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dellinger63 12-09-2008 01:37 PM

Rahm Emanuel
 
IMO he is likely Individual C in the Blago indictment (a former House Rep) and if that is true it spells trouble with a capital T for Obama.

GBBob 12-09-2008 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
IMO he is likely Individual C in the Blago indictment (a former House Rep) and if that is true it spells trouble with a capital T for Obama.

If you are correct on the first part of your statement, then yes..that is a problem

dellinger63 12-09-2008 01:53 PM

check this out...

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...nds-appraisal/

GBBob 12-09-2008 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

That's old news though..Nothing new there? From October and was all over the papers here

dellinger63 12-09-2008 02:08 PM

it was tagged on Drudge as causing Obama to get a Grand Jury subpoena. Whether he has gotten it yet isn't clear.

hi_im_god 12-09-2008 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
IMO he is likely Individual C in the Blago indictment (a former House Rep) and if that is true it spells trouble with a capital T for Obama.

rahm emmanuel is still a member of the house so far as i know.

when did he resign his seat?

GBBob 12-09-2008 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
IMO he is likely Individual C in the Blago indictment (a former House Rep) and if that is true it spells trouble with a capital T for Obama.


I just read that part of the indictment again. It seems almost impossible that a very highly placed member of the Obama campaign..a campaign that has painstakingly distanced itself from Blago at every opportunity, would, 16 days before the election be involved with trying to help him move funds around.

My money is that Individual C is Dan Rostenkowski or Dennis Hastert

dellinger63 12-09-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
rahm emmanuel is still a member of the house so far as i know.

when did he resign his seat?

He hasn't technically but announced the intention when he signed off w/Obama. US Atty Fitzgerald is a lot like Seinfeld he's good like that.

jwkniska 12-09-2008 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I just read that part of the indictment again. It seems almost impossible that a very highly placed member of the Obama campaign..a campaign that has painstakingly distanced itself from Blago at every opportunity, would, 16 days before the election be involved with trying to help him move funds around.

My money is that Individual C is Dan Rostenkowski or Dennis Hastert

I'd doubt it's a republican, especially Hastert. If I was Barack though, I'd be going thru the bunch from Chicago he's appointed again. He doesn't need any surprises to pop up.

dellinger63 12-09-2008 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I just read that part of the indictment again. It seems almost impossible that a very highly placed member of the Obama campaign..a campaign that has painstakingly distanced itself from Blago at every opportunity, would, 16 days before the election be involved with trying to help him move funds around.

My money is that Individual C is Dan Rostenkowski or Dennis Hastert


Rosty is a good pic and probably odds wise is ahead of Emanuel. I'm just partial to Rahm LOL.

GBBob 12-09-2008 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jwkniska
I'd doubt it's a republican, especially Hastert. If I was Barack though, I'd be going thru the bunch from Chicago he's appointed again. He doesn't need any surprises to pop up.

I was just running through likely candidates who were former House Reps..Probably not Hastert.

The news said that Senate Candidate #1 who Obama wanted appointed was Valerie Jarrett. She withdrew about the same time Blago was calling Obama a mother f*cker.

dellinger63 12-09-2008 06:42 PM

who's concrete contractor man? Plote or Polumbo?

Quiet Chris 12-10-2008 05:35 PM

The Obama Administration will be crippled by scandal by year 2. Numerous scandals, probably most of which Obama has no idea about.

You can't put these Chicago guys in power and expect anything else.

Texas and Illinois have more thugs than any states in the country. Maybe LA gives them a run.

dellinger63 12-11-2008 08:50 PM

Rahm ducks media He's a Trib guy I guess
 
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politic...121108.article

jwkniska 12-11-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63

he's in total c.y.a. mode and probably the one spilling everything to the feds, to aviod a jail term. anyone that clinton calls a double talking, back stabbing s.o.? is horrible, because he can double talk anyone.

dellinger63 12-12-2008 09:29 AM

New Jesse Jackson news today

Even though U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. says he has gotten a clean bill of health from federal prosecutors, sources tell the Chicago Sun-Times he's not yet in the clear.

But a source in Blagojevich's camp said Thursday that representatives of Jackson approached Blagojevich's brother Robert, who is the governor's campaign-finance chairman, about the open seat. Jackson has identified himself as the "Senate Candidate 5" listed in Blagojevich's criminal complaint.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/b...kson12.article

GBBob 12-12-2008 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
New Jesse Jackson news today

Even though U.S. Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. says he has gotten a clean bill of health from federal prosecutors, sources tell the Chicago Sun-Times he's not yet in the clear.

But a source in Blagojevich's camp said Thursday that representatives of Jackson approached Blagojevich's brother Robert, who is the governor's campaign-finance chairman, about the open seat. Jackson has identified himself as the "Senate Candidate 5" listed in Blagojevich's criminal complaint.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/b...kson12.article


Did you post this much about Bush, Cheney and Halliburton?

Coach Pants 12-12-2008 10:10 AM

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Did you post this much about Bush, Cheney and Halliburton?

Well then he must not post at all!

Censor this man immediately!! Move along now, nothing to see here!

Oh my god!! I just heard the word penis on the radio!! *calls fcc*

dellinger63 12-12-2008 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Did you post this much about Bush, Cheney and Halliburton?

When they sold a Senate Seat?

GBBob 12-12-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Well then he must not post at all!

Censor this man immediately!! Move along now, nothing to see here!

Oh my god!! I just heard the word penis on the radio!! *calls fcc*

not what I asked or implied

I didn't know you were Steve's defender

GBBob 12-12-2008 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
When they sold a Senate Seat?

you know what I mean..

dellinger63 12-12-2008 10:26 AM

This 'scandal, investigation etc.' is far more interesting to me simply because of the tapes. That and my favorite Rev potentially being involved. I just hope Blago doesn't plea and we get to hear them. If Bush was caught on tape discussing going to war to benefit Haliburton and Cheney I think I'd be equally interested.

GBBob 12-12-2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
This 'scandal, investigation etc.' is far more interesting to me simply because of the tapes. That and my favorite Rev potentially being involved. I just hope Blago doesn't plea and we get to hear them. If Bush was caught on tape discussing going to war to benefit Haliburton and Cheney I think I'd be equally interested.

I really think he won't plea, thinks he's innnocent and won't resign. Fully delusional..

dellinger63 12-12-2008 10:34 AM

He'd have to be. Fitz has his atty (the one on tape and paid for by the State) by the balls as he is complicit being involved in the three way deal for the seat. Now I guess he can claim atty client priveledge but he was paid by the people?

Coach Pants 12-12-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
not what I asked or implied

I didn't know you were Steve's defender

That's a bunch of horses.hit. You implied partisan hackery "b-b-but bush and halliburton!"

It has absolutely nothing to do about this scandal and everything to do with trying to censor a differing opinion.

Antitrust32 12-12-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Did you post this much about Bush, Cheney and Halliburton?

I'm sure Bush went to war just to benefit Cheney and Halliburton :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Lordy Lordy...

GBBob 12-12-2008 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
That's a bunch of horses.hit. You implied partisan hackery "b-b-but bush and halliburton!"

It has absolutely nothing to do about this scandal and everything to do with trying to censor a differing opinion.

No it's not. I'm not trying to censor anything. He and anyone can post all they want about this. It's incredible stuff. I just look at the zeal with which the right wing has to get this linked to Obama and question whether they put the same efforts into their own housekeeping, that's all.

GBBob 12-12-2008 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I'm sure Bush went to war just to benefit Cheney and Halliburton :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Lordy Lordy...


Not what I said or meant to imply. As above, as long as what's good for the goose, etc applies.

Actually...on an edit..he went to keep his promise to Daddy

Coach Pants 12-12-2008 10:52 AM

Both parties and their supporters need to cease and desist with the pointing fingers and deflection.

Americans need to realize that both parties are extremely corrupt and they are the reason why this country is on the verge of collapse. When you have a senate seat for sale for a million bucks it is basically an admittance that Washington is a place where kickbacks are king and honesty is nil.

dellinger63 12-12-2008 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Both parties and their supporters need to cease and desist with the pointing fingers and deflection.

Americans need to realize that both parties are extremely corrupt and they are the reason why this country is on the verge of collapse. When you have a senate seat for sale for a million bucks it is basically an admittance that Washington is a place where kickbacks are king and honesty is nil.


I couldn't agree more. But when looking for change look outside of Chicago, Cook County or even Illinois for that matter sans Patrick Fitzgerald.

GBBob 12-12-2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I couldn't agree more. But when looking for change look outside of Chicago, Cook County or even Illinois for that matter sans Patrick Fitzgerald.

Daley ( and others) wants/wanted Fitzgerald gone, but Bush won't move him.

If he isn't Attorney General some day, I'll be surprised.

miraja2 12-12-2008 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I couldn't agree more. But when looking for change look outside of Chicago, Cook County or even Illinois for that matter sans Patrick Fitzgerald.

I think this is overstating it a bit. Do we have more than our fair share of political corruption in this state? You bet. But there have been plenty of people that I think are pretty decent (at least by the standards of politicians) that have come out of Illinois politics in recent decades as well....from both parties. Jim Edgar (R), and Paul Simon (D) come to mind.

As for Blago, he was almost universally reviled here by members of both parties even BEFORE the latest scandal. His approval rating was at 13%. Leading Democrats in the state like Lisa Madigan and Jesse White had already publicly broken from him. The guy is a complete joke and everybody already knew it.
Blago will probably be going to prison. So did our last governor. That is pretty remarkable, but it doesn't automatically mean that every politician that comes out of Chicago should be tainted with their nonsense. There have been at least a few that don't do things that way.

dellinger63 12-12-2008 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Daley ( and others) wants/wanted Fitzgerald gone, but Bush won't move him.

If he isn't Attorney General some day, I'll be surprised.

There are retired Judges up here that want him moved. Lol

On another note Durbin urged Obama to keep him here. I think he's here until at least the end of the Blago thing. Meanwhile I'm sure he is drving by Daley's house and friends of Da Mayor. If this was bowling, Fitz is in the ninth frame with a perfect game going. Makes you wonder what the previous US Attys in Chicago were doing?

Antitrust32 12-12-2008 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Both parties and their supporters need to cease and desist with the pointing fingers and deflection.

Americans need to realize that both parties are extremely corrupt and they are the reason why this country is on the verge of collapse. When you have a senate seat for sale for a million bucks it is basically an admittance that Washington is a place where kickbacks are king and honesty is nil.


:tro: :tro: couldnt agree more.

Danzig 12-12-2008 11:42 AM

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081212/...s_governor_105

dellinger63 12-12-2008 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig

wow only in IL can you have an Atty Gen file charges against a Gov to have a Lt. Gov put in that will potentially nominate her to the Senate seat largely responsible for her fiing charges in the first place. Sounds more like the Saud family in Saudia Arabia.

Mike 12-12-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
I'm sure Bush went to war just to benefit Cheney and Halliburton :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Lordy Lordy...


Damn right, anti-trust!!!



Bush Jr. went to also settle a score for daddy!

Mike 12-12-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Both parties and their supporters need to cease and desist with the pointing fingers and deflection.

Americans need to realize that both parties are extremely corrupt and they are the reason why this country is on the verge of collapse. When you have a senate seat for sale for a million bucks it is basically an admittance that Washington is a place where kickbacks are king and honesty is nil.


And now I find common ground with Coachpants:zz:


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