-2008 03:18 PM

In addition to their 2009 payroll swelling to $200 million, they now have 9 players under contract for 2010 at a combined payroll over $157 million. And those 9 players include Kei Igawa.

Cannon Shell 12-23-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
At a 6 year deal he's worth $20 million a year, those extra two years though make it a very risky deal, not that the Yankees seem to care about those even though they keep getting burnt on them. I just read the part about the Yankees now having the four highest paid players in baseball, that is nuts. Especially when you factor in that they also have the highest paid catcher, highest paid closer, and highest paid #2 starter in baseball to go with it. And past their primes Matsui and Damon making $13 million each. Yet the taxpayers of NYC are supposed to give them $450 million to finance the stadium? What leverage do they have? Not like they are going to move out of town if they don't get that money. That would be franchise suicide.

Baseball is likely to lower the margin of the salary tax to make the yankees pay more in the next contract. The fact that they are getting taxpayer dollars while flaunting their wealth is troubling. But on a strictly baseball on the field move this was a huge move up for them in the lineup and at 1st. He is easily the best 1st baseman they have had since Mattingly and is a perfect fit for their lineup. They still have some issues in the outfield and behind the plate but the players they have signed are all better than the players they replace and in Tex's case far better.

Cannon Shell 12-23-2008 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
In addition to their 2009 payroll swelling to $200 million, they now have 9 players under contract for 2010 at a combined payroll over $157 million. And those 9 players include Kei Igawa.

With little talent major league ready in the minors besides A. Jackson.

GBBob 12-23-2008 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
With little talent major league ready in the minors besides A. Jackson.

If they shut down their entire Minor League system ( do they really need it anyway?), they could save enough to justify signing Manny next.

SniperSB23 12-23-2008 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Baseball is likely to lower the margin of the salary tax to make the yankees pay more in the next contract. The fact that they are getting taxpayer dollars while flaunting their wealth is troubling. But on a strictly baseball on the field move this was a huge move up for them in the lineup and at 1st. He is easily the best 1st baseman they have had since Mattingly and is a perfect fit for their lineup. They still have some issues in the outfield and behind the plate but the players they have signed are all better than the players they replace and in Tex's case far better.

It's a good baseball move, especially in the short run but has the potential to backfire in the last three years of the deal. I wouldn't have as big a problem with it if they weren't asking for taxpayer money, then it would just be the Yankees being the Yankees. Now it is more a slap in the face at taxpayers.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-23-2008 03:30 PM

It's a piss poor deal. What do the Yanks want to accomplish? Get a ring? I don't think this is the guy for that. If you're talking about getting to the post, then sure, but they surely want more than that. I don't get the infatuation with him. Every team he has been on looks pretty flat in the crunch. The Texas teams always lacked fire in the gut. The Angels (in the post) lacked any fire in the post with him. Go back and try looking at the series his team just lost to Boston in the post. WTF you giving this guy all this $$ for if he isn't doing anything more than a couple singles a game? That's typical of that guy in big games when he was with Texas too. Fly balls, lil singles, strike outs, walks, fielder choice ground ball outs. You see a guy (in that series against Boston) that's that valuable in the post? Huh? He's a good citizen and all that, but, in the post, the YANKS are probably gunna get what he did for the Halos in the post. It ain't all that. Yea, he's tame. He is too fkn tame. In my opinion, this is the worst signing this winter. He is not a difference maker in the post. The other contracts have a possiblity of being great in the post, but there again, Sabathia hasn't been that great in the post. Yanks are gunna lose in the post.

Cannon Shell 12-23-2008 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
If they shut down their entire Minor League system ( do they really need it anyway?), they could save enough to justify signing Manny next.

Mayor Doucheberg may just increase another tax to pay for him.

Cannon Shell 12-23-2008 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
It's a piss poor deal. What do the Yanks want to accomplish? Get a ring? I don't think this is the guy for that. If you're talking about getting to the post, then sure, but they surely want more than that. I don't get the infatuation with him. Every team he has been on looks pretty flat in the crunch. The Texas teams always lacked fire in the gut. The Angels (in the post) lacked any fire in the post with him. Go back and try looking at the series his team just lost to Boston in the post. WTF you giving this guy all this $$ for if he isn't doing anything more than a couple singles a game? That's typical of that guy in big games when he was with Texas too. Fly balls, lil singles, strike outs, walks, fielder choice ground ball outs. You see a guy (in that series against Boston) that's that valuable in the post? Huh? He's a good citizen and all that, but, in the post, the YANKS are probably gunna get what he did for the Halos in the post. It ain't all that. Yea, he's tame. He is too fkn tame. In my opinion, this is the worst signing this winter. He is not a difference maker in the post. The other contracts have a possiblity of being great in the post, but there again, Sabathia hasn't been that great in the post.

You would have hated Ernie Banks

SCUDSBROTHER 12-23-2008 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
You would have hated Ernie Banks

We talkin' about spending money to get a ring, or spending money to have a decent 162 game season? They better find some post season players, or it's gunna be a while before they get a ring.

SniperSB23 12-23-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
It's a piss poor deal. What do the Yanks want to accomplish? Get a ring? I don't think this is the guy for that. If you're talking about getting to the post, then sure, but they surely want more than that. I don't get the infatuation with him. Every team he has been on looks pretty flat in the crunch. The Texas teams always lacked fire in the gut. The Angels (in the post) lacked any fire in the post with him. Go back and try looking at the series his team just lost to Boston in the post. WTF you giving this guy all this $$ for if he isn't doing anything more than a couple singles a game? That's typical of that guy in big games when he was with Texas too. Fly balls, lil singles, strike outs, walks, fielder choice ground ball outs. You see a guy (in that series against Boston) that's that valuable in the post? Huh? He's a good citizen and all that, but, in the post, the YANKS are probably gunna get what he did for the Halos in the post. It ain't all that. Yea, he's tame. He is too fkn tame. In my opinion, this is the worst signing this winter. He is not a difference maker in the post. The other contracts have a possiblity of being great in the post, but there again, Sabathia hasn't been that great in the post. Yanks are gunna lose in the post.

He hit .467 in that postseason series with a .550 OBP, tough to bash him off that. His lifetime average also increases from .282 with the bases empty to .324 with RISP which would seem a good indication of clutch (compare to A-Rod who goes from .302 to .303 and Jeter who goes from .300 to .317). So not really sure why that would be a concern.

phystech 12-23-2008 03:45 PM

Orioles fan's hearts are broken once again....

Thought the O's had a shot at getting Tex since he grew up local to Baltimore. But ol' Asbestos Pete wouldn't shake the cobwebs out of his pocketbook even with the MASN gift MLB gave him.

Ah well, it's always easy getting a seat at Camden Yards now, so there's one up-side....

SCUDSBROTHER 12-23-2008 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23
He hit .467 in that postseason series with a .550 OBP, tough to bash him off that. His lifetime average also increases from .282 with the bases empty to .324 with RISP which would seem a good indication of clutch (compare to A-Rod who goes from .302 to .303 and Jeter who goes from .300 to .317). So not really sure why that would be a concern.

I don't remember the guy getting anything better than a single in the post against Boston. I guess I missed it. The Halos were pretty boring offensively in that series(this is the point.) Seems like a great fit for a Yanks organization that's been tanking in the post. I don't see him being a difference maker (not when it comes to their ultimate goal of getting a ring.)

declansharbor 12-23-2008 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead
they can and will spend all they want .and still miss the playoffs.. too many stars in the line up means that if the team isnt a team..remember their is no 'i' in team..it will implode..

The biggest spender rarely wins it all. I'll gander a guess and say they make it to October, but fall short of the ultimate goal. I say this only because I hate Hank.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-23-2008 04:05 PM

Teix had 1 rbi in that post. K, so fk that signing. It's stupid. You don't have to be that smart to see that a guy getting 1 rbi in the post is not the best signing for the purposes of getting a ring. I don't get it. I don't fear him in the post. I know who to fear in the post(ain't him.)

Cannon Shell 12-23-2008 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
Teix had 1 rbi in that post. K, so fk that signing. It's stupid. You don't have to be that smart to see that a guy getting 1 rbi in the post is not the best signing for the purposes of getting a ring. I don't get it. I don't fear him in the post. I know who to fear in the post(ain't him.)

He hit .467 tardo. RBI's are a terribly overrated stat simply because it is heavily tilted towards the ability of the men ahead of you in the order getting on base rather than your ability to drive them in. If no one is on when you get hits you cant get rbi's

ateamstupid 12-23-2008 05:31 PM

It was one series, but Tex and Hunter were the only guys consistently on base in that series for the Angels.

Stickhorse 12-23-2008 06:14 PM

I hate the Yankees but wish my team would make the effort that they do. They have awful deep pockets. I doubt that the Yanks will spend $$$ on Manny now but stranger things have happened.

Yankees will make the playoffs unless both Burnett and Sabathia tank which is not too likely.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-23-2008 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He hit .467 tardo. RBI's are a terribly overrated stat simply because it is heavily tilted towards the ability of the men ahead of you in the order getting on base rather than your ability to drive them in. If no one is on when you get hits you cant get rbi's

Well, if a guy is on 1st base, you can't get an rbi with a single. That's what I am saying. You need extra base hits to score a guy from 1st. You're gunna pay this much money for a guy who had no extra-base hits in 20 at bats against Boston? His sole rbi was on a sac fly. Look how many times there is a guy on 1st, and Tex singled(extra base hit could of given team a chance for a run.) Look how many times in this series Tex gets a single, and Guerrero follows with a single. Those would have been run scoring situations if Tex had doubled. Here are his at bats with runners in scoring position:

game 2: guy at 3rd with 1 out...Tex gets Sac Fly(only RBI of the series)

game 3: guy at 3rd with 1 out...Tex strikes out(so clutch indeed)

game 3: runners on 1st n' 2nd with 2 outs..Tex grounds out(so clutch indeed)

game 3: runners on 1st n' 3rd with 2 outs: Tex grounds out(so clutch indeed)

game 4: runner on 2nd base with 2 outs..Tex walks(single would have been clutch..it's his job to get that run home..not leading is he?)

game 4: runners on 1st n' 3rd with 2 outs.....Tex struck out(so clutch..go home, watch others play )

So, you geniuses are paying all this cash to a guy who didn't get an extra base hit in the series. He only got 1 rbi in the series, and the reason for that is not as Canon tried to Snow you with(lack of opportunities.) No, the reason is because he came up with runners in scoring position 6 times, and failed to get them home in 5 of those 6 chances. He did not get a hit at all when runners were in scoring position. You can say he hit for a good average in the series, but he was not impactful. Can he be impactful in the post? I have never seen this guy as a clutch leader. If someone else leads, I think he may relax enough to pile on. So, if you want this contract to get the Yanks a ring, then you need an offensive post-season leader(ain't him.)

SCUDSBROTHER 12-23-2008 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He hit .467 tardo. RBI's are a terribly overrated stat simply because it is heavily tilted towards the ability of the men ahead of you in the order getting on base rather than your ability to drive them in. If no one is on when you get hits you cant get rbi's

In game 1, Andersen, Tex, and Guerrero hit .500(2 for 4,) and Hunter hit .666(2 for 3.) They got 1 run in the whole game. Why? Well, all 8 hits were singles. K? No extra base hits. Good way to lose in the post is to have your highly paid power hitters hit like your lead-off hitters.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-23-2008 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
It was one series, but Tex and Hunter were the only guys consistently on base in that series for the Angels.

6 times he had a chance to get a hit with men in scoring position. Didn't do it. 4 outs, a non-run-scoring walk, and a sac fly. When did he hit? He got singles n' walks with nobody on base, or with a runner on 1st base. He seems to be a good person, but that's causing people to overlook some things about him. If the goal is just to make the post, then o.k. I don't think he is ever gunna carry a team in the playoffs. For some reason, people must think he will. We have 20 at bats against Boston without an extra- base hit. To me, it's atleast 80 mil over his worth. I've never said anything about him, because he seems to be a decent person, and people like him. He had a great regular season, and a non-impactful post season. I'd look for a lil less productive regular season, and another non-impactful post season.

Cannon Shell 12-23-2008 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
6 times he had a chance to get a hit with men in scoring position. Didn't do it. 4 outs, a non-run-scoring walk, and a sac fly. When did he hit? He got singles n' walks with nobody on base, or with a runner on 1st base. He seems to be a good person, but that's causing people to overlook some things about him. If the goal is just to make the post, then o.k. I don't think he is ever gunna carry a team in the playoffs. For some reason, people must think he will. We have 20 at bats against Boston without an extra- base hit. To me, it's atleast 80 mil over his worth. I've never said anything about him, because he seems to be a decent person, and people like him. He had a great regular season, and a non-impactful post season. I'd look for a lil less productive regular season, and another non-impactful post season.

He is still better than Garvey

dalakhani 12-23-2008 10:58 PM

Hal and Hank just don't understand. You don't spend that kind of money on pitching and then back it up with no defense.

Texiera is a good defensive first baseman and Arod is a gifted infielder playing out of position at third. Only the Yankees could have their two best defensive players playing at the positions where you probably need defense the least.

This is a terribly constructed team. Im a fan but this will end up very badly in regard to expectation. Its nice that the Steinbrenners want to spend the money but these rent a team championships rarely work. Only Florida in 1997 and Arizona in 2001 come to mind as teams that succeeded winning this way but those teams bought a little defense along the way.

Carlos Beltran would have signed for 15 million per in 2005. That seems like a serious bargain now. Now backing up our 25 million per pitcher we have a 33 yr old short stop, a 37 year old catcher, and an outfield that averages about 35 years old. And when our 292 pound pitcher loses wind in the 7th, we dont know who is going to pitch the 8th to get to our 37 year old closer.

Yes...some how this makes sense.

SCUDSBROTHER 12-24-2008 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He is still better than Garvey


http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200811103672827

Wow...look at the last quarter of that interview. LOL, Irish American Hall of Fame? He still thinks oldtimers might put him in the real one? Just turned 60, and still does public appearances at Hooters sometimes ..LOL.

Bigsmc 12-24-2008 03:30 AM

They're on tilt because the Rays....the f'ing Rays....buried them last year and the Old Man got reminded of it every morning when the Tampa Tribune hit his doorstep throughout the season.

Storm Cadet 12-24-2008 08:32 AM

Baseball franchises,as pointed out yesterday on ESPN,are a business. The Yankees are a corporation just like IBM.

Their player salary is say 200 million and they bring in over 600 million from fans, radio, TV contracts etc. Their salaries are LOWER than last season.

So they pay MLB a lousy 25 mil in luxury tax,

I wish GM, Ford and all the other lousy companies we taxpayers are bailing out would run their business the way the Yankees do. And do you think all those owners who are taking the Yankees luxury tax profits are spending it on their team or lining their own pockets like AIG, Citibank, GM, JP Morgan?

Would you rather (and I know most Yankee haters would say yes) the Yankees go back to their days of spending 100 million on bums, get less than 1 million fans, be a non factor like the early 70's and most of the 80's with crickets as fans in Yankee Stadium. The place was as deserted as Aqueduct Racetrack is now!

I am a fan and want to see stars play here, why do you think they pack the Stadium every game? All of NY is like that as are most big market teams. Stars drive attendance which drives the profit margin which is what companies are supposed to do. NOT winning a Championship for 8 years HAS NOT made Yankee tickets any less desirable. Just try getting a seat this year. Almost impossible already. Ever try getting a spring training ticket for the Yankees? Already almost sold out. Ever try getting a good seat on the road to watch the Yankees? Hah, the other greedy owners who take the Yankees luxury tax and put it right into their pockets, circle the dates the Yankees come to town, as they do for the Red Sox. Hotels and restaurants are booked months in advance for the dates the Yanks come to town. Ask the other owners if they want the Yankees to go back to 1970 status when they had the Horace Clark's of the world playing for them.

Cannon Shell 12-24-2008 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Storm Cadet
Baseball franchises,as pointed out yesterday on ESPN,are a business. The Yankees are a corporation just like IBM.

Their player salary is say 200 million and they bring in over 600 million from fans, radio, TV contracts etc. Their salaries are LOWER than last season.

So they pay MLB a lousy 25 mil in luxury tax,

I wish GM, Ford and all the other lousy companies we taxpayers are bailing out would run their business the way the Yankees do. And do you think all those owners who are taking the Yankees luxury tax profits are spending it on their team or lining their own pockets like AIG, Citibank, GM, JP Morgan?

Would you rather (and I know most Yankee haters would say yes) the Yankees go back to their days of spending 100 million on bums, get less than 1 million fans, be a non factor like the early 70's and most of the 80's with crickets as fans in Yankee Stadium. The place was as deserted as Aqueduct Racetrack is now!

I am a fan and want to see stars play here, why do you think they pack the Stadium every game? All of NY is like that as are most big market teams. Stars drive attendance which drives the profit margin which is what companies are supposed to do. NOT winning a Championship for 8 years HAS NOT made Yankee tickets any less desirable. Just try getting a seat this year. Almost impossible already. Ever try getting a spring training ticket for the Yankees? Already almost sold out. Ever try getting a good seat on the road to watch the Yankees? Hah, the other greedy owners who take the Yankees luxury tax and put it right into their pockets, circle the dates the Yankees come to town, as they do for the Red Sox. Hotels and restaurants are booked months in advance for the dates the Yanks come to town. Ask the other owners if they want the Yankees to go back to 1970 status when they had the Horace Clark's of the world playing for them.

Hey every good story must have a villan

Cannon Shell 12-24-2008 09:32 AM

http://www.fannation.com/si_blogs/fo...uch-silverware

Cannon Shell 12-24-2008 09:34 AM


SniperSB23 12-24-2008 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Storm Cadet
Baseball franchises,as pointed out yesterday on ESPN,are a business. The Yankees are a corporation just like IBM.

Their player salary is say 200 million and they bring in over 600 million from fans, radio, TV contracts etc. Their salaries are LOWER than last season.

So they pay MLB a lousy 25 mil in luxury tax,

I wish GM, Ford and all the other lousy companies we taxpayers are bailing out would run their business the way the Yankees do. And do you think all those owners who are taking the Yankees luxury tax profits are spending it on their team or lining their own pockets like AIG, Citibank, GM, JP Morgan?

Would you rather (and I know most Yankee haters would say yes) the Yankees go back to their days of spending 100 million on bums, get less than 1 million fans, be a non factor like the early 70's and most of the 80's with crickets as fans in Yankee Stadium. The place was as deserted as Aqueduct Racetrack is now!

I am a fan and want to see stars play here, why do you think they pack the Stadium every game? All of NY is like that as are most big market teams. Stars drive attendance which drives the profit margin which is what companies are supposed to do. NOT winning a Championship for 8 years HAS NOT made Yankee tickets any less desirable. Just try getting a seat this year. Almost impossible already. Ever try getting a spring training ticket for the Yankees? Already almost sold out. Ever try getting a good seat on the road to watch the Yankees? Hah, the other greedy owners who take the Yankees luxury tax and put it right into their pockets, circle the dates the Yankees come to town, as they do for the Red Sox. Hotels and restaurants are booked months in advance for the dates the Yanks come to town. Ask the other owners if they want the Yankees to go back to 1970 status when they had the Horace Clark's of the world playing for them.

The thing is, the Yanks are looking for a bailout just like those other companies in the form of a $450 million taxpayer subsidy for the construction of the new stadium. Yet unlike those companies who are giving off the public image that they are cutting back the Yankees are thumbing their nose at the taxpayers bailing them out. The city shouldn't give them their money and dare them to leave town. They'll never in a million years do it. The only reason you subsidize a stadium is if you believe the team will leave if you don't. Or if you're Rudy Giuliani and the Yanks will hire all your friends to work for them if you subsidize it.

Storm Cadet 12-24-2008 10:33 AM

I'd rather give the Yankees the money and drive a Honda then to watch the Tokyo Giants and drive a GM:D

alysheba4 12-24-2008 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
He hit .467 tardo. RBI's are a terribly overrated stat simply because it is heavily tilted towards the ability of the men ahead of you in the order getting on base rather than your ability to drive them in. If no one is on when you get hits you cant get rbi's

.......its not worth responding when there are fools that cant see this guy is a monster:confused:


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