11/28 (AQU): Demoiselle/Remsen (Gr. II); Hill 'n' Dale Cigar (Gr. I)
 

6th (2:49) Demoiselle S. (G2)
1 1/8 Miles | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Stormy's Smile Lezcano J 119 L
2 Ain't Love Grand Velasquez C 115 L
3 Boleyn Coa E M 115 L
4 Springside Gomez G K 119 L
5 Sky Diva Dominguez R A 121 L
6 Bluegrass Princess Garcia Alan 115 L



7th (3:19) Remsen S. (G2)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $200,000

1 Atomic Rain Prado E S 116 L
2 Idol Maker Coa E M 116 L
3 Jazzandthemagician Flores D R 116 L
4 Rip Rap Lezcano J 116 L
5 Hold Me Back Velazquez J R 116 L
6 Old Fashioned Dominguez R A 116 L
7 American Dance Gomez G K 116 Blk-On L
8 Awesome Mich Castro E 116 L



8th (3:48) Hill 'n' Dale Cigar Mile H. (G1)

1 Mile | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Visionaire Garcia Alan 116 L
2 Arson Squad Gomez G K 119 L
3 Harlem Rocker Coa E M 115 L
4 Bribon (FR) Maragh R 114 L
5 Tale of Ekati Prado E S 116 L
6 Monterey Jazz Flores D R 118 L
7 Storm Play Velasquez C 114
8 Wanderin Boy Velazquez J R 118 L
9 Kodiak Kowboy Dominguez R A 116 L

Demoiselle PP's
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...her_132392.pdf

Remsen PP's
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdf...her_132393.pdf

Hill 'n' Dale Cigar PP's
http://www.brisnet.com/bris_link/pdfs/vinery_132403.pdf

As of Wednesday, both Viscount and Hello Broadway were probable for the Remsen. Anyone know why they didn't enter?

Hello Broadway got sick.

Is Bribon good enough?? Looks like he will sit a great trip. (as will a few others)

I guess I will pay to find out.

In the Remsen I'll box Old Fashioned with American Dance

Take Strom Play in the Cigar Mile

Pick 3 (beginning with the Demoiselle): Sky Diva/ Old Fashioned - American Dance/Storm Play

Mike, please don't bet Storm Play. He may be the least likely winner on the entire card.

Save the winner of the 5th race. Every horse in that race is the least likeliest winner on the card. What an awful bunch that is.

I like the 5th tomorrow.

Really?? I would try and pry out of you who you like...but I know it would be to no avail.;)

Well, I'm glad you didn't say Storm Play had no shot at all, as I pre-bet early before reading Derby Trail

By the way, Andy, everytime you've told me to throw out a horse you've been right(I've been around under a different name on the web); you're due to be wrong just once

Got my Pick 3 wrapped up with Storm Play as a single, also

My horse in the 5th was Smarteralex......he may have gotten one of the most comedically bad rides in history.

Springside
 

This really, really ticks me off about the sport - the blatent pretending and ignoring that something happened to Springside after the wire (I'm watching the track feed at home)

How about at least a little, "splinted and taken off in the ambulance"? If she's being euthanized on track, how about "being attended to on track" or at least some other euphanism?

Completely ignoring it happened - especially in a stakes race - doesn't cut it in this day and age.

Anybody there know what happened to her?

Andy - you guys should have said something prior to the next race.

Whoa on Old Fashioned.....Monster

Yeah, wow - very nice indeed!

(but I'll still watch for more Pletchers' slow-maturing babies, and the Smart Strike colt - it's early yet)

Any news on the filly?

I also was listening for an update....but have heard nothing so far

Didn't look catastrophic, fortunately - but a little acknowledgement and show of concern would go far to making the public think that this sport gives a damn about the horses' welfare.

I was going to say the same thing but didn't want to get involved.

How does Andy have anything to do with this, and he is smart enough not to say anything about it, anyone watching the live feed saw what happened......This aint General Hospital

She has an injury to her right front pastern and they are taking X-rays.

Yes, that is why we waited until we had more information.

When you have more info on the one in the Cigar Mile, let us know. That one didn't look good.

Thanks - anything on Wanderin Boy

If there is a mass murderer in the Florida area, I probably know who it is......

Thank you VERY much, Andy.

It's obviously not the house handicapping show's place to be the first to make such announcements, but hey, we just ran a great stakes race where the overwhelming fav was defeated, and the victor is hurt. Let's not pretend it didn't happen.

It's the track announcers place to inform the public, obviously. "To update on the outcome of the sixth race, the winner Springside went lame after the wire, Gomez jumped off her, she's being attended to ... "

Obviously nobody needs to speculate on outcome, nor does an owner need a mic shoved in their face. Just say briefly, after the horse is off the track, what happened and what's happening now to care for the horse.

The public face of failing to acknowledge that it even happened, to ignore there isn't a trophy presentation, is ridiculous and insulting to the horse and the connections.

NYRA gets a failing grade today in PR and concern for the horse on that one.

Edit: And Barclay Tagg finally gets a break!

Steve.....
 

Thanks for the P3, and best of luck with the P4!
That was a great race, have my fingers crossed for Wanderin Boy.

Was it Wanderin Boy or Visionaire that got hurt? Andy, any info is appreciated.

On a side note, pmac and I are live to the 3,5,8 in the pk4, we need this one!

It was Wanderin Boy and I was told he was put down. The Filly seems like she can be saved. Very sad.

It is sad . Wanderin Boy's sire, Seeking The Gold, from the same family as Reviewer, sire of Ruffian, has a very bad reputation for producing unsound horses . Thankfully he has finally been retired .

I missed the race, just got home and came here first. No idea who won yet.

I really hope you're wrong, Handicappy. Respectfully...

Prayers are with Wanderin Boy and his connections.

I just hope you're wrong.

What he deserved was this win and not to have it end this way. Poor guy.

edit _ Jesus, no mention...
http://news.bloodhorse.com//viewstory.asp?id=48243

edit - Damn.
http://www.drf.com/news/article/100256.html

I am really sorry to hear that, that is a real shame regarding Wanderin Boy. Any word on whether JV is ok?

Hoss, I think we (the sport) just need to publically show a little common humanity about bad crap when it happens.

Most stuff on the track isn't catastrophic, the horses and jocks are cared for and get off the track alive and under their own power. The public should know this.

No drama. The announcer simply needs to acknowledge what happened; say they are being attended to, the horse is being taken off the track in the ambulance, the jock is walking off, etc.

Leaving the TV public's last view of something potentially "awful" - a horse being pulled up, or even worse going down - to hang there with zero subsequent comment, like it didn't even happen, is appallingly disrespectful in my view.

I know most certainly do care alot more about Wandering Boy and Springside than our pick 4 payout (edit: Point, that was not directed at you!, it was a general comment)

Yeah for Larry and Rick.

I hope the horse stays sound and makes it to the Derby :)

Wanderin Boy was euthanized per Bloodhorse. He had a previous sesamoid injury at 1 month. Not sure if it's the same one.

http://news.bloodhorse.com//viewstory.asp?id=48243 (updated)




http://cs.bloodhorse.com/blogs/horse...in-wonder.aspx

Racing is a great, but at times brutal, game. Nobody wants to see any horses get injured, but it happens, though today was extra tough.

Seeing Wanderin Boy go down like that is about as tough as it gets in racing.

Riot
 

You are entitled to your opinions but you are seriously misguided. Information can only be given that is entirely accurate and we were not able to do that. Yes, we could have given the information about the filly, but not until after the Mile, and it seemed inappropriate to do so without any news on Wanderin Boy at that time. We agonized over the decision but felt we made the correct one.

We do the very best job we can relaying information. This information comes through the press office....as I'm guessing it does at every racetrack.

And it's not like you guys are Dr. Larry Bramlage who is in direct contact with the state vets at the time on injury. Even then the vets at the scene are only assuming the nature of the injury. Untill xrays are taken and evaluated should there be an announcement by on air broadcasters.

I understand why announcers can't give any information at all about the status of a horse, but why can't they report on what we are all seeing on TV? I was watching the race on HRTV, and you could see during the running of the race that something had happened to Wanderin Boy and that he didn't finish, and then when they showed the replay you could see that the jock had jumped off of him. Why couldn't Jon or Millie acknowledge what was just shown on their broadcast?

BTW - Oh, please. Nobody is asking for unconfirmed details or speculation. Re-read what I wrote.

The last we saw and heard about the filly was (if one was still watching) the camera following her past the line and seeing the jock start to pull her up, and she looked like she was limping. Then the camera cuts out.

She just won a stakes race. What is happening?

Nothing. Silence. Then the order of finish, posting of payoffs, on to the next race, who do you like, baby?

That's ridiculous.

Absolutely Durkin should have come on immediately and said something simple like, "The winner of the race, Springside, was pulled up by Gomez after the wire, she is being loaded into the ambulance and Gomez appears fine. There will be no official winners circle presentation"

Everybody saw in the stretch run of the Mile that Wandering Boy was being pulled up and he was moving badly. What followed?

Nothing. Silence.

Yes, after that race Durkin should have immediately come on and after reading the order of finish, should have mentioned that Wandering Boy had been pulled up in the stretch run and is being attended to on track by the track vet (if that was the case. Or loaded into the ambulance, etc. And if the jock walked off or not)

Nobody has to give lots of details or speculate on the nature or prognosis of the injury. Leave that to the later press to ferret out.

At least acknowledge what we all just saw a glimpse of, and instead of leaving the audience wondering what the hell just happened and worrying about it, give us a hint of what is happening now, instead of being silent and pretending it didn't just happen.