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dellinger63 12-09-2008 09:03 AM

Should Obama be worried??
 
Defendants ROD BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS, together with
others, attempted to use ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s authority to appoint a United States Senator
for the purpose of obtaining personal benefits for ROD BLAGOJEVICH, including, among
other things, appointment as Secretary of Health & Human Services in the President-elect’s
administration, and alternatively, a lucrative job which they schemed to induce a union to
provide to ROD BLAGOJEVICH in exchange for appointing as senator an individual whom ROD BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS believed to be favored by union officials and
their associates.

GBBob 12-09-2008 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
Defendants ROD BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS, together with
others, attempted to use ROD BLAGOJEVICH’s authority to appoint a United States Senator
for the purpose of obtaining personal benefits for ROD BLAGOJEVICH, including, among
other things, appointment as Secretary of Health & Human Services in the President-elect’s
administration, and alternatively, a lucrative job which they schemed to induce a union to
provide to ROD BLAGOJEVICH in exchange for appointing as senator an individual whom ROD BLAGOJEVICH and JOHN HARRIS believed to be favored by union officials and
their associates.

Obama wouldn't touch Blago with a 10' pole...He knew this guy was bad news all along and distanced himself from him

AeWingnut 12-09-2008 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Obama wouldn't touch Blago with a 10' pole...He knew this guy was bad news all along and distanced himself from him


Obama and Blago have connections with Rezko

dellinger63 12-09-2008 10:13 AM

but unless it was Blago talking to himself, someone close to Obama if not him would know of the plan to name Gov. Moron to the cabinet.

I think Blago will be singing by this afternoon if not now about anyone and everyone....This U.S. Atty (Fitzgerald) is unbelievable. If he gets Daley he hits the pic 6. (The vast majority of the hierarchy of the Chicago Mob, Gov Ryan, Rezco, Frm Ald. Vrdolyak, Gov. Blago)

Antitrust32 12-09-2008 10:18 AM

I wonder if the Gov was really being considered for the Cabinet...

Scav 12-09-2008 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
but unless it was Blago talking to himself, someone close to Obama if not him would know of the plan to name Gov. Moron to the cabinet.

I think Blago will be singing by this afternoon if not now about anyone and everyone....This U.S. Atty (Fitzgerald) is unbelievable. If he gets Daley he hits the pic 6. (The vast majority of the hierarchy of the Chicago Mob, Gov Ryan, Rezco, Frm Ald. Vrdolyak, Gov. Blago)

Wonder if Daley is shaking right now

dellinger63 12-09-2008 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Wonder if Daley is shaking right now

I think a ton of people are worrying. Bet a lot of lawyers braved the weather to head into the loop today.

GBBob 12-09-2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut
Obama and Blago have connections with Rezko

That connection has been vetted pretty thoroughly the past 18 months. If there was truly more there than what is known, McCain and even Hilary would have been all over it

Scav 12-09-2008 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I think a ton of people are worrying. Bet a lot of lawyers braved the weather to head into the loop today.

why?

Antitrust32 12-09-2008 10:31 AM

so why did the Gov think he was getting a cabinet or ambassador position?

GBBob 12-09-2008 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
but unless it was Blago talking to himself, someone close to Obama if not him would know of the plan to name Gov. Moron to the cabinet.
I think Blago will be singing by this afternoon if not now about anyone and everyone....This U.S. Atty (Fitzgerald) is unbelievable. If he gets Daley he hits the pic 6. (The vast majority of the hierarchy of the Chicago Mob, Gov Ryan, Rezco, Frm Ald. Vrdolyak, Gov. Blago)


In that two hour call they taped, even Gov Moron admitted his chances of getting a Cabinet position were slim because of all the negative publicity around him.

And when they discuss Senate Candidate 1, who seems to be Obama's preference, Blago says that "he'll get nothing except Thanks for that appointment" and goes on to say "F*CK them"..them being Obama et al

GBBob 12-09-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32
so why did the Gov think he was getting a cabinet or ambassador position?

He is/was appointing the next Senataor to replace Obama...He was trying to identify what each of the 5 candidates could offer to benefit himself..A wide range of things from being appointed at a high salary to a board, to his wife being appointed, etc. He was speculating that if he selected Obama's Pick (Candiadate 1 in the indictment) maybe he could get a Cabinet Post. He then also said that all Obama would says is "Thanks" and said "F*ck them"..referring to Obama

Antitrust32 12-09-2008 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
In that two hour call they taped, even Gov Moron admitted his chances of getting a Cabinet position were slim because of all the negative publicity around him.

And when they discuss Senate Candidate 1, who seems to be Obama's preference, Blago says that "he'll get nothing except Thanks for that appointment" and goes on to say "F*CK them"..them being Obama et al

well thats is good... i'd hate to see the Prez Elect be drug through something like this when we have enough bad things going on in this country. And I really do mean that.

dellinger63 12-09-2008 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
why?

Bet Daley wants to meet with his atty as well as Blago's wife, Candidates 1 thru 5 Contractors 1-4 and fundraisers named thru out.

Scav 12-09-2008 10:43 AM

What I would like to know is what the feds had on this guy that wore a wire and flipped on Blago...

GBBob 12-09-2008 10:46 AM

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What I would like to know is what the feds had on this guy that wore a wire and flipped on Blago...


The most damning stuff is from the wiretaps they had on his home and campaign offices

GBBob 12-09-2008 10:58 AM

Live news conference
http://www.nbcchicago.com/live/?aid=...9&vid=30914249

GBBob 12-09-2008 11:16 AM

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oh man....The second example that Fitzgerald brings up is the horse racing bill.

Scav 12-09-2008 11:16 AM

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This is HARDCORE.

I don't like how the guy MENTIONED horse racing specifically though, another cloud.....

GBBob 12-09-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav
This is HARDCORE.

I don't like how the guy MENTIONED horse racing specifically though, another cloud.....

It's VERY bad...

onebadbeast 12-09-2008 11:20 AM

i knew this state was rotten to the core when i got here 3 years ago. i hope to soon wake up and be out of this nightmare and back to cali.:wf

GBBob 12-09-2008 11:26 AM

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i knew this state was rotten to the core when i got here 3 years ago. i hope to soon wake up and be out of this nightmare and back to cali.:wf

The FBI Agent said "Although I won't call Illinois the most corrupt State in the Union, it is certainly a competitor"

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-09-2008 11:28 AM

HOME SWEET HOME!!.and yes he should be worried obama ..they taped alot of stuff including his home..dirt will be out..

dellinger63 12-09-2008 11:30 AM

well Individual C (a former House member) should definately lawyer up or take off to some island...

GBBob 12-09-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
This is HARDCORE.

I don't like how the guy MENTIONED horse racing specifically though, another cloud.....

More on the horse racing angle...Damn law survives two appeals to the IL Supreme Court, finally ready to get some purse increases to the tracks and now this:

Also, Fitzgerald said, it was expected that Blagojevich would soon sign into law a bill that would direct a percentage of casino revenue to the horse racing industry -- a bill supported by someone who contributed $100,000.

"To let that bill be signed, to me, would be very, very troubling," Fitzgerald said.

Mike 12-09-2008 02:20 PM

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/1..._n_149608.html

Here's a fairly concise article on the situation(from the liberal Huffington Post).
The article says in the affadavitt Blago calls Obama a "motherf;) cker"
Says Rahm Emannuel blew the whistle on Blago

dellinger63 12-09-2008 02:35 PM

I have not heard that locally.

IMO This all stems from the Stuart Levine and Rezko trial. Someone from that trial is talking, a Grand Jury was called and wire taps approved on the Gov. He then buried himself in 30 days. Rahm is much more likely to be Ind C than the whistle blower but I can see why Huffington et al hopes it is.

Cannon Shell 12-09-2008 02:39 PM

I cant believe the party of the people has such corrupt people in it.

dellinger63 12-09-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I cant believe the party of the people has such corrupt people in it.

But our trains run on-time.

GBBob 12-09-2008 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
I have not heard that locally.

IMO This all stems from the Stuart Levine and Rezko trial. Someone from that trial is talking, a Grand Jury was called and wire taps approved on the Gov. He then buried himself in 30 days. Rahm is much more likely to be Ind C than the whistle blower but I can see why Huffington et al hopes it is.

I don't know Steve...I think you are reaching trying to connect the two as the reason this went down. They have been after Blago for a long time

AeWingnut 12-09-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
That connection has been vetted pretty thoroughly the past 18 months. If there was truly more there than what is known, McCain and even Hilary would have been all over it


I don't know how Rezko can be dirty, Hot Rod be dirty and Obama accepting money from Rezko not be.

like Hillary, McCain is a dem.(that actually supports the US)


o-well Obama was smart enough not to offer fn Blogo anything in a straight forward fn way

AeWingnut 12-09-2008 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63
But our trains run on-time.


that is a myth
the trains never ran on-time.

hi_im_god 12-09-2008 03:37 PM

this is getting pace advantage good.

if we have this much foaming at the mouth before he's even in office i can't imagine how good it's going to get when he's actually done something.

ArlJim78 12-09-2008 03:38 PM

banner day for Illinois! working hard to earn that title of most corrupt state.
how many states can say their govenor went on a crime spree?

gotta wonder how much dirt Blago might have on others. ya gotta believe he'll be doing whatever he can to minimize the damage.

take a look at the indictment, holy cow! what a moron this guy is.

GBBob 12-09-2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
banner day for Illinois! working hard to earn that title of most corrupt state.
how many states can say their govenor went on a crime spree?

gotta wonder how much dirt Blago might have on others. ya gotta believe he'll be doing whatever he can to minimize the damage.

take a look at the indictment, holy cow! what a moron this guy is.


They didn't even bother/need a Grand Jury indictment...just proceeded straight to the criminal charges. That shows how solid a case they think they have. And you know Fitzgerald hasn't played all his cards yet.

It is mind boggling how stupid he is though

hoovesupsideyourhead 12-09-2008 03:44 PM

hes gonna roll and give up alot of stuff..many a bone in the closets of high ranking people are going to come out..

ArlJim78 12-09-2008 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
They didn't even bother/need a Grand Jury indictment...just proceeded straight to the criminal charges. That shows how solid a case they think they have. And you know Fitzgerald hasn't played all his cards yet.

It is mind boggling how stupid he is though

the last guy you want gunning for you is Fitzgerald.

dellinger63 12-09-2008 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
I don't know Steve...I think you are reaching trying to connect the two as the reason this went down. They have been after Blago for a long time

IMO something is up w/this senate seat tho and that's why Bull Dog Fitz announced it now.

hi_im_god 12-09-2008 07:42 PM

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IMO something is up w/this senate seat tho and that's why Bull Dog Fitz announced it now.

right. but i don't think obama could ask for anything more exculpatory than being cursed out by a corrupt politician because nothing is being offered to fill the seat with the candidate obama wants.

and you're wildly off base with the idea emmanual could be involved as anything but a whistleblower. he's not a former member of the house. he's a current member.

i think people wanting to see something bad in this for obama are going to see as much success as they got with socialist and palling around with terrorists. it's just not there.

dellinger63 12-09-2008 07:49 PM

The terrorist would kick Blago out after a week


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