(11/29) FG Mambo in Seattle Returns!
 

9th Fair Grounds
Tenacious H.

1 1/16 Miles | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $60,000

1 Real Dandy Hernandez B J Jr 115 L
2 Stonehouse Compton P 114 L
3 Mambo in Seattle Lanerie C J 120 L
4 Rector Campbell J M 113 L
5 Coragil Cat Jacinto J 116 L
6 Stones River Saez G 115 L
7 Good and Lucky Valenzuela P A 114 L
8 Tend Zimmerman R 114 L
9 Secret Getaway Graham J 116 L

A-Coupled: Rector and Coragil Cat

Yes!!!

Surprised that Farish let Neil Howard chicken out of the Clark.
I guess he dont have a lot of confidence in his private trainer since he has won all of 11 races from 144 runners. ( 3 by Mambo in Seattle).

Im fairly confident if I had Will Farishs' horses I could win at better than an 8% clip.

Wouldn't running Mambo In Seattle, a horse who has yet to win a graded stakes, in a race like the Clark (versus top class Commentator) be the type of move that would cause Howard to hit at 8%?

Maybe you'd be a better fit taking over the Paraneck operation.

Mambo in Seattle ran a month ago, for what it's worth, at Keeneland. He's hardly " returning. "

He's in real tough.:rolleyes:

Let's all get excited.

How quickly will a Mambo victory in the Tenacious vault him to the top of the 2009 handicap division?

Wow- that's what we're looking at next year.

NT

Mambo in Seattle sooooooooo reminds me of Grasshopper it's not even funny.

Those two in a race together would be pretty cool, kinda like watching a pg1985 vs da hoss handicapping contest.

Kinda touchy, no? What made you think I was denigrating your capping skills?

As for him beating me, that's doubtful, and if I had a $3 lead going into the last day, I wouldn't squat like you did. Unless it was for a big cash prize instead of pride.

Now that I think about it, I think we should have some sort of round robin contest on here. Every week, PG1985 gets to face off against someone different. You, me, Pants, Raggedy Ann, Andy, etc.

Of course he has a bad opinion....he's friendly with DrugS.

Wow. Mambo in Seattle.

It's akin to going to the Sports forum and finding a thread titled

(11/3) Detroit: Dante Culpepper returns to the NFL!

Not touchy? UH, yeah.

Actually, I wasn't taking a shot at your capping skills initially. I was making commentary on how lame the contest was between you and Joseph.

Clearly you are being touchy, as evidenced by your PM to me.

The only part you have right is about my opinion. The rare times I have posted my opinion on here, the results have been pretty poor. These things happen.

And yeah, I did watch Ventura beat Indian Blessing!! That was a great call on your part man! As much as you keep liking to remind me about that, I sure hope you cashed large on that race. After all, it's not often you see a second or third betting choice win a race.

So a couple of inches the other way and he's a Travers winner and fits in the Clark but since those inches didn't go his way, he'd be overmatched in the race?

Well shouldnt the horse that loses the worst head-bob ever in the G1 Travers, supposed to be running in the Clark.
If a horse loses a photo in the Travers, the highlight of his fall campaign shouldnt be a 60k overnight at the FG.

I would school those guys at Paraneck also....And so would anyone with a brain and the ability to hire a good vet.

Basically

you kind of have to hope he wins this in a visually impressive fashion. He's one of those horses you can toss as a 2nd choice or even a favorite in a good stakes race eventually.

Albarado did a bit of race riding against Mambo in the Gold Cup. As Mambo's regular rider, I assume that he thought he was a legit rival when he rode Curlin such as to keep Mambo down inside that day. Mambo fell back but the inside was not really the place to be and Robby made him stay there.

Mambo was obviously not the same horse on the Poly at Keeneland. I think he might deserve a shot in the Clark but Howard generally uses the FG stakes program. Mineshaft and Student Council went this route as did Grasshopper last year (not that he proved to be that good....) Maybe he feels that a confidence booster is better for the horse right now than a potentially tough race.

Did you see the Jockey Club Gold Cup or the Ben Ali? How many inches did he need to win those?

Note the Travers is a age-restricted race, too. Are 3yos beating top class older horses like Commentator right and left?

No but they did beat up on Curlin in the BC.

So are you saying that the Travers was a fluke? Or was it real and perhaps the off track in the JCGC or the synthetic of the Ben Ali weren't to his liking? Either way, the point is that if the nose had gone his way in the Travers, I don't think anyone would be suggesting that the Clark was an unrealistic spot for him but since it didn't go his way, it seems that you are suggesting that this is not the kind of race he could win. I suppose that the question I should ask you is if you would think he'd be overmatched here even if he had won the Travers?

Does this person look like DrugS and wear a funny looking hat?

Yeah, foreign three year olds beat Curlin on what is basically turf...nice comparison.

The question was simply do I see 3yo's beating top class older horses? There were no conditions put on the question so I answered what was asked of me. I could have gone further and mentioned Conduit and Goldikova also but I didn't.

You should be careful about what you say publicly. There are alot of other jews on this board besides myself and DrugS.

KG, I normally enjoy your contrarian nature, but those last two posts of yours are truly LAME. PG1985, Roller Doc and Burch rolled up into one sort of lame.

Never mind that Curlin finished ahead of Colonel John in the BC, the very same horse that nostrilized Mambo In Seattle at Saratoga.

The Travers has proven to be a pretty unproductive race, with its two next out winners (Court Vision and Tale Of Ekati) arguably poorly spotted in the Travers in the first place, with the former seeming to prefer turf and the latter favoring one-turn. Note losses by Pyro, Harlem Rocker, Macho Again, Cool Coal Man, D'Tara, and Tres Barrachos (not forgetting Mambo In Seattle's embarrassing efforts) also out of that race.

Whether or not he is a Travers winner (do you hold Belmont winner D'Tara in high regard as well?) he is completely overmatched against the likes of Commentator.

Are you suggesting that Lions are still NFL team? Titans should cover OVER by the end of the first half!

And, yes, Mambo in Seattle has created interest in ungraded $60,000 handicap this weekend. Imagine that!

I don't disagree that he's overmatched by Commentator. I don't think he's overmatched by the rest of the field though.